Everton Banter Archive August 05 2015

05 Aug 2015 22:28:31
Lowest spenders in the entire premier league 3 days before kickoff. Different manager same old rubbish.

05 Aug 2015 18:42:55
Controversial this .
But, looking at last Season, how come no one has questioned our so called picks itself defence. At the end of the day we ended up bottom half of the League with, Howard, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka n Stones. Perhaps we've been not wanting to admit it, but are they up to it, maybe Stones going might be a good thing as we have a leaky defence!! Goalie needs, changing, Baines has never been a good defender, Coleman has gone off the boil, Jags has been doing too much in defence, maybe because of the full backs, Stones imperious but strikers do get in front of him at time on the ball across the box??!!!

05 Aug 2015 20:42:13
This is a joke post right? It's a good thing that the future captain of England could be leaving us? We ended up bottom half because of our defenders. the same ones that for the last few seasons have been our backbone? I suppose I will be called negative again, but really. this is all down to the manager. The signings he has made that do not score goals and the tactics that do not suit the players we have. By suggesting we get rid of players without having better ones lined up suggests to me that this would be a crazy thing to do. especially week before kick off. How can any new signing bed in? Crazy post.

05 Aug 2015 20:48:45
I thought when the 4 defenders played together we where pretty solid we leaked more goals when we had injuries and one or more were missing

05 Aug 2015 21:55:49
I believe the defence has little to no confidence in the man between the sticks as he does not control his penalty area at all. Sorry howie but yes the defence does pick itself or would you rather have hibbert than coleman? Would you play Browning with little to no premier league experience instead of jags/stones so in saying the defence doesn't pick itself at least come up with an alternative to the usual defence of baines stones jags and Coleman.

05 Aug 2015 22:50:10
Well I said it was controversial, hahahaha good answers one n all, ya exciteable lot. Its the midfield we struggle, none of them no what theyere supposed to do. Barkley scratches his head n runs wherever he thinks is right, Ossie poor lad is thrown on the left wing so no protection for the left back. Barry knows what he should be doing but his legs have gone, McCarthy has his mind on other things, runs n tackles everything, passes sideways n backwards. McGeady, less said the better, Pienaar got brittle bones, Gibson emergency ward ten, Mirallas wants to play on his own or with another team, Naismith god bless him gives all for the cause but can't pass a ball,there again Bobby thinks midfield is ok, doesn't he? Ohhh yes because he's bought Cleverley!

06 Aug 2015 06:37:44
Now I agree with you on that howie the midfield us a conundrum. My take on it would be to lose the 2 holding players and play just 1 in a flat 4. Mirrallas on the left, deuolefeu right with Mccarthy and cleverly in the middle. Put Barkley behind lukaku for say 5 games and give hom a free roll see how he goes.

05 Aug 2015 14:18:58
Why are we not trying to snap Jordan Rhodes up, I've said for weeks this guy will do great at Everton, heartbreakng to think a club like Boro will end up with him, even one of those cardboard cutouts of a police officer in a shop, has got to be a better option than Kone.

What do you think Ed as regards to Rhodes as a striker.

{Ed025's Note - i like him bri, but at an asking price of £13m is he really worth the risk of him not performing at the highest level?..im not sure mate..

05 Aug 2015 16:56:17
If you put Anichebe and Kones price together not far off 13 million, yes I Ithink its worth a punt, the lad has quality,

Sometimes you have to take a chance, unlike Austin, he's not injury prone.

How about £8 million and Kone part exchange.

{Ed025's Note - now that i would vote for bri..

05 Aug 2015 17:53:03
How about 13m but they have to take Kone to.

{Ed025's Note - they will want £15m if they have to take kone woburn.. :)

05 Aug 2015 22:48:00
17 million if they take kone and McGeady

{Ed003's Note - The Venkys are very stubborn in their dealings, my hunch is they will sell as a substantial amount of income ( around £6m plus) will take them out of the championship embargo but saying that selling Hanley and Marshall might raise that revenue,anyway they are difficult to deal with apparently and have vowed to finance the club even if the bank won't,personally I think £10m is a fair value in this ridiculous new market.}

05 Aug 2015 16:04:32
just want to make a point.

we have on paper a great back 4 baines one of best in Europe coleman best right back in prem jags England international the best young defender in world football yet we are crap at the back no protection from barry or james mac who is one of the best in the prem 2 many crap wingers a 50/50 world class player in barkley and a lazy but some times world class center forward the rest are just to abysmal to talk about. I for one would sell stones and bring in 4 good players as the club is in need of a makeover and fast or we are on the way down and we will end up going bust.

05 Aug 2015 16:20:03
We must not sell stones. For the upcoming season in particular he is one of only 2 first team centre backs. If we sell him we are going to have at least one player in the starting 11who is not settled in that could cause even more problems for us. Also he is still only young and has much to improve, his value is only going to go up so I hope he stays for at least another year!

{Ed025's Note - im with you clarkey mate..

