Everton Banter Archive June 29 2013

29 Jun 2013 21:49:50
Thank god a lot of you BK haters don't run our club we would be in deep s***. He can't publicly state Baines is going nowhere because for 95% of clubs everyplayer has his price, if man u suddenly offered 20-25 mill for baines and he wants to go we would find it hard to resist then he would look a right tit. So far he has jakelee the moyes resignation and transfer speculation very well. With a small budget like ours we cannot afford to broadcast our targets there are too many clubs Who can outbid us. Yea he ca can be a drama queen that's just the way he is, Have a bit of patience and get behind him he wants what's best for our club
Blue60

Well said mate

29 Jun 2013 20:44:55
Correct me if I'm wrong but who would you rather have up front Kone or Remy? Remy. thought so, Martinez just spend an extra 1.5m to activate the release clause in Remy's contract instead of spending 6.5m on Kone who is not getting any younger. Give us what we want Martinez Ed? EFCKEN

29 Jun 2013 22:01:07
Remy. thought not, Martinez just spend 1.5m less on Kone. Remy who is not getting any younger. Give us what we want Martinez

I'd rather stick with jelly. I hope having a more attack minded manager will bring out the best of him. He was awesome when he first joined us, in that rare time we did attack teams. Blue Lee

We attacked teams most at the start of this season, we completely dominated some matches but couldn't get more than 1 goal

U done the same extact same statement the other day, I personally wouldn't sign someone being investigated by the police, but I suppose you could see if jim will fix it for you

29 Jun 2013 23:54:10
Isn't that the fourth time you have posted that in 2 days? Boring now mate and kone any day

I've never met anyone who is getting any younger

We did attack teams, but most the attacking was long, high, hopeful balls to fellani, where as I think/hope RM will play it on the deck, which will help jelly.

29 Jun 2013 19:55:15
More LUVVY DUVVY OSCAR stuff from BK. Just give it a rest, Let the manager do the talking, Get in the back seat. If RM is in love with EFC, let him say it. You melodramatic egit!

Was thinking exactly the same thing biffy, the man is an embarrassment imo. i'm fed up with all the drama queen sh*te. The headline I wanted to see today on the back of the red echo was a statement of intention along the lines of Baines is going nowhere not for sale at any price full stop do one ginge or something like that. The eds wouldn't post my reaction to what i'd like to say about that offer from united and moyes.

29 Jun 2013 18:12:59
We should go for aubameyang 15m honda 5 douglas free and sinclair on loan keep baines an fellini an just let the fringe pkayers leave

I like the sound of that, not going to lie. Imagine this as our starting XI:

Howard
Douglas Jagielka Distin
Coleman Honda Fellaini Gibson Baines
Mirallas Aubameyang

Bench:
New GK (Mucha's gone)
Heitinga
Duffy
Barkley
Sinclair
Pienaar
Jelavic

29 Jun 2013 16:26:28
Noticed a few people over the past few days have mentioned selling Magaye Gueye in this window, with a couple of different valuations, but I think his contract is up on July 1st, so we may lose him on a free.

It's not. Hits and Nev are leaving, as well as Mucha. If he wasn't in the 'released players' listing, which he's not, then he is staying.

*Hitz*

Bless you.

29 Jun 2013 16:02:13
Tim Howard really needs someone to keep him on his toes and, fair play to Timmy for coming back from injury so quickly, but if he gets injured again our options are poor. We could do a lot worse than Espanyol's keeper Kiko Casella, who is apparently only about £1M. I think he's better than Turnbull, even though he'd be on a free. Any other thoughts blues?

There is a world class free agent out there that can do a cracking job. A man with 35 international caps to his name, a man who produces match winning performances game in, game out, making wonder save after wonder save. A man who has been regarded by his peers as a true colossal amongst mere mortals. We will need to snap him up quick though as Barca and Real Madrid are meant to be closing in.

Mike

Fabian giefer from dussledorf he's only 22 I think aswell

29 Jun 2013 20:01:07
Mucha has gone mike that ship has sailed GET OVER IT! :)

Ok, so I'm clear that he's a man, which is a bonus, Mike, but I'm not picking up what you're laying down. Who is this masked man, who can save our little village goalmouth? Does Clint Eastwood play in goal? Seriously, we're not talking pepe reina here, are we? Sorry if I'm being slow on the uptake!

29 Jun 2013 15:38:20
Correct me if I'm wrong but who would you rather have up front Kone or Remy? Remy. thought so, Martinez just spend an extra 1.5m to activate the release clause in Remy's contract instead of spending 6.5m on Kone who is not getting any younger. Give us what we want Martinez Ed?

Yes but isn't remy possibly getting banged up not sure i'd want to risk the fee on someone whos not going to be able to play for most of his contract unless there been developments on his situation that I've missed.

