Everton Banter Archive July 31 2013

31 Jul 2013 23:21:16
Just a quick. Word on Barton, he may have had a good season in France and may have matured! Or was he just too far away from his cronies back in merseyside.
IMO, trouble trouble trouble, let's not forget how he behaves when he's out in the city centre and he'd be a target for every person out there, and no matter what the circumstances I can only see shame for our great club. The club listens to the fans and I hope these messages convey the feelings of the majority of us
Simply NO!

Big C

31 Jul 2013 21:40:55
i need help, the poster in everton 2 in city center, wit all the everton facts, 1st team to do that and so on, how do I get hold of one

31 Jul 2013 21:14:58
Who is kenny moyes's players he a agent and dm's brother and he was at out training session today

Do you know ed

Thanks
Wasy {Ed025's Note - i dont know of any ...sorry wasy..

31 Jul 2013 20:19:30
i can not believe the amount of people saying they would take joey barton! forget the fact the guy is a total person, he isn't even that good. he doesn't score. doesn't really create. he just runs around with 100% passion (which is a good thing I know). However he is not in the same league as felli and gibson, osman is better, barkley has the potential and is 10+years younger. so for what possible reason would we want him. he's a blue, he'd give 100% blah blah blah. osman's a blue, barkley's a blue, gibbo was singing grand old team so clearly loves the club. all these players are better than barton and to date have not had any problems with the law and if they suddenly start, they have a long way to go to catch up with him. and away from football we are everton football club. we have standards, traditions and ethics and I for one would feel let down by all at everton football club if we even entertained the idea of barton joining us, and for barton to feel he is doing us a favour by taking a pay cut to play for us tells us the type of bloke he is.

1878barlow {Ed025's Note - spot on for me barlow mate..

100% agree.

I'm with you on that one mate;
barton = rat

Blue22

31 Jul 2013 20:44:40
I agree, you only have to look at the comments on both boards to see what a devisive figure he is and on top of it all he's just not good enough to get in our team.

Agree everton are way too good to be even mentioned with players like barton. would any top 10 premier side consider barton, not a chance. everton need young players. for me mc carthy is the type of player for everton. good class player who at 22 has learned his trade at Wigan and will only get better

Anagram of barton=nobrat

31 Jul 2013 20:14:15
lads you have got to look at big nevs comments about barton there fantastic he is so funny ed you would love them mate stevie don

Big Nev has just ended his career. Barton will forever be known as Forest Gump. Love it.

31 Jul 2013 19:11:25
Had a long think about Barton, was feelin the same not wanting that kn#b at the club then I thought we took big dunc and sign'd him when he had a stretch to do in nick That was a risk and if you asked Paul shwaner he would of said that dunc was a thug but we knew that he had wound dunc up all game, then we had felli last season against shawcross we algreed it was justified But still did't complain about the punishment. Barton was a total person For years however think he done alright in France wasn't to bad does have a bit about him on the pitch both good and bad for free with a wage cut then okay but only if it was put into contract offer that 1 piece of severe il'disipline then your on your bike Mr Barton and think that will be the end of your career, however he's worth the risk but only with the contract stipulation.

31 Jul 2013 19:07:20
Lots of posts about Joey Barton. All I can say is that he used to be a very good footballer who lost the plot. Apparently he did well in France last season though. He is likely to get sent off once or twice. but so did Felli and a certain Uraguayan who apparently is worth 55 million. I would say it's up to Martinez, but I would bring him in for a medical, let him train with us for a week and take it from there. He may be a bit more mature now? Who knows? If he is, he will undoubtedly be worth a risk as a squad player. Ed025 I know you don't like him, but think logically as per my post and I am sure you will agree to some of it.
Degsypulford {Ed025's Note - for once i dont agree with any of it degs, for me it would devalue the credibility and respect people have for us, but thats just my opinion mate, others have theirs..

Thanks Ed but I still also think he is worth looking at. No more than that really. Peter Reid was a 2nd division injury prone has been when we signed him. Andy Gray had been written off too when we went for him. I would take a look and then if he looked like his old self from earlier days I would offer a rolling contract. No real risk to the club then. It's obvious he wants to come to the Blues. That's not the case with some players.
Degsypulford

31 Jul 2013 18:37:39
. its a shame big dunc still wernt playing him and barton to tuff bad boys on the pitch.

if you look at the team at moment who looks the toughest player? I. M. O its either felli or gibson

Have you ever seen victor anichebe? The man was mugged by two blokes and beat the cr*p out of both of them.

