Everton Banter Archive July 03 2013

 

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03 Jul 2013 23:29:08
Is there any chance of martinez getting cheap deals for spanish players or on loans? Its a good market to scour

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03 Jul 2013 22:22:36
Read something today on the tv website that got me thinking. `Teams cannot have more than 17 non-home-grown players aged over 21 in their 25-man squads`
Just had a look at our squad and we have 10 homegrown players in the squad and 15 non-home-grown players. Does this mean under FIFA rules that we are only allowed to sign another 2 non nationals for the 25 man squad.

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Sailor {Ed025's Note - thats right sailor..

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Not all of those non-homegrown players in our squad are over 21 - we currently have eleven players that are not homegrown and over 21:
Howard;
Heitinga, Distin, Coleman;
Gibson, Oviedo, Pienaar, Fellaini;
Jelavic, Mirallas, Naismith.
Other non-homegrown players in our squad - like Junior, Gueye, and Vellios - are, I believe, still 21 or younger.
Apologies if the last three are now actually over 21.
Morocco Mole

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Home grown counts if they have played three years at the club under 21 I think or in the country with a english club

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To state the obvious ed does this mean if we get kone and alcaraz unless we sell any foreign players we can't go for honda? {Ed025's Note - that is the case, but at least one of ours is going..

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I play FM. have to register more than 21 age HG. 8 player from total 25 players. This is only for league.

For CL. 8 HG. player separate to 4 by team and 4 by league.

Very secure if we keep 4 academy player minimum.

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03 Jul 2013 22:24:42
Can someone tell me who is going in goal, if Howard gets injured?

We don't need another striker.

Backup Keeper
C Half
Midfield Centre/Attacking

That's if we don't lose anyone. Which is very very unlikely. Then we are in trouble. {Ed025's Note - roberto has got it in hand biffy..

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Has Mucha signed for anyone yet? Blue Lee {Ed025's Note - no lee..

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Springthorpe, yeah we need a goalie

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"We don't need another striker"!

Fell off me chair laughing, then crying.

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Me too : (

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03 Jul 2013 22:24:36
I think as fans we should be realistic we have overachieved finishing 6th. The board does not invest anything into the team compared to other teams in the top ten. I listened to talk s**** tonight, putting Liverpool spurs and the rest of the top four we cannot compete in wages or fees. When we do find a gem of a player we are forced to sell!
As a club we are at a cross roads, what really surprised me on talk sport was a member of the press who actually said that as a commercial product everton are so far behind. I've said this for a while we're dreadful.

Also when we're in for a player it takes an age to sign them up. Mark Hughes signs u21 Spanish player bang and its in.

The everton board are cack!

Eric D

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It's the press who are cack - lazy "persons" who don't research stories properly, but just regurgitate the same old cliches.
Morocco Mole

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Eric, I salute you sir. Finally an Everton fan who realises exactly what and where you really are at.

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We do seem to have a bad business model, from slow transfers, bad kit deals e. t. c, it shocks me that the likes of stoke swansea and cardiff in the last few weeks seem to be bidding on a number of players yet we seem not to be on a par with them in terms of spending e. t. c

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Yes other team have bid on and signed players but RM only took over on monday, give it a rest you 'so called' fans

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Although I agree with much of the op, the forced to sell gems comment is some what of a myth. In the last ten years the only player I can think of that fits that is Lescott, and maybe Gravesen, but that was to Real so. Rooney was not bought and is a bit of an anomaly. Arterta was good business as he was not the same post injury, Cahill finished, Pienaar would not sign another contract so got something rather than nothing, apart from that can not think of gems we got rid of. Maybe I have suppressed the bad memories!

Svenny

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Our business model is woeful, our marketing team are an absolute joke. Can you tell me another club in the pl that you couldn't buy infant kits for last year, you couldn't buy the away kit for kids under a certain age and the merchandise in the club shop is second rate tacky and poor quality. The club is run by a bunch of shausters and we'e going no where under this current regime. all the way from the higher echelons of the board room right down to the person who designed the new badge. Soddy.

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Nothing to do with RM, this is over the years, sorry for having an opinion on us finishing top 6 consistanly not spending much and still in debt up to are eyeballs can't believe i'm allowed to have a view on this its mad.

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03 Jul 2013 22:18:25
If worst happens and fellaini and baines are sold, will all money be reinvested in team?
Phil Griff. {Ed025's Note - i would like to think so..

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04 Jul 2013 09:56:11
Don't hold your breath

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Not a chance in hell. We won't even get 20 million of it and if we do I'll give my season ticket to the first person to post this again to say I was wrong.

