Everton Banter Archive February 03 2013

03 Feb 2013 23:14:48
Hi Ed, What do you think our chances are of signing Younes Belhanda? Cheers Dan1 { Ed025's Note - i dont know dan...i like him, but im not the manager mate..

Got no chance seeing as though the window has closed

03 Feb 2013 22:18:23
Yh I agree mate wonder if moyes is waiting to see if villa go down to make a bid,

03 Feb 2013 20:58:19
Even a draw would do"it was 4-4 last thanks lads for bein so negative!ryan

03 Feb 2013 20:32:34
I may get disagrees for this but I think this year we will Finnish 6th/7th. Our team/squad is great on its day but we are drawing far to many games. Arsenal, spurs, Chelsea and even liverpool are stronger in depth. Newcastle will come stronger and push us to the end. We are fifth I feel because the usual teams have been so poor this year. I think if moyes doesn't sign I new deal (i hope he does) then Martinez is the next man I feel or even laudrup. Big name and a proper football man.
bluepaul {Ed025's Note - i cannot see newcastle being a threat to anyone paul..

I agree with most of what you say.
i really feel we missed the boat in this transfer window. look at what newcastle did. the lad who got the winner yesterday cost less than 2 mill.
i think moyes and KW farted about till the last minute as usual.
even Moyes admitted we left it late.
Moyes will go. but I wouldn't want martinez

stewillow

03 Feb 2013 20:14:13
for all you statisticians out there.
can anyone tell which is worst.
moyes record at old trafford or Anfield?
would be interested to know that's all.
i do remember us beating the mancs at OT but I think it was early 90s.
i was there that night we beat them 3-0
beardsley, mo johnston et al

stewillow

03 Feb 2013 18:23:27
Gotta say to all those Neville haters, if he plays yesterday I think we win the game. He doesn't play, Jags forced out of position and Jonny has his usual mare. stats don't lie. We pick up more points with him than without him.
Hank

03 Feb 2013 18:03:21
Dear BK.
Please sign either.
Leroy Fer
Ever Banega
Migel Veloso
Alvero Negrado
Ibrahim Affaley

Ever Banega for me mate! Closest I've seen to the best little spaniard we know

ChrisP

Ever Banega for me mate! Closest I've seen to the best little spaniard we know

ChrisP

03 Feb 2013 16:13:57
Is Aguero overated or is it just me? {Ed025's Note - its not just you..

He can produce special moments out of nothing though, just like that.

Watch the goal he scored against Liverpool today before you make your mind up - I think he's class anyway! Jlaff

03 Feb 2013 15:38:33
Have funny feeling the reds will beat city today hope am wrong but just got a feeling cus we drew yesterday

03 Feb 2013 15:33:50
Lewis holby looks good when coming on for spurs. another one that we was linked with that got away on the cheap!

Yes he reminded me of scholes always available for the ball and rarely loses possession saying that he was playing against 10 men time will tell, its just a shame the game is to much about money, it would make it that much sweeter if we got champs league though I think spurs might just have to much quality to catch them but if defoe is injured maybe they might miss his goals. I think we might have a better chance catching chelsea with rafa causing a bit of unrest imagine if we go to stamford bridge last game of the season to clinch top 4.

Robbie

03 Feb 2013 15:26:13
Just watched spurs and WBA
Holtby looked a really busy and tidy
Player. It's a shame really looks
A moyes type of player. ,,, {Ed025's Note - he does mate..

03 Feb 2013 14:41:47
Hi Ed, sorry to be a pain in the arse but can you rate these out of 10 happening please.

Moyes signing contract.
Stones RB vs Man Utd.
Jela playing with Vic 442.
Diame in summer.
Negrado in summer.
Reviving Fer deal.

Cheers Dan1 {Ed025's Note - 9..2..1..3..5..5..

I really wouldn't be surprised if we went back for Fer in the summer

03 Feb 2013 15:10:25
Just want to make a quick point. I'm not a manager of a Premier League football club but we were apparently ready to splash out 8.6 million on this Leeroy Fer and the likes of Sissoko and Holtby were available for less than 2 million? Surely our coaches and manager could see how great a deal that would of been?

03 Feb 2013 12:00:37
Looks like we've signed a new striker called Anichebie. The lad's playing well

Gods Doctor {Ed025's Note - he is on fire doc...keep it up vic..