31 Jul 2013 20:54:05
You want tough try Steven Pienaar, one of the smallest players gets lumps kicked out of him every game by fellas twice his size, doesn't roll around, gets up and gets on with it without any reaction.
Add to that he's got to the top from the humblest of origins. That to me is tough!

31 Jul 2013 18:08:05
So Barton is a possibility? Question for you guys. Would you be happy if Barton signed, and we had £15m left to buy another striker, or would you rather £15m on McCarthy?

I'd go for Barton I'm afraid.

I'd go for Barton as well. I think we all know 15m is too much for McCarthy

McCarthy would represent a sound investment for £15m. He's still just 22 learning the game and will get better with age. He's a top class player right now and unless something went drastically awry we'd see at least a £20m return on him.
He will be one of the best all round midfielders in the game in a few years if he can impose himself on games a little more.
And he doesn't get involved in all the carry on Barton does.

31 Jul 2013 15:14:12
I personally believe if we could get joey Barton on a rolling 6 month 35k a week contract wed have a good player who run through a brick wall for everton yes he's a liabillaty at times but on a 6 month rolling contract if he misbehaves it could be torn up at anytime well worth a punt IMO imagine him felli and Gibson in a 3 man midfield scary ha :)

Barton, are you mad! He is always getting in to trouble, we would never have someone like that in our team. Oh wait a minute! And look how that certain individual is seen by the fans now, legend I think we call him and he still works for us now! Come on guys get a grip, Barton is a good footballer and has a passion for the club.

31 Jul 2013 16:58:25
Would set the club's fight against racism back 20 years.
Aside from that there is his behaviour when out in town. Anyone else would still be inside.
His behaviour towards a young Evertonian with a cigar.
His tedious tweets.
That strange french accent.
His showing his arse to the GP crowd.
He's +30 and not the greatest passer of a ball.
Just what we need!

As Big Nev said "we've already got a Kitman " Pmsl. :-))

Run forest Run!

I'm mixed raced and I really don't see the need to bring racism into the argument. Of all the things Barton has done I don't think any of them has been racially motivated so how would him signing him set the clubs fight against racism back?! you're spouting crap. {Ed025's Note - i agree, he was not part of the tragedy that happened to anthony walker, it was his relation, and he did condemn it..

He offered my mates lad £50 to pour a can of coke all over his own head once! That's the type of guy we are dealing with here. Full of his own self importance and sneering at anyone he thinks are below him.

31 Jul 2013 14:19:13
Manny Fernandes? 27, we have fond memories of him and he is in last year of contract at Besiktas so would be cheap. Linked with Sunderland. Would be less of a risk than 15 mill on McCarthy or any kind of Barton deal.

Just think nasty thug enough said.

Decent shout that. Showed moments of brilliance in short time he was with us but is he the same player after journeying around when he could have just signed for us years ago.

31 Jul 2013 13:48:26
Goin on about joey barton. 35k and on a free. What about the belgian powerhouse malanda. 18yr old not 30. available on a free and probably not even close to 35k a week. So he loves the club, big deal. I love the club but aren't asking for 35k off em. Be realistic. his moved to marseille failed to materialise and he got nothing else. stay at qpr then and cause trouble there

31 Jul 2013 13:33:34
Everyone is saying no to Barton he's an person etc agreed he is an person but the story is supposedly true why would we want to chase players like tom ince bad attitudes an in it for money when we could have some1 who would do everything he could on the pitch for the team he loves! he's not a bad player an if he keeps his nose clean he could be a great player for us. I know i'd die to wear the blue shirt an play at Goodison so maybe Barton is showing what it means to be a blue take a pay cut just for the chance to do that! and just remember 1 winner vs the reds he's an instant hero

31 Jul 2013 12:29:16
Personally I would take Barton. You have to ask yourself, will he Improve our squad?YES, would he give everything in a blue shirt?YES, can you go wrong with a wage cut and a free transfer?NO. What are your opinions? {Ed025's Note - steer well clear is mine..

This is a hard one, logic says stay well away, the man have proved himself to be a total person time after time. He could be totally disruptive to the squad. He may be a decent player, he may give 100% for us and offering to take such a pay cut does show commitment to the club, even so my initial reaction is no thanks Joey.

However, I am not our manager, and Robbie is not a fool, he knows what he would be taking on, if he thinks he can get the best out of him and that the risk is worth taking then I would have to back that decision much as I may disagree with it.

