Everton Banter Archive November 05 2013

05 Nov 2013 19:06:48
A few posts saying Mirallas should be dropped/rested. I think I tend to agree. He is always quite poor defensively, but worth it when his forward play is good. Lately his forward play has deteriorated, so in my view he needs a rest. Barkley looked sharp when he came on as sub. There is room for Barkley and Osman at Mirallas' expense.
Degsypulford

05 Nov 2013 16:31:58
Quite frankly I am a bit ashamed about how we as fans have reacted, and reacted at the game on Sunday. Look Goodison and Evertonians are probably the best in the world at getting after a ref but on Sunday it was a bit peculiar and also it was a bit embarrassing that it seems to be the only reason 80% of fans seem to think we didn't win.
Look the Lukaku booking was a disgrace, I believe he missed the Soldado elbow and I don't understand why retrospective punishment is not being taken. However both penalty shouts for both teams were not penalties. He did not go over board with bookings, and he certainly did not give more or less free kicks to either team.
We have been and are on a good run of form. We didn't show up first half against Spurs, and Spurs did not punish us. It was the battle to get 2nd place and all both teams did was show that neither is ready to be in that position in the league.
Ross does need a rest, I would take him out of the equation all together for 2 weeks. He is the key man for us this season. But the season could be with a nice cup run 50 odd games. He can't play that many especially when he his world would have been turned upside down with the England call up. This is a young lad with enormous ability who through bad luck and now hard work has played very little football for a lad his age. Think of him as a 16 year old not a 19 year old. Keep him hungry, keep him fresh and keep him driven, you don't want him jaded for the derby, or for April and May when we may really need him.

Martinez has done fantastic. This is a brilliant start to a new regime, we as fans should be proud of where we are, what we are doing and where it could go. don't however blame a fairly average ref performance for what was a poor 1st half performance from us.

Svenny

Stop trying to act like the bigger man Svenny. Every time I seem to read anything that you have written I find it Patronising
Plus even if we won the cup we would not play 50 odd games.

05 Nov 2013 18:50:22
agree with micky, so he didn't do a bad job and we are overreacting were we 'just imagining it', he was atrocious and is a huge reason we didn't win, if ours was a pen then so was theirs well that should be the rule every game then, yenno just to keep it fair, he was poor, we were crap first half, i'm sure teams have played crap first half before and gone on to win before at some point in history, just face it the ref was poor

Mike-Ox Long

I think that is a pretty good post overall. I don't agree 100% with all the points, but most of it seems pretty accurate to me. Keep posting Svenny.
Degsypulford

At the end of the day they train most days so they should be super fit and they get outrageous wages so they should play how many games they are told. My boss in work wouldn't say you looked tired have a rest and I'll pay you no chance it's a job at the end of the day so they should be ready whenever.

Wasy

Sorry you had to edit that boys.

The bottom line for me is that we were poor first half. But good second half. Whereas Kevin Friend was poor in both halves.
Seven mate, it's all about opinions.

This is a banter page for the one thing we all have in common. Our love for the mighty blues

Toffee ace {Ed025's Note - very true ace..

I'm not saying the ref was good. I'm saying we did not win because we did not do enough to win. Very happy with the team and club at the moment but we did not shower ourselves in glory against spurs.

Seriously me patronising? Look up the definition mike and re read your response.

Svenny

The ref set a very poor standard with the booking of Howard and then sustained that standard for the rest of the game.
He failed to manage the situation with the knocked out keeper to the point he endangered the keeper's life. The health and safety of players is ultimately the responsibility of the referee.

06 Nov 2013 01:27:50
i didn't call you patronising once, learn the difference between 2 posts and re read your response, then we'll talk

Mike-Ox Long

Im sure that person of a ref has said in the past he hates refereeing Everton if you look at it he booked howard and Kev M for descent (arguing with the linesmen) yet when any of there players did the same he did nowt how did he miss the challenges on coleman and jags there pen could of gone either way but ours was stone cold if that was the redrubbish at the kop or utd at the srtetford end he would of pointed at the spot straight away

05 Nov 2013 10:46:21
How times have changed. Mirrallas got a yellow card at the weekend for arguing with the linesman.
In 88/89 we played West Brom in the FA cup at their place (trying to be topical here) and Trevor Steven was brought down in the box right in front of the travelling Blues. The linesman flagged for the offence but the ref waved play on.
Que Kevin Sheedy who went over to the ref and physically dragged him over to the linesman. Penalty given, put home by Trevor Steven and on we went to the next round.
I know it's a long time ago but the rules haven't changed that much; or were we just able to get away with more because we were on of the big 4 at that time?
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