Everton Banter Archive February 04 2019

04 Feb 2019 21:02:02
Well whatever the problems the first team are having it certainly is not effecting the U23s. Watched them tonight at Swansea, strong defence and quick in attack. Hornby is a big lad and has a lovely touch. And given that we have just loaned out a few youngsters, we still have a lot of talent there.
Silva could do with watching these boys, they might keep him in a job.

04 Feb 2019 21:06:00
Defending zonally?

04 Feb 2019 22:33:53
Yes, but they know how to do it.

05 Feb 2019 00:12:10
Unsworth does not get the credit he deserves. Year in year out the U23's do very well. Regardless of how many have made it or will make it in the future Unsworth has them playing well as a team which is not what Silva is doing with the first team.

05 Feb 2019 09:45:05
Yea look at unsworth doing Silavas style of play better than silva, but sorry dave ya gunna have to go mate because Woburn knows business and your just an old boy we need young blood to take over your table topping team if wer ever gunna move forward.
See how ridiculous that sound when u put it on paper.

05 Feb 2019 09:58:27
Johny as I recall Unsworth was given a go and it didn't work. Managing the U23s is a little different to managing the first team. Bit like running a corner shop and then being asked to run Waitrose. It's to big a step for some.
And if you want to get personal, then yes I do know business, and in business you employ those who can do, not those who you think might be able to do. Otherwise you have no business.

05 Feb 2019 10:33:07
To be fair to Rhino Woburn he hardly had any time with the boys just over a month and you could see an improvement in his last game. His record in the PL over the period was P5 W2 D1 L2 and he had the haribo EL matches to contend with. Not so bad after all.

05 Feb 2019 10:54:12
Am not saying he should be 1st team coach am saying why should he go just because u want young blood even tho his job is to produce good youth players and he has consistently done that since he has been employed but u no business so what do I no ay.

05 Feb 2019 12:28:00
Sorry am I missing something here? Just what youth players have we produced? Oh yes Barkley. Who else?

05 Feb 2019 16:25:10
Woburn u waffle some garbage mate, Kenny? Dowell? Evans Beni Davies Williams Connelly Gordon Feeney con there are a lot of good youth players just cos the first team coach hasn't the balls to play them doesn't mean Unsworth is doing a poor job.

05 Feb 2019 19:21:36
As I recall they played in Euros and look how that turned out.

05 Feb 2019 19:47:54
Euros? Are u talking about when we played them in the europa league last year? The game we won 3 nil with feeney beni hornby and a few others played in? Wouldn't say they did badly.

05 Feb 2019 20:53:36
You have a very selective memory. 😂.

05 Feb 2019 22:21:42
That's the only game the kids played it mate so what's your point, unsworth should be sacked because we went out the europa league haha idiotic that mate, suppose your betting on city tomorrow like a real fan anyway ay.

06 Feb 2019 08:30:33
Unsworth consistently has the U23's doing well, does Mr Silva consult with Unsworth? Of course he does, and others. But the final decision is his, as is tactics, selection etc!

06 Feb 2019 10:23:14
exactly ducks its silva not playing them not unsworth not producing them.

04 Feb 2019 19:19:26
U23s on live now on Swansea website.

04 Feb 2019 18:41:37
Not much choice on the latest poll 🤔.

{Ed025's Note - it was done as a request skylark..

04 Feb 2019 19:23:01
Yes I know ed, but could have done with a third choice the other two are are to hard to pick from 😀.

{Ed025's Note - i will do a more extensive one after the weekend mate..

04 Feb 2019 20:00:22
Realist suggestions who would be available now? And don’t say Sam 😂.

04 Feb 2019 20:01:59
It’s like snog marry avoid 😂.

04 Feb 2019 20:16:55
You going to snog big Sam? Toffee ace.

04 Feb 2019 20:27:50
I haven't got a clue who to suggest, it's becoming a job no one will want.

04 Feb 2019 21:37:05
That’s just given me nightmares Smit 🤦🏻‍♂️.

04 Feb 2019 16:54:03
This season is now a right off, we have no trophies to compete for and Europe is a big ask with the way we are playing. The manager needs to try out different tactics with the personell at his disposal. Siggy is bang out of form so I would like to see Bernard played as a number 10 as he has the skill and industry to make things happen. Tosun deserves a run and can't be judged on Saturday as the support he had and service to him was none existent. The wingers need to attack fullbacks and stop playing backwards or sideways passes, Ricky and Lookman should be the starters until the seasons end. Its the managers job to fix the rut but he needs players willing to fight for the cause which I haven't seen lately, to me its as if he has lost the dressing room already.