31 Jul 2013 12:00:52
Cant believe all the people who are in favor of giving Joey Barton a crack at the whip if all the rumours are to be believed. It doesn't matter how much he wants in wages the at the end of the day he on his own is capable of ruining a club like ours no matter what clauses are in his contract. Stay well clear of him I say far too much trouble!

31 Jul 2013 10:57:25
Joey Barton to Everton. haha

Did a RS pay him to say this. NO NO NO i'd rather have Peter Reid coming out of retirement (respectively)

31 Jul 2013 13:28:28
Should have come a few years ago then instead of going to QPR, we would have jumped at the chance then but yet again another footballer who went to the highest bidder.

Do one Joey, I for one don't ever want to see you in an Everton shirt, enjoy the Championship and twit off

Degsy

31 Jul 2013 09:43:44
Are some of our fans happy being 'also-rans'?

Joey Barton is a very good player and a box to boxer - which is what we need.

Everton does not have anywhere near financial power of other clubs so we can't be as choosy.

If he's keen to come and play for a club he actually supports then we could use that passion.

All you have to do is write into his contract that any funny stuff at all - even in training or to the staff or whatever - and he's gone.

Simple and effective - we get a good box to boxer who loves the club and he keeps his nose clean.

Is he not on a free? With wages at 35k he would be cost effective.

If we're going to take McCarthy at 12m plus say 60k wages, we could have the equivalent player in Barton and then the 12m on a top striker AS WELL.

We're not here to be nicey nicey losers, we're here to compete - other clubs have got problem players like Ballotelli or tevez or Suarez and they win stuff.
I reckon Barton would love to play for us and bust a gut every game - and if it's in his contract not to misbehave the one thing he won't do is misbehave.

If he does we've lost nothing by giving him a chance. {Ed025's Note - how about dignity..

B******* mate, he is a liability. People like him cannot help themselves, they don't just flick a switch and "behave" He will cause massive unrest in the dressing room, he'll be out on the lash in town causing girders of a weekend and he will be getting sent off left right and centre and banned for massive amounts of games at a time.

It's more about how he would be in the dressing room, we don't need a distraction or someone who has too much to say that unsettles all the other players. I would love the footballer Barton, but not the circus he is!

EverTheOptermistic

So just say to him - "Joey, you came to us - if you want to play for us you have to agree to these 6 points before we even start - no this, no that, no the other, - then. no ifs, no buts, and no maybes - are you still interested?"
I imagine he would agree to whatever we say because this is his last chance

as soon as he breaks any of those rules and does any of the things you've mentioned above - then he's out and it's cost us nothing

easy

if we had a choice between winning stuff and some so called dignity - (other clubs have bad boys too remember), I personally would take a few rough diamonds as long as they came with some silverware.

And he is an Evertonian remember - that might make all the difference to him and his attitude.

We need to win SOMETHING and we can't compete on the money side - so chances like this might be worth taking?

(pay him on a per game or per results basis or something - that should focus his mind)

Cannot say disagree. Barton is good player until he start making himself into trouble by people hitting, crazy tackle or referee argue.

31 Jul 2013 08:43:46
No No, Please God no. Don't let Everton show any interest in that animal Barton. {Ed025's Note - im with you micky..

Stop sucking up to Ed. Barton would be a great player for us let's go out and only buy players who are nice shall we? I say sign Barton up, just imagine him in the derby!

Forget sucking up to anyone. think of it this way. if you had your own company and a prospective employee with that record came to you. you would nt hire him. however just because its a footballer you would take him. as for 50% wage cut. if I earned 70 k I also could afford a 50% pay cut. the lads a menace. so the answer should be do-one. Bluejay

I'm thinking about him in the Derby and I see "sent off" written all over it. I cannot believe how desperate some of our fans are to make a signing, seems like anyone will do. Joey Barton is a t**head he'll cause trouble even if he tries his best not to. it's in him. Definately a massive MASSIVE no for me.

31 Jul 2013 06:56:29
We should buy McCarthy from Wigan but pay the £5-6m that he is worth.
We can add in some extra incentive installments like:

Win the Prem an extra £5m.
Win the FA Cup an extra £3m.
Win League Cup an extra £2.5m.
Win Champions League an extra £10m.
Score 30 league goals in a season an extra £2.5m.

That should keep Whelan happy and did you know that Whelan once broke his leg in an FA Cup final?

Andy The Chef. {Ed025's Note - love it andy..

Who in there right mind would do that we have chance of fa cup that's it Wigan won't agree to that

Good post but I think someone missed the sarcasm

Ah I've just read the reply properly I missed the sarcasm

I hope we have to pay Wigan 30m. by all trophy champions.