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03 Jul 2013 22:16:23
Good buys -
In-
Joel 2m
Alcaraz free
Byram 5m
Kone 5m
Honda 3.5m
Mavuba 6m
Bony 12m

Outs-
Fellaini 24m
Heitinga 4m
Gueye 2m
Jelavic e 6m
Neville free
Mucha free

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Is Byram a joke? We already have enough right backs.

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Joel will be 1m

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03 Jul 2013 21:55:17
We should go in for douglas on a free nacer chadli, leroy fer, luc castaignos an giefer they would be funded by selling anichabe naismith heitinga plus nevills an moyes wages

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Forgot to say plus what ever teansfer funds bk gas guven us

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Let's just sign the whole fc twente team while we're at it.

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Them four with the rest of are team would be pushing for a top 4 with out a doubt

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If only life was that simple

MikeDeBlue

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03 Jul 2013 21:31:59
RM to win a trophy in his first season. would love that also seeing the crowd turn on moyse at utd. he has messed us about for 12 months and when he leaves he carries on!
what sort of reception do you think he will get first time back at Goodison?

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I would not buy the brasso yet If I were you mate.

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Tbh I always defended Moyes, but he has certainly gone down in my estimation these past few days. Hypocrite is the word that springs to mind. I will always be grateful for the work he put into our club while he was here, but I don't think I will be applauding him as much as I did at the West Ham game, if at all, but I won't boo him either. He is now part of our past, not part of our future.

COY (WSW)B

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Brasso comment had me in stitches

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03 Jul 2013 21:10:13
Heard we are willing to pay 5 mil for Dyer is there any truth in that?

Also do you believe Honda is more likely to join us still over Ac Milan I've heard their close to a deal? {Ed025's Note - so the press believe bland, and honda really is 50/50 mate..

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Ta Ed hope they both come

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03 Jul 2013 21:06:55
Will we sign another striker apart Kone? And why is Honda taking so long? {Ed025's Note - i cant see another striker coming myself...and CSKA are hoping for a bidding war between us and milan..

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Milan are close to confirming a deal Ed {Ed025's Note - they are as close as us mate..

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We should be all over it like a rash if Milan have to sell first to accommodate Honda. He should be a priority and we should get it done asap before they can sell. {Ed025's Note - i agree..

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Cska don't want to sell honda until after the middle of july due to a cup game they have

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03 Jul 2013 20:54:45
There seems to be a lot of negative post about Bill Kenwright recently. While he may not have the money that some others do, at least he has class. He keeps all the transfer goings on quiet until a deal is actually made, unlike Dave Whelan who seems to blab to the media at every opportunity

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There's always negativity about kenwright in Any transfer window because usually everyone is terrified of losing are best players rather than the excitement of buying players. u have to admit his track record isn't a positive one

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03 Jul 2013 20:42:28
Ed are the bony rumours strong or are people just putting our club in for the race to scare other clubs to sign him? {Ed025's Note - i think people are seeing that bony is linked to the EPL ben, and expect us to be in the frame for him..

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03 Jul 2013 20:40:00
Hey Ed is Deulofeu going to be the big Spanish we were hearing about a few months ago? Also would there be a possibility of a straight swap with Rooney and Baines? {Ed025's Note - he could possibly be LR, but no chance of that swap deal mate..

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Why would we swap a left back for a striker?

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03 Jul 2013 20:38:45
Ill get behind anyone who joins us but I really hope kone doesn't sign. Think he's a good player and was better than our strikers last season but 5 mill for a 29 year old? I honestly think he will have a good season then flop it the next just like jelly

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Ben 5 mill is nothing really and 29 is not exactly over the hill. if you're basing the age factor on not signing him then although baines is a much better player albeit in a different position he is 28. so does that mean we should sell for less than the 20-25 mill he is really worth

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03 Jul 2013 20:27:36
I think we should try for Lucas Piazon on loan

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03 Jul 2013 20:20:24
Anything new on Honda Ed? {Ed025's Note - no mate, still the same situation..

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03 Jul 2013 19:36:01
Kone
ST
Pienaar Mirallas
LW RW
Osman Gibson
CM CM
Baines Coleman
LWB RWB

Distin Jagielka Heitinga
CB CB CB

Howard
GK

Our formation next season under Martinez' philosophy? maybe with Alcaraz instead of Heitinga?

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Fellaini must be injured then.

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No, he's in the section marked "Arsenal"

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03 Jul 2013 19:19:39
If we sign kone and bony were would they play position wise, he looks really good that bony hope we get him

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If we sign Kone and Bony we only need a phoney to make up the set.

ah. step forward Bill Kenwright! {Ed025's Note - quite funny that mate, but if you want to step forward and re-mortgage your house for the club...be my guest..

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He didn't remortgage his house for the club, he's not put a penny in. It's an old wives tale, same as his lies about being in the boys pen with holes in his shoes. {Ed025's Note - sighs..