What do you reckon happened with Anichebe to make the penny drop so emphatically? Who's had a word in his ear - Big Dunc perhaps, although he's working with the academy players.
Concerned Citizen

I reckon its because he is finally injury free and fair play to DM for sticking by him. Lads got long way to go like, but he could be class
Hank

03 Feb 2013 11:29:23
I always tend to glance over the scouse pages just to see what's getting said, and I notice more and more how your lot keep mentioning Chelsea, fair enough were having a bad season by are usual high standards but what bemuses me is how your all obsessed that we would be interested in moyes as are next manager, this guy has done absolutely nothing in the game, he's done we'll for your club I suppose but isn't ready to handle the big stage at a big club, he's never won a trophy or even played a single champions league game, so you can sleep easy as he won't even be considerd for the Chelsea post, I'd worry more about him ending up at the arse as they will want shut of whinger when they fail to make the champions league this season, a little like yourselves but at least he will be able to attract top players there and still won't have the pressure of having to win trophies which he is already accustomed to
Shed ed {Ed025's Note - you and benitez deserve each other!..a synthetic manager, in charge of a plastic club..

Haha champions of europe my arse

Chelsea big club haha, 1 of the worst away supports in the prem PADDOCKBLUE

Big club! I think you mean richer club!

EFCMike

Big club? still behind us in the trophy's won cabinet mate and we have won nothing for 17 years says it all really!

Just goes to show ed what these new 21st centuary supporters know about the game. CHELSEA, not a football club but a brand like 3 or 4 more. bought only to usher foreign tax money away from revenue authorities. soul sold. yeah they got a couple of bob, more luck to them, but nothing lasts forever. so mr high and mighty when it all comes falling down for chelski and it will, remember where you came from, nothing, and your going back there. back to your shed.

Surely you are mistaken and should check your facts. Everton did play champions league match, against villa real and were robbed by collina. granted it was the qualifiers for the group stage but if it was n't a champions league match then what would you call it. secondly all the Chelsea mentions are from quotes from the news papers and they are simply discussed on here. Third, have you forgot what life was like at Chelsea before you lot sold your soul and basically bought every trophee you have won. Fourth, I think Chelsea have caused more harm for the prem league than any other club. excessive transfer fees, excessive wages. for players that would not have had a chance with the everton and look teams back in the early mid 80s. Finally how much have Chelsea spent on transfer fees and wages this year alone, and how did you do in the fa cup, and where are you in the league. it's easy to spend money when you have lots of it, and buy support. but you can't by class, which is what everton fc and the fans have. jog on you dipstick! jlaff {Ed025's Note - right on jlaff..

Well reading some of the responses to my statement earlier I can see why your more illustrious neighbours call you lot the bitters to be honest because every response had a somewhat bitter taste to them, the best of all was the reply about you playing a champions league game. It was not a champions league game against villereal it was simply a qualifying match for the champions league proper, it's not and never will be classed as a champions league game! No champions league music, no champions league placards around the stadium and not even an official champions league match all, so before you spout off I advise you check your facts first sir because your statement is somewhat embarrassing.
Call I club what you want but each and everyone of you wish you were in are position, your not even the biggest club in merseyside never mind being a big club full stop.
I hope ed25 posts this as he has not posted my other replies about the mouhrino none sense becoming your manager one day, I don't think it's appreciated a different and what I would call correct opinion
Shed ed {Ed025's Note - i did post some replies on mouhrino, maybe yours were not up to scratch?...and good luck, with agent rafa at the helm..

With the money chelski have spent in the last 7 yrs or so we could probably have 3 top clubs, blues reds an another. If we were bitter we would n't get 40k fans a game. we support thick and thin. unlike you guys crying because you've got 3rd place. let's see how bitter you become when the money's gone and ra takes his dosh back to beet root soup land! By the way if you read my post properly you would see that I acknowledged it was a qualifying game. and qualifying hfor what? Champions league. You better crack on with your jellied eels mate. they will be easier to swallow than a few home truths. as I said earlier. jog on!

Sorry last post about jellied eels was jlaff {Ed025's Note - good response that mate..

There you go jlaff my friend, as I stated first of all before your contradictory response, you have never played a champions league game, you have not and more than likely never will see your team lining up as the champions league music belts out across the tanoy, and as for 40k turning up every week I think you'll find you we're struggling to fill your capacity each season until this year, it's easy to check, just google it my friend and I'm sure you will be blushing even more, as rafa once said your only a small club sir
Shed ed {Ed025's Note - now your even quoting the man!...i bet you were one of them with the "rafa out" banners at his first game?...and thats why no other fans have any respect for your club, or its supporters...your all as false as jordans tits!..