05 Aug 2015 16:49:03
To state that players like Peanut, Oviedo, Besic and the like are abysmal is nothing short of insulting to our club.

A sense of perspective please?!?

{Ed025's Note - well said ace..

05 Aug 2015 15:31:59
john terrys comment;kurt zouma and john stones to replace me next year or two.does he know something?

05 Aug 2015 16:54:11
His comments were simply disrespectful to us. but then it's John terry. What do you expect.

{Ed025's Note - exactly that ace, very good footballer, but one despicable human being imo mate..

05 Aug 2015 11:47:59
For some reason Chelsea hold all the aces, can any one remember the lescot business, if we have say 15 million to spend on x y z, I say sell stones now and make x y z 45 million players and move on,

05 Aug 2015 11:12:19
The measure of our transfer activity is have the new recruits improved the squad.
Deulefeo I would say yes
Cleverly I would say no at this point in time
Henen then no
So we really need to do some good business over the next couple of weeks especially with the injuries we currently have!

05 Aug 2015 12:27:40
agree we need players but I think Cleverely has improved the squad, very tidy player in my opinion with the eye for a forward pass in behind, gets forward in scoring positions and I've been really impressed with his link play with Baines.

I think he'll pleasantly surprise a lot of fans.

05 Aug 2015 16:14:10
Cleverly has done a decent job since arriving, I certainly think he has improved the squad.

05 Aug 2015 09:33:44
Tedster, the red kit is Fleetwood Town,
that's why I'm the goalie in that lovely turquois strip, nice eh?

05 Aug 2015 08:33:54
McCarthy and Barry - good, but really the problem.

Bobby seems to be wedded to these two. IMO we will not progress until both are dispatched. Why? Barry has been an excellent player but is simply a liability because he is too slow. Good teams know how to pull him around and get in behind him. McCarthy has energy but no vision. He doesn't look for the ball enough and when he does there is such a predictability in his first touch and vision that the opposition can take there time to regroup.
Together they are a nightmare and the reason why Martinez will ultimately fail is that my guess is that hasn't the stomach to give under performing players complete honesty. Show Mcarthy where hi under performing and if he fails to respond, drop him. The pair of them think they are bomb proof - I for one would sell Mcarthy ASAP and reinvest in a decent no 10 and another CF.

05 Aug 2015 10:53:55
get rid of barry,we got some good youngsters in besic and ledson

05 Aug 2015 11:40:52
I think you've made a valid point there Nick.
Barry far 2 slow like a headless chicken @ times being run ragged week in week out,Mcarthy similar to cleverley passes side to side no vision to see a pass higher up the pitch & put a team mate clean through on goal.
They ain't got that in their locker building pattern of play from defence through midfield is far 2 slow & 1 dimensional.
Thought Barkley could drive @ the heart of a defence bombing fwd @ pace but only seen it in flashes.
Oh wot we'd give for a Gerrard or lampard eh.
Maybe Martinez needs to address the midfield problem & if their not performing then drop em give one of the youngsters a go.
1 goal between Mcarthy & Barry so there lies the problem.

05 Aug 2015 12:24:33
I actually think that Cleverley has more instinct to progress the game when he receives the ball rather than Mcarthy. He is certainly better than Mcarthy in my view and a great bit of business being on a free. Logically however, they are pretty similar in style so just offload Mcarthy for £18 mill plus and use the funds for some energetic and creative no 10 or 10s.

05 Aug 2015 02:39:36
I am not advocating this, but how long will it be before Bill Kenwright, is in the same position as the Newcastle owner, and only able to attend home games with a team of minders / bodyguardes. The "saviour" of everton, is fast becoming the dead weight around our neck, and more and more people are comeing to that conclution. Bill did, I'am sure, started off with the best of intentions, but just like the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and unless he is realy willing to sell the club ( quickly) then our club is heading down that road.

{Ed025's Note - i can see what you are saying JCW and it almost happened a couple of years ago when the blue union were at its most vocal, im a big defender of BK as i think others within the club could do a lot more but maybe a lot will get their wish anyway as bills health seems to be an issue lately mate..

05 Aug 2015 07:18:47
I am a big defender of BK as well. Everton is stable and with the TV money coming the club will only get stronger we wouldn't want Everton sliding down the league like wolves. Or we wouldn't want a owner like Cardiff or Leeds. So I think we should in a strange way thank BK for keeping the club stable. I truly believe we will sign someone good by the end of the window. Don't stress everyone. I'm sure it will be ok. I know it's frustrating as I have said time and time again where is the money going.

05 Aug 2015 10:43:49
I think some fans are becoming inpatient and yes it would be nice to have some other buys in place before the season starts but that will never happen. I too am a defender of BK and his health is a real concern however I think over the last 4/5 years he has provided the cash to buy significant players and yes he has been good at selling players who have wanted to move on eg Arteta, Fellaini, Lescott and even Rooney [whose sale saved the club from going into administration].
Just have patience I think Stones will stay but if we get 30+ million we can get some useful additions and I think with Browning and Galloway we are not too far off discovering another Stones.
Wellzee