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Ed, I appreciate you want to back the guy and that's fair enough, your choice. But if you want the truth just go look on the keioc site. Now, they may have an agenda but they also back their criticisms up with cold, hard facts which are indisputable. I've met BK and found him to be a warm, friendly, engaging character but he simply isn't capable of take us forward. {Ed025's Note - if you can offer a viable alternative mate..i would love to hear it..

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I'm not slating him for the fun of it either Ed, as I've said I've met the guy and would love nothing more than for him to take us back to where we belong at the top, but he's made bad decision after bad decision ad nauseum. One of two is human nature mate, but countless failures of epic proportions is unforgivable. And he still is deluded enough to peddle the myth he's the best man for the job.
There's ways to make it more manageable too, but he won't have it. A rights issue, diluting his shares, redeveloping GP but he thinks he knows best and won't listen to reason or sense. I've got no problems with people supporting him at all, but for people to credit him as some sort of messiah or saviour is baffling. {Ed025's Note - im not saying he is the best thing since sliced bread mate, because he aint...but he is our chairman, and there is nobody else on the horizon, so i say lets stick together, divided we fall and all that..

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Ed u always sigh when fans give u hard facts about kenwright. do abit of research mate u make yourself look abit arrogant and abit stupid. if u back a baffoon u end up sounding like one. justvabit of advice. gimo {Ed025's Note - thanks for the advice mate, but with me being stupid and arrogant, im bound to ignore it..

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True to how bill would respond, head in the sand. but eh let's stay positive if baines stays I will be on this site and applaud kenwright.

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Is there any need for the abuse. I've said what I had to say without feeling the need to abuse the Ed. He works his socks off to help keep this site running for our benefit without payment so how about a little more respect, eh?

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Sorry ed

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Phoney poster here - yep it was a cheap gag, agreed - but kenwright is sitting on an unrealised profit of about a hundred million over what he paid for the club

He has a couple of options as I see it - spend some of that profit on players

Do a share issue to the season ticket holders at below market value

Oh there is one more option - sit on the profit and spend nothing then pocket the lot when he does eventually sell in a couple of decades time when he's lost interest

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03 Jul 2013 18:22:21
Where did these bony rumours come from I hope it's true

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03 Jul 2013 18:15:32
So the dreaded "I want him to stay (baines)", by RM, so do we all, alas you know he is going so does everyone else. Just a puppet for BK.
Here is how it went. Get in the ECHO Robbie, and tell them before he goes you want him to stay. They won't see it coming.
OK Bill!, BTW any news on those loan deals?, No yet Robbie,, Anyway let's see how we start, Aug 31st is a long way a way yet.
Ok Bill. No problem.
BAU

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Had to laugh at that Biffy- really funny but TBH I really think we will keep Baines.

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03 Jul 2013 17:32:54
hi ed just watched rm on everton website I like him but did not like the way he was talking about the transfers if he don't watch it the transfer window will go by and he will be in the big scramble at the end. you have said it, I think all blues want it, come on rm give us that big signing you need to impress us rm for your own sake {Ed025's Note - he knows what he is doing stevie, have faith mate..

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To degsy and c a jones, how will u feel if kenwright sells baines. because everyone I know feels the only way he will go,. will be if kenwright pushes him out and sells. we need more trust in our chairman. this to me is a massive moment for everton and most importantly bill kenwright to show ambition. if we sell baines, we will seriously weaken our side. u seem to defend him all the time on this site, just curious what your feelings towards him will be if he sells

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Dont be silly. If Baines goes it is because Baines wants to. BK is a supporter as much as anyone and he wants to desperately turn our club into the one it used to be. ie at the top of the table. When he took over, we had a crap manager, falling attendances, terrible players and regularly finished in the bottom 6. Since he took over we have regularly been in the top 7 or 8, have had a great manager, attendances are back where they were before the Johnson era and most importantly, we have some great players. Ok none of us know what this season will bring. But BK is doing his very best to improve us year on year.
Degsypulford

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Degsy, he suppose to be are chairman. not that old chestnut of he's one us and re mortgaged his house,. you really to look at how blue bill bought everton. the man fails on every avenue of progress he tries, can't be arsed even running thru them. you'll find that it's moyes astute managerment that has us near the top, backed by a board who gave him the worst net spend in the premiership, hence why he's at utd. as for baines the only way heil go is if he is sold. how will u feel if kenwright sells him.

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None of that 'success' has anything to do with BK. He got lucky with Moyes, who worked a minor miracle despite BK's attempts to undermine him at every opportunity. He promised to back him with £5m every year, yet his net spend was £800. 000. A fraction of the £5m he was promised. The truth is, had he picked Gary Megson, as he was about to, then we'd be what you call in the industry as '****ed'! In the Championship in administration.