Look read this slowly it may help you understand. I. said. we. played. a. champdions. league. qualifier. read the first post. Now ask yourself this question. was it for the champions league competition? Yes it was. therefore that can be classed as a champions league game. try and tell the lower league teams that they ain't played in the fa cup because they got knocked out in the qualifiers. they are still fa cup games. now as a supporter all my life and attended Goodson all my life I can tell you that we get great crowds every week. not just this year. To help you out I should have said 'circa 40k'. it was n't intended to be an absolute. but in the interests of keeping the response short, and to not overload your capacity to digest this info. I did not. As an aside I have met Rafa. nice bloke. and I can tell you from meeting him that his English ain't perfect and his comment has been dragged out of context. but I'll let you interpret his words in which ever way makes you feel better about yourself sir. However we should not be so forgiving with you because IF YER KNEW YER HISTORY. you would remember that EFC was a founder member of the football league and that we have won many trophies. Whether your regurgitation of Rafas mis-interpreted opinion of EFC being a small club is true or not. I can live with it either way. we have a great history and a great support, and regardless our club is the people's clubs nod not some rich kids play thing ready to be dropped when he's bored. While your there looking at figures work out the average cost of every trophy you have won since RA took over. and your sare nowhere in the same class as our club. you can try and come back with some witty response (although I doubt it. there are more holes in your arguments than an aero). but please for your own sake worry about what your going to do when daddy cuts off the funding. I wonder will you still be going the match. jlaff {Ed025's Note - he will jlaff...but it will be milwall, or palace..where he used to go bmeefore roman came..

Ed. what gets me is that he spending quite a bit of time on our forum. maybe he's a closet blue nose? {Ed025's Note - we dont want guys like him mate..i dont think he,s the full shilling..

Well ed25 your right I don't want Benitez anywhere near my club, not because of his pedigree but because of his remarks about Chelsea while at looserpool, but he does have an impressive honours list, how would you feel about him taking the helm at everton after some of his comments about yourselves only being a small club? But in all honesty he is by far more of a higher calibre manager than moyes, you all claim about the wonders he has worked while other managers have done better at clubs of a similar stature to yourselves, red knapp winning the fa cup with Pompey and Hodgkin taking Fulham to the Uefa cup final spring to mind, do you really think everton are bigger than say 9 th or 10 th in size in the prem? Chelsea, utd, city, liverpool, arsenal, spurs, Newcastle, villa, Sunderland are all bigger clubs, I'm not talking trophies won donkeys years ago, but fan base, turnover, spending and attraction, outside of the prem everton are pretty anonymous, I'm sorry but the truth can hurt sometimes
Shed ed {Ed025's Note - we are a bigger club than you will ever be!..and have a history you can only dream of fella...

Ed, I want whatever Shed is smoking. I think he needs to think about his comments. is rafa a higher calibre manager than DM Or hasc he simply had more money at Valencia, Liverpool, Chelsea and Milan. I think I know the answer. red knapp spent a fortune at portsmouth and look what happened to them, then he bailed on them just like every other club that he's drained and bailed on. Tottenham saw through him. now newcastles fan base I give that. they also go topless in January when at the game. is there a theme developing here? Arsenal, good side big fan base, as have spurs etc. but what does any of that have todo with sheds original comment? Sunderland? Is he serious? let's go with his turnover. yup we have a relatively low turn over and spend far less on players and salaries. and today we are 5th. attraction? Chelsea may attract good players but that's because of the cash they offer. look at QPRs latest acquisitions was it the club they wanted to play for or the money. same can be said about Chelsea. that's the real truth. pains me to say it but there is only really one club with the attraction and kudos that this chap thinks Chelsea have. and that's Man U. Chelsea don't have that and maybe everton don't have that power now but I am not trying to convince myself or anyone else that we do. however the attraction EFC have is a good manager, good team spirit, and a chance to play first team prem football, rather than sitting on the bench whilst getting 120k a week at the supporters expense. ring any bells shed?. again more truth. stop embarrassing yourself and the real chelsea fans who know what they are talking about. because clearly you don't. jlaff