29 Jun 2013 13:35:00
Not a rumour just pointing out that Cristian Tello is refusing to sign a new contract at Barcalona and has only a 10m euro buy out clause. Would be an absolute bargain at that price.
RickTee

Agreed but all the big boys would want him and would offer far bigger wages and a shot at the champions league

29 Jun 2013 13:26:26
My hopeful team for 2013/2014

Howard
Coleman Jags/Duffy Distin/Alcatraz Baines

Fellaini Fer


Mirallas Honda Redmond/Pienarr
Bony
Ins:
Bony 10m
Fer 8m
Redmond 8m
Honda 4m
TOTAL: 30M
Outs:
Heitinga 4m
Gueye 1m
Anichebe 6m
TOTAL: 11M
11mil selling plus the TV money and maybe a bit of cash that Big Bill could stump up then that would make a top 4 team easily! Plus the young prospects we have such as Barklay, Junior, Stones and Duffy, then we are all but sorted for the future!
Good times ahead!

EFCMichael

Bony's off to Swansea. Your sums are a bit out on the others. We will never get anywhere near £6M for Vic and Redmond is available for around £2-£3M

Redmond won't cost £8m. Norwich and the Swans had £2m bids accepted. Plus you have to think about wages, etc. so if we had £30m to spend, roughly, depending on the players, we would have probably about £20m to spend on the transfer fees. Redmond won't be as much in wages as, say, Honda.

Sorry don't know why I put 8mil I know Redmond was 2-3mil

29 Jun 2013 12:42:13
I'd happily sacrifice Fellaini for Honda, Aubameyang, Koné, Fer and Redmond.

Bit harsh, why not just sell him?

Mike

Good one mike, tickled me that!

TC

Nah, I go with Mike on this one. We could throw a party and all get dressed in coloured robes and sing evil disturbing chants. Or we could do that every Saturday just like last season!
Degsypulford

Sell him? He might score against us!

As if you would get all them players for selling felli

29 Jun 2013 12:11:41
i feel we will have 40- 60 million if baines and felli leave PKBLUE

Either Bainsey or Felli, Jonny and Gaeye enough for Smithie, Manga, Diame, Redmond, Aubemeyang and Felli or Bainsey replacement.

29 Jun 2013 10:33:16
We should start signing players now, look what happened last season. We missed out on Butland and now we are desperate for a decent backup for Howard!

We don't need a decent backup, we need a better goalkeeper so that Howard becomes the backup.

Mike

But land is too good to be a back up keeper. Who is going to want to sit on the bench for the whole season only an old timer or a youngster what's wrong with Springthorpe

What's wrong with Springthorpe? He's a non-league quality keeper, Wigan's third keeper's better than him.

29 Jun 2013 10:00:17
i think baines is a great player BUT I would sell him for 16 mill plus he's 29 soon and if rm will get the money we should be ok why not give oviedo a chance there. bring in mc. carthy.

29 Jun 2013 11:50:06
16m are you on something mate? He has another 4 years left in him and is the best left back in the world plus tbh mccarthy will be sold for closer to 20m then 15m so no keep baines regardless of the price

I think the asking price should be at least 25 million+ for the best lb in the world PKBLUE

Take £16m and Buttner he looks ok

30 Jun 2013 08:00:19
no blueskittle am on nothing mate its business baines a top player but 16/20 mill I would sell him I think oveido could do a good job there giving time then we ave 20 mill to get top striker and midfielder.

29 Jun 2013 10:54:16
Thought Moyes had a verbal agreement with Bill that he wouldn't bid for our players unless someone else does first?

Has someone else bid for Bainesy or has DM gone back on his word?

29 Jun 2013 08:51:54
Ed any news on any realistic targets and who are they?

Thanks
Wasy {Ed025's Note - honda is 50/50 wasy, us or milan, and its not down to money, but personal choice..he has said he wants to play in the EPL, so the signs are very positive...we are after kone, it will be a money issue though, and fer is still on the radar, but may depend on whether or not fellaini leaves mate..

29 Jun 2013 08:48:46
If Fellani and Baines are sold of about 40 million perhaps how much of that will be put back into new players ed? {Ed025's Note - most of it i expect mate, although the BK haters will no doubt say he will pocket most of it..

If bill sells baines I won't forgive him. the player dosent want to go. The chairman has said he won't sell. it would seriously weaken are team. Bill can't sell him be undermining Martinez straight away. everything about this deal would weaken everton and create a really negative start to the season. u can't keep selling your best players. , just say no

Plus at the moment we got 15 to 20 m to spend with TV money and where we finished in the league

Baines doesn't want to go? Do you honestly believe that Baines, if approached by Manchester United, would rather stay with Everton than go there? You are sadly mistaken. Players always say they're happy, that they don't want to move. That's what they have to say. He's 28 years old. If you get offered close to 20 million up front, then we can't turn that down. He's not irreplaceable. I've been in a similar position as you are in with my club. Players saying they're happy then jumping ship as soon as an offer comes in. It's no disrespect to Everton. But Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, maybe even Bayern Munich, if they come knocking, you listen.