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If Baines wants to go he will go simple as that. Just hope BK makes that ginger rat pay at least £20 mill for him and gives Robbie the lot.
That said I really think Baines will stay.

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Put it another way do u think bill will sell at 20 million. even if u sold 4 25 mill we'd be weaker at the start of the season. some players you don't sell they are too important. even more so now, everything would be wrong in selling baines,. the timing, the ambition. the message to players, the message to fans. just say no, look at levys stance over bale. his chairmanship is example. there credentials have gone up and they are taking a lot more seriously

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Unnamed (As always) Poster, let's see if I have got this one straight. Any success we have or advance we make has to be attributed to BK getting lucky. While at the same time anything that goes wrong, deal falls though, player wants to leave etc has to be BK's fault?

If you really and honestly believe that nonsense, seek out professional help because you have a serious problem.

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People just pointing out that on field progress was made by moyes under pretty hard conditions. off field progress which is down too bill and board. well u tell me what progress.

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I don't need professional help. but everton do they are run by half wits. as for unnamed poster. gimo. the others I don't know but agree with every word they say.

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WtG-Where does it say that it's BK's fault if a deal falls through, or if something goes wrong? All that is said is he got lucky with 1 managerial appointment.
If you can't read properly don't pass comment on things you clearly don't understand.

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03 Jul 2013 17:14:14
Can't believe some fans are giving Martinez stick already for Kone and Alcaraz. First things first, they haven't even joined yet, let alone put on the shirt. So what if we are signing 1/2 Wigan players? How do we feel when United fans scoff at Baines and Fellaini? Who knows Kone best - me, you, or Roberto Martinez? Are you telling me Moyes never signed a bad player - he signed some pretty poor strikers alone for more than £5mil. The deal is not done, but if it happens, Kone will probably be a decent/good player, and provide something different that we've been crying out for in our front line imo. Alcaraz = free, wages (meaning we can sell heitinga and get him off the wage bill, and sign some others). Sure, I'd like us to sign Honda or Soldado etc, and I hope we do, but you cannot write off certain players or Roberto before they've signed/pulled on a blue shirt!

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Also, where did Baines, Jagielka, Cahill, Lescott etc come from?

OllieEfc

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People who speak negatively about Kone baffle me. He will score goals for us and is technically an excellent player. Will fit right in with us and link up with the players we already have. Truth is, it matters not who we sign. The negative ones will always be negative about new signings. Until they prove to be a success, by which time, they will be on the bandwagon.

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I can't believe you have said that Kone is technically gifted. Youve seen him how many times?

Well good luck with that cause as you will see, he has one of the worst first touches I've seen at Premier League leve. before you ask, i'm a Wigan fan, and I really am not bitter. Just amazed you would shell out 5 million up front for him. #shouldhaveboughtabent

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03 Jul 2013 15:45:39
i have to say I don't really get over excited by rumours but boy Deulofeu would be one top loan, I have seen him in action a few times and this guy would give us a real threat, I could imagine him and pienaar roaming the wings with mirallas playing off the striker, I think we would score a load.

It's probably not a viable rumour but it would be a dream come true, could lead to a line up similar to this and I wouldn't see many complaining about this

Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Gibson Fellaini
Deulofeu Mirallas Pienaar
Kone

Now that would cause some damage right there

Alex

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Yip, bet City, Utd, Chelski, Arsenal, spurs and Liverpool are c******g themselves Alex.

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Beat City, Beat United, were most certainly a match for Arsenal and we took 4 points off Spurs without any new signings last season mate! What's your point?

Dog Puke Peter

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03 Jul 2013 15:21:08
Fair enough Martinez is stating that he intends to Keep Baines at club, one problem looming. if 'others' inside the club see the £ sign of a Baines transfer. wouldn't that totally p**s him off before a ball is kicked?

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03 Jul 2013 15:13:02
Rumours regarding Wayne Rooney making a return are a best extremely hopeful. If you think about it Everton probably wouldn't to be able to offer more than 75k a week which would mean him taking £150k weekly wage drop just to join us. I can't see that happening. {Ed025's Note - nor me dixie..

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Yeh, big drop, but if he wants to go on he will take a massive drop in wages as nobody will match his current contract. I think he should go abroad for three years and then return home to us for his swansong.

Jon

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Can't understand when u say can't afford his wages,. he's one of the most marketable players in the most watched league with big money comin from all corners of the world. utd had to giv him that contract because of the money he made them. it's called marketing he would bring easily an extra ten million a year to everton.