Your worse than looserpool always going on about your history, at least they have won major honours in the last decade and have a real history to crow about while your just ancient history, the difference is we're making history every single year and have been for the last decade, you all seem to forget we finished in champs league places the year before roman took over and Romans here to stay so we will always be looking down on you, just like we were before he arrived, and jlaff please read your last post slowly so as to stop embarrassing yourself further, a champs league qualifier is exactly what it says. A game you need to win to get into the champs league! Not a champs league game! Your fellow blues will be cringing at your deluded comments sir.
Shed ed

You're talking nonsense chelski boy. What's a 'correct opinion'? There's no such thing, it's an oxymoron, much like chelski and big club being in the same sentence. Some people remember your away support before that mafioso bought you, it was a joke, much like your club is now. Your club is an embarrassment, you can throw all the billions at but it won't bring you class, dignity, history, tradition, respect. etc, etc, etc.

Shed at least I don't keep changing my argument when I realize that the previous one was void of all coherence. I, ll go along with you because this has become boring to me now. yes lpool, won more, and if it make you feel better well class the qualifier game as a fa cup game. is that better for you, yes chelski may have finished in a CL spot before RA came along. and you've still won less! This is my last post on the matter as its taking up too much time and distracting me from reading the more intellectual comments that our posters usually provide. enjoy the exotic old hoburn. Jlaff

03 Feb 2013 11:11:01
Neville and howard both having a pop at fans. Moyes complaining about the fans reactions to substititions and selections, he also complained openly about the pitch. It just seems their is a lot of dissent in and around the club. I just lthink things are not that bad 5th in the league and 5th round of the cup. Think we all need to stick together and get behind the lads and the club as a whole. What do you think ed? {Ed025's Note - i think its poor to boo a substitution, or any individual player mate..

03 Feb 2013 10:05:26
comedy defending apart I thought we battered villa the whole game. all credit to the boys though for fighting to the end and nearly snatching it and for not letting there heads drop. one thing though jags must be put back into the centre. jimmy {Ed025's Note - i agree jimbo..

You sound like lfc supporter

03 Feb 2013 09:13:23
As DM hasn't signed the new contact, I'm speculating on who might become our manager if he leaves at the end of the season. No disrespect to other clubs' fans - or to our own fans' prejudices (!) - but here are some comments.
Roberto Martinez (Wigan): supposedly destined for a big club (European - Spanish perhaps?) so why come to Everton who have little money and haven't had regular CL/EL football.
Michael Laudrup (Swansea): great first season so far, but needs to be more than a one-season wonder.
Tony Pulis (Stoke): you might not like his team's style, but they're pretty much established now in the EPL. He's also part of a project in progress that's backed by his own very supportive chairman - very much like DM and BK at Everton (but without the transfer funds!).
A whole host of managerial failures, like Roy Keane: no way - they failed for a reason.
A whole host of ex-managers and ex-players who've been out of work for while and resorted to television punditry: there's a reason they've not been employed as managers for this length of time.
Any lower league bright young thing - like DM was when he joined from PNE: do we need to start from scratch all over again?
Any foreign coach: the experienced ones need big money and tend to stay only a few years; the inexperienced ones are just that, especially in the EPL.
Anyone currently coaching and/or still playing at Everton: even if someone was promoted from within (maybe with an older guiding hand - like a Kendall or Royle - supporting them in the background) would they have he necessary managerial experience to be the main man. Look what happened to Alan Irvine.
My suggestion would be to have Peter Reid as manager with Phil Neville as his number two and learning the job. Shoot me down in flames : -)
C. A. Jones

03 Feb 2013 12:12:02
Dont want Moyesee to go but he will one day

For me its simple Martinez or Laudrup with Phil on he coaching staff, both would jump at the chance as they would have total control

Both play cracking football

Degsy

I think they will go for Phil Neville. He seems to be an Everton man now and would also be a cheaper option