04 Feb 2019 16:45:04
I personally don't think Zouma and Keane are to blame as I think it's how Silva sets up the team. Silva has made us worse at set-pieces imo. His final marking is dreadful. We are lopsided with wingers and I personally wouldn't blame Richarlison. Sigurdson has to take fault for a non-existent no.10 role. But Silva should mix it up and go two up front imo. I don't know who's worse Walcott for being utter tripe or Silva for continuing to pick him. Coleman is not up to it and Kenny has shown some promise so may push him out of the squad all together (obviously I love Coleman as an evertonian but the truth is the truth) . Gueye is great but he has always made it a tight balancing act in midfield. Pickford just needs tougher competition. To be fair on Silva the lack of a proper striker is a huge hinderence and one not of his making. Individuals need to stop making silly fouls, that's on them. More passion needs to be shown and it is difficult to attribute blame so I'll blame the players and the staff, we need more fight and passion. We have no purpose in attack and I think the players need to take charge and be aggressive with intent in the final third. That is my take atm.

04 Feb 2019 14:05:07
We can change the manager as much as we want the problem is we have manage to assemble a squad of mercenaries and or players who are simply not good enough!

Pickford - Needs to get the basics right

Colman - gone needs replacing

CB - all have a mistake in them

Midfield - the can all either tackle or pass none of them can do both, and they are so slow to react to transitional play

Wingers - grow a pair and beat a man with purpose

No 10 - split a defence or come up with something different, zero industry in front of goal

St - for crying out load put the ball in the back of the net!

All of the above are problem that aren’t going to be solved by sacking Silva

However he needs to sort his crap out ditch zonal marking and get some energy back in that team.

{Ed025's Note - yeah but besides that.. :)

04 Feb 2019 15:54:40
It needs freshening up abit. There's not enough movement up front. i.e breaking away from defenders. I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no one willing to give a mouthful out. We concede and the defence just turn and get ready for the play to start again. I'd give Feeney a go. Tell him to do what he does in the u23s, dish it out verbally, even if it is to a 30 million quid defender. Everything needs freshening us. It's getting down heartening and I'm hopeful for Wednesday but also nervous.

04 Feb 2019 12:44:52
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Manchester United Must Acquire an Appropriate Centre Back in the 2019 Summer Transfer Period

04 Feb 2019 08:30:22
It's clear that the Manager and the experience coaching staff sets up a game plan, tactics before very game, that's their job, but if the players don't follow it out or make mistakes like give the ball away that results in Goal or doesn't or can't play the ball quick enough or they don't play with heart and tempo or certain player that cost 45milion go missing, then all this is the Mangers fault, no not for me, you would be changing Managers every 6 weeks at a astronomical cost to the club, when the players cross the line it's their job to win a game of football or compete in a competitive way. These multi millionaire footballers are signed to the club they play for club player for the supporters play for their team mates, their should be 11 leaders on the pitch
If you sack a good Manager you will only replace him with another one that has failed at some other club at some other time .
Silva has a job to do it will take more than one season to sort this squad out, the players are what they are, not really up to the level of other premiership players, but the Manager can't come out and say this because they are valuable assets of the club, we need to recoup back the money invested in them.
It's hard being a supporter but that's nothing new when your not blaming the Manager your blaming the Chairman or the vise Chairmman or the tea lady.
It can spoil my weekend when we don't win and likewise Silva and let's not forget Furguson!
Big Duncan has been second in command for the previous 5 mangers, coaches the first team every day sit next to Silva every game but I never any criticism lodged towards him only to the Managers.