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I don't think our board have ever heard of the word marketing

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We could afford 150k a week for him if we wanted. There are ways these deals can happen with assistance from several parties: directors, sponsors, reserves, borrowing against future income etc. Unfortunately we won't take that chance. I think any evertonian who holds a grudge against him as a person and footballer would quiet down if he joined and had a decent first few games. P

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03 Jul 2013 15:09:13
I might be going over old ground but get on you tube and type hitler boardroom when he finds put moyes is leaving. Sheer quality,

Eric D

Ps RM will have Jelly and Kone banging them in. Strikers went backwards under Moyes

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03 Jul 2013 14:48:40
I have just read martinez's views on the transfer rumours on the everton website, I like what he is saying so I will reserve any judgement till the transfer window closes and who ever we get I will support them! The next bit of news I would like to read on the blues website is that bainesy has signed a new deal! Coyb!
Siefc1979

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03 Jul 2013 09:47:25
you heard out on the tranfer of
stefan johansen ed? {Ed025's Note - only that we have looked at him mull..

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03 Jul 2013 14:02:20
What is going on with the Kone deal-tv reporting last night that Whelan was claiming he would sign for us today, now reports from Whelan saying 3 clubs have come in for him?we all knew that anyway but seems odd the story keeps changing, hopefully he does one somewhere else!!

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03 Jul 2013 13:17:40
Kone showed last season he could do well for wigan but before that be wasn't a proven goal scorer he got 1 goal for Seville in 40 matches

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I get it. Some people don't rate him which is fine, but give the lad a chance and then get on his case if he doesn't deliver.
With those stats you mention, 30 odd of those games were from the bench and he was plagued by injury.
He cost them around £10m and clubs don't go shelling that money around on poor players.
I personally think he'll prove an astute signing and brings a lot to the table, more than the other strikers we have currently.

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You pick up on that stat but not the more recent stat of Levante in the same league which he scored 17 in 37 games.

He then moved to Wigan with 13 in 36.

So not too shabby.

Selective reading?

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Very selective reading. Kone is a class player with at least another 3 years at this level.5m is not ridiculous money for this guy.

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03 Jul 2013 13:03:16
Trust me RM never was interested in Redmond, all paper talk, who couldn't even cement a spot in birminghams starting 11 witha small squad in the championship last season, just because he's English he's massively overrated

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You blatantly have never watched him if you're saying he's overrated

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03 Jul 2013 13:03:11
There is only one transfer I want, and that is Bill kenwright out of everton fooball club. We may not be able to attract someone with great personal wealth, but honesty and competence would be a good starting point.

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The OP doesn't give his/her name, so that tells me all I need to know about his/her own honesty. As for the OP's own competence, I cannot comment as I don't know him/her, but what I can state is that I disagree with his/he views about BK.

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03 Jul 2013 17:21:51
I fell asleep half way through the original post, boring boring boring boring

Degsy

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So you want to kick out the only person on the board who puts money into the club? Sounds like a clever move.

TC

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What, the biggest snake oil salesman in the western hemisphere bankrolls our club? Don't talk soft.

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Until a genuine person publicly steps forward to take over the financial burden of the club I will always trust and support BK.

Hank

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03 Jul 2013 12:43:58
Alright ed just wanted to know how often does Dave Whelan post on here as he is clearly an Everton ITK?
Mr Blue Sky

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03 Jul 2013 12:41:35
Right everyone take a deep breath or get a brown paper bag.

We finished 6th last season with our current squad. We didn't go any higher because of competition and lack of depth, especially up front.

We are signing players that will add both and make the squad more competitive and I for one is really looking forward to seeing what we can do.

We will probably sign a couple more players so have some patience and see what happens but don't write off this team until you see what the finished product is at the start of the season.

So turn that frown upside down and cheer the the feck up.

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03 Jul 2013 18:05:16
Agreed whole heartedly. 6th place while underachieving late in games and late in season. Keep Baines and Felli. Spent the TV money on the Wigan duo and Honda and a backup GK. play Vellios Barkley Stones. The team is instantly better. COYB

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03 Jul 2013 12:06:42
Gollum to Swansea for £6m, maybe its a good thing Laudrup didn't come to us.
Blue22

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Thought he'd gone to Utd?

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03 Jul 2013 17:43:48
gollum. aka Moyes has gone to united. on the other hand Sloth from the goonies. aka shelvey has had a bid accepted to leave for Swansea. CraigHuytonBlue

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I thought he was more of a Voldamort.

Hank

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03 Jul 2013 11:40:15
I hope the powers that be had a sell on clause with Norwich for John Ruddy, hopefully this is why their holding out for £10m for him and were in line for a little bonus - TheBarrall

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03 Jul 2013 13:06:48
Moyes wouldn't have put a Claus in he didn't rate him

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03 Jul 2013 11:10:44
anyone who knows, what is kone c/v before he joined wigan?

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The information is widely available should you bother to look for it.

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Average at best. The stint at Sevilla that produced 1 goal in 40 games is worrying.