Chimney sweep Josh (arsenal fan)

Ed r u on kenwrights payroll. kenwright needs to grow a pair. he's stated three weeks ago no players will be sold. tell united to **** off. u think we'd invest in better players, like who. look at the Martinez press conference. these are his words Weil help roberto in transfer Market. if david try's to get Leighton he's got no chance. for once be true to your words. the man is a {Ed025's Note - i thought he had done!..you need to get a grip!..

29 Jun 2013 01:55:23
Hi Ed0025, I take it you've had an afternoon off. I was just wondering if Ed04, who's been editing this aft, is a Manchester United fan? The reason I ask is that I sent a post earlier about things I'd like Bainsey to hear from us fans about recent events. Without going into all the details again, I basically said that him being one of the 3 best left backs in world football he should only consider leaving for one of the really big clubs, e. g. Real, Barca or Juve, & that Utd aren't in that category. I also said that I felt there was a good chance that if Utd were only mid table at xmas, Moysie might be sacked. I remarked that the Man U fans & the media were the ones that had brainwashed themselves that Utd were the biggest club in the world.
You know my posts, I never use offensive language & I didn't throw in any nasty insults, I just told it as I see it. For the first time in a long time my post didn't appear. Is Ed04 one of those people who won't hear anything said against Man U & expect everyone to fawn & pontificate about them. If that's the case, I'd rather not have him anywhere near our site! {Ed025's Note - he is actually the celtic ed tezza, but does follow utd as well mate. he is usually very fair though, and has edited this site on numerous occasions, you may have touched a raw nerve there, but he is well respected among the other eds, and when im at work is good enough to keep the page updated, no one likes to hear their club being trashed, so just put it down to a conflict of interests mate..

Your post is on here tezza. just read it

29 Jun 2013 01:20:32
Imagine if we signed fer, Honda, aubeymeyang and manga only selling Heitinga and gueye. It wouldn't even cost a lot if money either. Dreams. Maybe Sinclair on loan

No just about 40 mil as fer is 8-10 mil, honda is 5 mil and aubeymeyang is 15-20mil. sinclair even more money
heitenga 3. 5- 5 mil, gueye 4-6 mil, and let's say we have a 10 mil budget do the maths

29 Jun 2013 00:55:37
I remember seeing a post from Ed0025 on here saying that some of the players read these pages. If that's the case, then if, by any chance, Baisey's online, I'd like to put this to him :-

Bainsey, you can see from the posts on here how much us Everton fans love having you at our club. I've no idea how it must feel to be in your postition & have your talent, but I can understand that winning trophies is important to a player. Therefore it must be a bit overwhelming when all the speculation about your future starts. Anyway, as far as Manchester United are concerned, I'd like you to consider this. By common consent, you are now regarded as one of the top 3-5 left backs in world football, (imo top 3), so isn't it logical that if you are going to move on it should be to one of the top 3 clubs in the world. Therefore IF Real Madrid, Barcelona or Juventus come calling, I can see the temptation. Even when we get into the top 5 clubs, adding Bayern & Milan to this list, it would still be tempting, but NOT Man Utd. Their fans & the media have brainwashed themselves into believing that are the biggest club - not so.

Also consider the position there if, & it is a strong likeliehood, after 10 games next season they are mid-table. Moysie has no chance of getting the leeway Ferguson had 20 years ago - he'll be down the road. What happens then?
So, mate, have a bit of patience & let's see what next season brings for us with RM in charge. Please God it doesn't happen, but if we are struggling & a really big club comes in for you, I'm sure if you go, you'll leave with the best wishes of all true Evertonians.

I agree with you mate. If both Baines and Fellaini leave Everton this year, the summer will turn to be pretty ugly for you, no matter who you buy. If Manchester United value Rooney at 35 mil. , Nani 20 mil. , then Baines is surely worth 25-30 mil. Good luck next year hope you have a great season.

Baines doesn't want to go. kenwright apparently seething about utd trying to unsettle him. everton need to stay strong say no. moyes knows evertons situation and the way bill conducts his business. kenwright needs to stand up or his position will be weakened not only with everton fans but with other clubs. this could be s good thing, moyes is showing a ruthless attitude, bill needs to act get baines on a new contract, and tell utd to piss off

29 Jun 2013 00:09:21
Martinez seems to be all over the place according to rumours on here I know it's a rumour site but let's keep it a bit realistic so far we have made bids for 3 or 4 payers interested in about 20 players all over the globe and we have had arsenal offer felleni move and now utd bid for baines which does seem realistic I think we should sign honda kone alcaraz fer and Maloney sell heitinga and guaye and then take the phone off the hook until transfer window closes which then felleni's clause would be ruled out and then we can get more providing he performs then we get higher price and can bring in that big name striker for long term kone could surprise you I know he is coming up 30 but has 2 good seasons left I could see him scoring 15 a season so if he can score that back to back seasons then 6million would be a bargain you can't get a lot for that much these days