04 Feb 2019 09:10:15
Fergus on is not second in command and hasn't been at any point under the previous regimes, he is simply a coach, a coach who goes out ov his way to help player who want to do extra training, a coach who shows up at academy games of all age groups because he wants to know who is coming threw and also offers advice to all the kids in the academy. People blaming him need to realise he isn't Silavas choice therefore doesn't have a whole lot of responsibility, I think we need him to have a larger role at the club not just be a coach as he knows his football and loves this club.
Turning on Duncan is just making u sound like an idiot, why dnt u blame the other coaches? The ones silva has brought in? Oh yeah that's right because u dnt have a name for them so cnt abuse them. Duncan ferguson bleeds everton and is a well respected coach.

Reality time now boys and girls wer in a terrible run absolutely horrible and it's more than likely going to get worse before it gets better but it will get better eventually might not be this year but it will farhad isn't stupid he's not throwing money away its in his interests to make us successful and I have faith he will do just that.

{Ed002's Note - THis demonstrates exactly the point I have been trying to make - the fans knowledge of the club seems worful - and the fans have now started on Ferguson because they know no better. Joao Pedro Sousa is the assistant first team coach - but I suppose no one cares.}

04 Feb 2019 09:47:10
exactly ed they know his face so he's an easy target. is it Fergusons fault we can defend set pieces or would that be the defensive coaches? is it fergusons fault the players don't look fit enough to press for 90 mins or is it Pedro Conceicaos? Coming from a academy coach i no ferguson is very well respected right throughout the club. Do u have a personal opinion of dunc as a coach ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I really have no opinion at all of the coaches at Everton other than Silva.}

04 Feb 2019 10:28:11
OK Ed thanks for response I was just hoping with your contacts you would have heard if he is good coach or not but for me he needs more responsibility not less.

{Ed002's Note - I really would not want to get in to that. Many of the fans will trash all of the coaches they no absolutely nothing about at all.}

04 Feb 2019 12:08:16
Ferguson, worked hard at his badges, loves Everton and we love him. I too do not have an opinion on individual coaches, other than to say Silva did not do to well at his other two Premiership Clubs (my opinion) and is failing here after six months (appears to be a pattern rather than coincidence) . Did he bring the same coaches that were with him at the other two Prem Clubs, I wonder.

04 Feb 2019 12:35:56
I haven't personally criticised Furguson, you all seemed to missed my point.

04 Feb 2019 12:44:29
he did mate he's had the same staff since his sporting days apparently.

04 Feb 2019 10:47:08
No worries Ed nice one.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

04 Feb 2019 11:36:32
So ed2. Something is not right at our club. Is it the owner, chairman, the manager or the coaching. I suppose the owner has ultimate responsibility. Even the most die hard Everton fan must be struggling to find positives atm. In your infinite wisdom should We sack the manager or give him time?

{Ed002's Note - Why are the Everton fans so obsessed with blaming someone. The fans previously, and from a position of ignorance, caused such grief with the board such that no information was forthcoming. I explained that at the time, to no avail. I have explained over and over again since Silva was appointed that Moshiri was given bad advice by a third party. I have repeatedly said that buying Mina was a mistake, buying all available left wingers was a mistake and no giving Tosun a run was a mistake - that is the fault of Brands and Silva. Nothing has really changed Geoff. For now, ride the season out, look at the youngsters, look at the funds that can be raised from selling and the funds that can be contributed from "winnings" etc. (but remember with a lot more money required for the new stadium now that may not be as much as you think) and then make an informed and sensible decision. No more knee jerk reactions, no more overpaying on the likes of Mina to placate the fans, perhaps regroup - we'll see.}

04 Feb 2019 13:40:09
Uran if we missed your point what was your point mate.

04 Feb 2019 14:08:01
Thanks ed. We are just a mess of a club atm. I think brands is a decent acquisition but we need to stop throwing money at a problem and maybe look at bringing youngsters through and see if we can't do a utd a la 92.

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

04 Feb 2019 15:41:32
Johnny read my post again I haven't criticised anyone in my post, my point is that it is not always the Managers fault and to keep changing the Manager would be a big mistake and above all a costly one to the club and the players are what they are and maybe don't appear to up to the required level to follow out his game plan or tactics along with them making school boy errors.

04 Feb 2019 16:09:43
Its hard work Ed! For me, I am pleased with your patience. As they say ' I couldn't do your job'.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

04 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th February 2019