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He was injured for a lot of the time he was at Sevilla and he was also second nd 3rd choice. A lot of those 40 games are off the bench. Before Sevilla his goalscoring record is good.

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Average at best? give over, you clearly have only looked at one stat of his, 17 in 37 for levante, 13 in 36 for wigan

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Care about his record over the last 2 years mate. There are many examples of strikers who have suddenly come good. I see Christian Benitez is being linked with big money move to Spurs, anyone remember him at Bham? Looked very poor. Kone is now in his prime and injury free.

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03 Jul 2013 10:51:14
I think this could be our team for this season

--------- Howard ----------
-- alcaraz -Jags - Distan ---
----------- Felli ------------
coleman -- Gibbo --- Baines

-- Kev---- Jelly ---- Kone


Kev and Kone to work the channels, Witch leaves jelly in the box where he needs to be, and that front 3 will get goals.

Coleman and Baines to work the flanks and get back to help the defence out so that will be 5 defenders with Gibbo and Felli to work the middle and swap around.

Plus we have Anichibe and Vellois to swap with and of the front 3

Duffy, Stones and Garbut for the defence,

Barkley and this Deulofeu ( if we get on loan from Barca) for the middle


Outs
Jonny
Mucha
Nev
Hiz

In
Kone
Al
Deulofeu (loan)
new back up keeper

4 in and out for less than 10mil and maybe a few more loans and frees to bulk up the squad

and with that team I think we have a good chance as any for a top 6 place

Whats peoples thoughts on that?

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Good shout that yorks and very realistic.
whatever happens it going to be an exciting season I reckon.
wouldnt mind sinclair or Dyer as well and maybe fer.
got to be positive!

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Why is everyone forgetting Pienaar? Still a top player.

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Don't think Fellani wi be with us next season so stick gibbo there and if we're lucky Honda can take the creative role or maybe Barkley, that team is probably not far off what we wil have, with maybe a few additions that we haven't already been linked with (hopefully) but all in all Ill be happy with that (not excited just happy) but I am excited about a new style of football at goodison park!
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No plans involving pienaar

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I forgot to list pienaar as we could drop any of the front 3 if out of form and put pienaar just behind the front 2,

Also ment to say the Stones could replace Coleman if injured and oviedo could do the same with baines.

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03 Jul 2013 10:49:28
I did say the only HONDA at goodison will be in the car park.

BK can spin tails about he talked to last week.
We are only getting Championship players. The wigan 2 are championship players, we couldn't even get the kid Redmond. Norwich city have more pull.
Ive told you all before 48 points for us, no more than that, However Bill has said Champions League, so look into his eyes. Just like Little Britain. My fellow Evertonians better get in the real world, Mike Walker times back again.

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03 Jul 2013 12:11:38
back on your terrible honda car park joke, looks like he prob isn't coming but your jokes still awful

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You are the most miserable man in the world. We could get the best manager, Lionel messi, a new 5000000 seater stadium that's full every week with gold plated toilets and a free season ticket for life, win every competition and a free life time supply of lap dancers and you would still moan you old f*ft.

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03 Jul 2013 15:48:15
It's hard to say you told us because everyone else has used that joke getting old now

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Could someone please Biff Biffy?

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03 Jul 2013 10:41:08
Dave saying now 3 clubs have come in for kone. he might just be saying that to push the deal through.

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03 Jul 2013 10:33:33
Ross Barkley should be ready to step up big time this season

just add a decent striker and we're nearly there

(pienaar might need replacing at some point and possible Distin also)

lets hope we don't have half season injuries again to Gibson and Mirrallas

we were unlucky last year with those two injuries and Jelavic disintegrating

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Agree. Barkley will be like a new signing. Also think there will be room for Oviedo in RMs system further forward. We have a few players who just need a chance to show what they can do

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03 Jul 2013 10:30:53
According to tv Man United waiting outcome of meeting between Baines and Martinez before coming back in with another offer. Meeting apparently today.

Lee

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03 Jul 2013 10:11:14
After Nathan Dyer. What you guys think? Unsure myself

TC

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TC I would take him. real pacy player who in out team would flourish.

stewillow

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I was happy when I read this. The guy has blistering pace and can beat a man. would be a good signing for 5m.

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03 Jul 2013 09:47:54
what a load of rubbish, kone, alcaraz, dyer, redmond, come on are these top european players. where is this top european signing. I can't see us moving forward, only going to be a middle table team. MOYES you were the king at bringing in good european players on a shoe string budget. rant over

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Maybe Martinez will turn them into world class players Redmond is an unbelievable player.

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Redmond and dyer are promising players

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Yep, Kroldrup, Bily, Van Der Meyde, etc.