03 Feb 2013 08:31:45
With our club's low level of annual nett spending, we've done we'll to have progressed to be a club consistently in the top-half of the table - and even more so to be challenging for European spots - but imagine if we had to start again (following DM's increasingly likely - I wish I was wrong - departure) from where we were the end of the Agent Johnson and Walter Smith eras. Do you remember the players we had in the team/squad back then? Lots of distinctly average journeymen. and as for those big money players we did bring in (but couldn't really afford as it turned out!) - so many mercenary, ineffectual, lazy, time wasters, who didn't perform, but just took the money for a season or so and then couldn't wait to move on. And, even worse, what about those players who did fight for the cause, but were forced out to balance the books. Who remembers the grotesque situation when Big Dunc was transferred to NUFC behind the manager's back while an evening match was happening? That felt worse for me than when Rooney went to Manchester United or way back when Alan Ball (best Everton player during my fifty years as a supporter) left for Arsenal. With the big Sky money coming in - and so many other (dare I say "lesser" clubs) being funded by wealthy backers - we're not (without major new backers) going to be in the big (financially speaking) four/six group and we'll surely be under pressure even for regular top-half finishes. I respect BK - and I don't hold with anyone who says he gives less than 100% in his efforts for Everton - but there must be something fundamentally unsound at our club that makes it financially unattractive when so many other clubs are getting new investment. Also, too many other investors appear to be in it either to get their snouts in the trough and make a return, or treating their clubs as their rich men's hobbies. Either way, there's no apparent loyalty or trust in properly building the club from most of those sort of investors, which is unlike IMHO what DM and BK have been trying to do for ten years. It's just that we've now pretty much gone as far as we can with our shoestring budget and it's big decision time for them. Do you, the supporters, want to be a Man City or Chelsea. or do you want to still be the people's club, albeit with some better funding. or do you want an impatient owner who chops and changes and never allows some stability and continuity and consistency to develop? Final thought: we were the Merseyside Millionaires (bankrolled by Sir John Moores) fifty years ago, but, apart from a few trophies along the way, we couldn't make that investment guarantee us consistent success. Once. Blue, always a blue!
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - good read that sid...as always mate..

03 Feb 2013 08:09:04
I totally agree that Johnny had an awful game and he acknowledged it himself, but in his defense the guy hasn't had a look in this season he is bound to be low on confidence due to lack of game time. Everybody knows what he is capable of from last season. Look at Jelavic he has played nearly every game and has been poor compared to last year. Point is most people seem to still back Jelavic so let's do the same for Johnny. Booing our players is not going to help their confidence, so come on everyone let's get behind the boys and push them to bring champions league back to Goodison.

SydneyBlue

We spent 3mil on a kid if he had played we would have won. why split apartnership up like jags and distan what other manager would have done that.

03 Feb 2013 09:39:59
Personally I think Spurs and Arsenal are going to give us our biggest headaches in the chase for champions league.
Pressure is building on Benitez who has stated he would like Chelsea job full time. I think they may drop off pace a bit under the pressure of expectation. Don't get me wro. g they will be there or there abouts, but at take lamps out at the mo and where are their goals coming from?
It is going to be tight, but if we can get on a run of winning games the pressure turns on to the teams around us.

I hope the weight of expectation doesn't get to us. We have the talent and just need to cut out stupid mistakes.
Jonny H is not in the form of his life, but let's not be fickle as he was the fans player of the season last year.
He recognises his mistakes, so I don't think it helps anyone when we as fans get on their backs.
Keep the faith blues, support the team and hopefully we will get our rewards.
AW

Arsenal are favourites, no doubt were shooting ourselves in the foot all these draws jelovic is letting himself and down if he was on form we would be in with a chance but he isnt. on the plus side vics coming good please nickica find those scoring boots

03 Feb 2013 09:28:10
Cheers liam. ryan

03 Feb 2013 03:15:13
Fair play to Johnny. admitted he had a terrible game and apologised to the fans. not all players would do that. not his biggest fan but he goes up in my estimation after that. Think Oviedo will get better and better with opportunities. We have to be positive against United. its a big pitch and if Mirallas is match fit we could do well there.

Need to get behind johnny, he's been crap but so as Oman distin Felliani hadn't had a good game for a month until yesterday. the players need to be able to handle the pressure of chasing fourth place, but we as fans have a big part to play,. he's admitted and apologised about yesterday. let's move on

Fair play indeed to Heitinga for facing the camera and commenting on his poor defending, but this is the Premier League and professional players have to perform adequately on the pitch and surely must be dropped if they don't do so consistently well.
WonHungLo

03 Feb 2013 12:14:02
Second poster spot on mate

Degsy

03 Feb 2013 00:30:16
Moyes: "I'll leave when the fans don't want me".
Now, Moyes: "The fans weren't happy with my decisions at Bolton, West Brom or today".
Sense something here?

When was te first quote made jlaff

The first quote was made earlier this season