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If last season told us anything. it is that our squad has too many average players,

too many games we threw away points in

we didn't really with injuries like we have done under moyes in the past, just too many players didn't perform and with some ex wigan player I don't see much improvement

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For every Bily, there's a Pienaar, Mirallas, Arteta, Cahill etc, For every Kroudrup there's a Lescott, Jags, Distin, etc. For every van der Meyde, well, you get my meaning, no?

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Too many average players? Is that what you got from last season?

Now I don't have a season ticket anymore, and I only managed to get to a few games last season after relocating to Edinburgh, but my take on last season was that we need more firepower.

We created chance after chance in most games last season, even dominating teams at times, yet we'd end up with a draw due to not converting chances and letting a sloppy goal away.

I read these comments and its as if we finished 16th last season! We were within touching distance of 4th for the majority of last season without anyone scoring on a regular basis. Too many average players, get a grip!

TJ

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Top European signing? Are you deluded? What ever happened to buying potential rather than finished article of champions league quality. What planet do you live on? We can't afford these players. We need to hit the 5m market and bring in as many technically gifted players as possible. With RMs style, provided they have the quality, he wil get the best out of their ability. It's what he does very well as a manager.

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03 Jul 2013 09:31:26
I'm really looking forward to watching us play this year. I honestly think that Martinez will get us playing some cracking football. Being from Swansea I saw how he turned Swansea into a premiership team and whilst managers like Laudrup and Rodgers were the ones to benefit, it was Martinez who lay the foundations.

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At last somebody thinking like me! I've been saying this to kopites for ages but they won't have it. They think the sun shines from Brendas b
ackside- folks!

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My brother lives in swansea and is a fan, he has said the same, martinez did the work and built the team that got them in the prem

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03 Jul 2013 09:19:41
Looks like we have let Honda slip through our fingers! We need to be more aggressive, it's pathetic

Rich84

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Not really, Honda wanted to go to Milan, what can we do about that?

From the sounds of it, we were the aggressors in this situation, but the player wanted the move to Milan, and in this day and age, players have all the power

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Is the Honda deal to Milan complete then? I can't see no concrete evidence he's actually signed for them

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We should be more aggressive in the transfer market you think? So Honda picks Milan over Everton, okay what do you suggest? We send in a couple of big lads put a sack over his head, drag him kicking and screaming to Finch Farm, where Roberto and Bill hire some dodgy hypnotist to brain wash him into signing?

Get a grip on reality for a moment, it is something called "Personal Choice" if the player decides he does not want to come to us for whatever reason, more money at another club, European football, the chance to live in Milan as oppose to the Cost Del Merseyside, or even just to avoid having to put up with negative moaning fans like you there is nothing we can do about it, so deal with it!

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03 Jul 2013 09:00:05
i would prefer pablo hernandez over dyer, mcgeady, sinclair and redmond

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03 Jul 2013 08:47:49
why would we smash our record fee for soldado if fellaini leaves like some people are reporting when we are about to sign kone, not saying that I woudn't want soldado but we would have to many strikers and need a suitable replacement for fellaini such capoue, fer, kondogbia, mavuba etc.

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03 Jul 2013 08:46:07
Good morning blues I see some reports suggesting Rooney back to us. Personally I can't see it myself but I would do loop the loops and hula hoops all over the place if it happened I would be delighted but anyway I won't rule it out 100 per cent there is always a small possibility but anyway Kone is a good signing he will get a lot of goals for us. Reports saying Baines will hold crunch talks with Martinez today about staying or going I really hope he stays and we can finally put this one to bed and start concentrating on the pre season and hopefully get few more signings in either way it is going to be a busy summer for Everton and 1 which I hope were delighted with in the end.

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Once a blue has said he won't sign a new contract if it is less than the current £225k that he is on now. He is just in the game for the money now. Don't want him back here. He isn't even that good anymore, just another overrated player because he is English.

Mike

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03 Jul 2013 08:01:55
Rooney possible return? Theses no way he go to Chelsea or arseanl

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03 Jul 2013 07:40:08
So, Dave Whelan has confirmed
Kone will be ours at some point today? Should be a good signing I think. People are saying he only scored 11 or 13 goals last season, however many it was. He still scored more than our strikers, and the team was very weak. I think he has the potential to get into the 20s for us!

Did anyone know Dave Whelan once broke his leg?

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Did he? When? He's kept that one quiet.
Domo

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03 Jul 2013 07:23:55
why can't moyes move on and think about united i'm sick of seeing him linked to efc and players that are under efc contracts. in my opinion he is now unsettling our squad. please move on mr moyes u don't work here anymore. get a life. tp.

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03 Jul 2013 07:14:39
Aaaaaaaaarrouna KOOOONE Aaaaaaaaarrouna KOOOONE! enough of all the moaning get behind the team he is now one of ours an that's what will be sung from all sides of goodison when he scores his goals.

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03 Jul 2013 02:48:51
I know people are disappointed with the idea of signing Kone, but he was highly regarded when he first arrived at Wigan and his form only dipped as the rest of the team did (who were missing their four best defenders, in each position - like us losing Jags, Distan, Coleman and Baines at the same time, except our players are miles better - for over half the season). Hate to remind you, but he annihilated our defence on three separate occasions last season and scored more than our top scorer. Plus he's bound to get competition for a start from Jelly, Big Vic, even Vellios might get a shout. And that can only be good for all of them. I'm looking forward to what he can surprise us with. Give Kone a break! Not that he's signed yet.

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Rooney rumours surfacing again, cant. See it happening, but people writing it off because of money are really naive. Rooney is a cash cow, still the biggest English footballer in the most popular and biggest sold league all over the world. the coup it's self would generate so much headlines. any CEO or shrewd marketing would pay rooneys wages and make money. here's a little example of the top of my head Rooney in a everton Chang shirt that to chang would be the best advertising they could dream off, everton could get more money off them. big sponsors would be attracted to everton. it's all about marketing. that's how utd are now global massive marketing. Robert earl is suppose to be good in this field,. to suggest his wages are too much. is amatuer

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Although he is a tad expensive for me, given his age. Kone will be a step up from Jelavic and Anichebe, and he showed last season he can work in a Martinez system, which I imagine is pretty important.

The most dominant opposition strikers I saw last season was Benteke and Kone, they tore our defence a new one, so the lad showed he can play. Grabbed 11 goals in the league at a ratio of 1 in 3, so that isn't bad, and hopefully with some better players around him, he can increase that tally to 15. If he can grab 15, then surely no-one can have any issues spending 5mil on him?

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03 Jul 2013 06:46:32
It seems that in every transfer window we are linked with some really exciting players.
When are "we" going to stop falling for them all and realise there'll be no mega international star arriving, and it's just paper talk and people with vivid imaginations or wishful thinking.
If our new striker is anything to go by prepare to be underwhelmed, just as we tend to be in every transfer window!

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Need to keep the faith chrissinclair, Mirallas, Arteta, Feliani, Coleman, Jelavic (1st Season) Lescott, Gibson all signed with similar ums and arghs from fans even before they kicked a ball for us. Granted a couple of dodgy ones here and there, Naismith (who may come good if he plays in his preferred position) Neville (who in my view only had one really dody spell last year), Bale wasnt able to play against him and their valuing him at £70 mil for gods sake.

There are players out there to suit our budget even if we are predominantly a sell to buy club now. Pretty sure Martinez has a few tricks up his sleeve similar to Myoes. Players we don't know about for around the £ 5mil mark. Just be patient and try and stay positive ffs.
Paddock Neil

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03 Jul 2013 02:50:02
We didn't know who is RM. target. Jealous while many team sign new face but RM. no any his own movement. Seem everything in this page just poster 's idea. My own also.

IN
GK. Joel 1 m.
CB. Manga 4. 5 m.
CM. Diame. 3. 5 m.
AMC. Chadli in case Felli leave. 8. 5 m.
W. Redmond 2. 5 m.

Out
Jonny 3 m.
Gaeye 2 m.
Plus budget 15 m.

All enough no need to build too big squad. After we can play in Europe then back up 3 man. I think BK. will employ me surely because I will make him profit 24 m. from Felli. HA HA HA

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New striker is priority mate.

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03 Jul 2013 02:27:39
If I had been lucky enough to be a pro footballer like Rooney or Baines and born and bred in Liverpool, no amount of money would ever tempt me to sign for those dirty Mancs, just cringe at the thought, would get more pleasure in telling them to do one, Shearer did and have to respect no8 for doing the same,.! {Ed025's Note - you may have a different view in real life mate..

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03 Jul 2013 01:25:52
Where is spurs getting all they money from surely they punching well above they weight?

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03 Jul 2013 07:40:26
I think they are owned by ENIC, joe lewis and daniel levy own most of ENIC and are worth appx 4 billion dollars, big factor here is that they both invest in the club unlike our billionaire investor who is only into the blues to take take take

Degsy

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Match day revenue is significantly higher than ours. Average ticket price about 40% higher. So maybe from there? I don't know just a thought

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03 Jul 2013 01:22:52
In my opinion what I saw of kone at Wigan was he was a good players, give him a break. let's be honest, anything but jela, RM has seen that after a day! All kone needs is great service and with mirallas pienaar Ossie and baines, it'll be 5million worth spent, what do you think ed? Cjtefc1993 {Ed025's Note - i think he will do very well mate..

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02 Jul 2013 23:38:15
How come its all gone quiet on the Honda front, Ed? {Ed025's Note - they are waiting for us and milan to have a bidding war..

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