Everton Banter Archive April 29 2016

 

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29 Apr 2016 20:51:28
Should be good at demo he's done it to us.

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{Ed025's Note - i like that baldy..

29 Apr 2016 20:50:50
Love to bring Rooney back, Barkley could learn a lot from him and in my opinion is there a better midfielder out there that covers so much ground and can pass a ball across field, would be a class signing, and a great captain. all you haters out there just watch him in a game and tell me he don't put a shift in. wages will be a stumbling block but if you don't try you don't get. he is a blue and i for one would welcome him back. always been proud that he is a blue at heart.

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30 Apr 2016 06:44:52
I agree whole heartedly about his ability, but he is still in demand by many. Our chances would be slim at best.

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29 Apr 2016 19:52:08
There's surely little doubt that the club - directors and major shareholders - will be taking the advice of experts about the way forward re the stadium, commercial deals, and all other relevant matters. That surely also goes for the manager's position - not only whether to retain RM, but also (which seems likely now) who will replace him. I wonder which experts are being consulted. Every fan and pundit seems to have an opinion (usually ill-informed and often biased! ) , but who are the football people out there that really do know the strengths of those managers/ coaches that are available, interested, and obtainable and who of these experts would be absolutely trusted by those at our club who are responsible for spending the money?

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29 Apr 2016 17:46:14
Why do some people feel the need to tear in to our players at any given opportunity? isn't right. Imagine playing for the club you support for years, one of the first names on the starting sheet, then wanting to leave because Mike from Huyton is booing you every home game because he thinks you don't pass the ball quick enough. don't deserve some of the players we have, at times.

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29 Apr 2016 18:09:06
personally don't H but can see why, if you skint yourself week in week out to watch your team and one of the players is on 50k a week and not performing then he could get stick.

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29 Apr 2016 18:43:57
Wasnt naming anyone specifically there (except Mike from Huyton) so apologies if it seemed that way.

I can understand why its important to be critical, and how it must be frustrating for some of the fans when a player seems to be underperforming regularly, but it seems to get excessive on here a lot; even seen suggestions that we should get rid of Ross and Rom, 2 of our most important players, after a run of a few bad games!

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29 Apr 2016 18:45:53
There's a difference between getting stick and the venom that some of the fans come out with.
You only have to read some of the posts on here to see what I mean.

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29 Apr 2016 19:05:03
We do not deserve to have Ross and would not blame the lad for leaving, the stick he gets is unbelievable.

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29 Apr 2016 19:43:55
Spot on Hugo. Far too much negativity on the terraces toward the team and it's no coincidence that our home form is bad

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29 Apr 2016 19:20:40
I'm one of these people who think he should pass the ball earlier, but never once have I booed him.
I think he's a very good player, but I also think he could be twice the player he is if he did pass it earlier.
But booing won't make him do it, that will destroy his confidence.
I think it's up to the manager to sort out this part of his game. Another clanger from RM I think.
While we're on the subject, I also think Romelu needs to improve his ball control.
Neither of these players have improved in their respective departments since they've been playing for us, and that is bad management of what are great assets.
Any half decent maager would by now have had Romelu trapping the ball on a sixpence and I bet he's done zero work on this since he's been here.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree on the ross part frank but i think rom has improved his game since joining us, his first touch has actually improved which was not hard as he could not trap a bag of cement when he came, my beef with him is that since all this transfer talk he has been lacklustre bordering on bone idle mate..

29 Apr 2016 20:13:19
Ok Ed I'll give you that, but could do much better.
I fear he will get a really bad injury one of these days. I mean when he's trying to control the ball it goes a yard or two away from him an it leaves him open to 50/ 50 challenges quite often.
To be honest I thought Rom was lazy when he came and I never liked him. But a taxi driver said to me, 'what would you rather have, a forward who runs out to the wings like a headless chicken, or someone who does nothing but gets goals' I changed my mind about him that day.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont worry about him getting injured frank, that will be someone else,s problem next season mate..

30 Apr 2016 00:23:45
I watched the video of Ross at half time at Wembley and he needed his spirits lifting because he thought our fans were booing him. At the end of the day he can't do it all on his own, tactics play a part and as Ed025 says, Rom has decided he wants out judging his body language. is love to be able to pull on the royal blue jersey and I know if my own fans boo'd me my heart would sink into my stomach. let's just stop the slagging and get behind the team. we can boo them til the cows come home against Bournemouth but for what? . The chance to slag the team off again if things go against us. we are supporters. Let's support the club and players.

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30 Apr 2016 06:53:34
I aalready pointed out that too much responsibility was placed on both Barkle and Stones by the current manager. I read daft comments on here 2 years ago about Moyes holding young players back and how RM was giving them a chance and how great things were. I laughed at the time because Moyes signed Stones and also gave Barkley his debut. RM then started picking both every game and I watched 2 young men maturing into first team players but worried about the weight on their shoulders. Both should have been rested long ago and slowly integrated into the first team. It is no coincidence that these 2 and Lukaku are the young ones in the team and also the ones we are discussing with regards to form and effort. Being a first team player is difficult in League 2. Being a first team player at Everton FC is a responsibility for the strongest of characters.

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29 Apr 2016 16:38:31
Ross Barkley supposedly stalling on a new contract

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29 Apr 2016 17:03:00
good. get rid. how many times can one player give the ball away in each game, every game.
Clearly not a No. 10, he may be better playing in a deeper position but we have McCarthy and Besic for that.
Sell him and buy a creative No.10 who can pass the ball to another Everton player.

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29 Apr 2016 17:38:33
Could not disagree more Paul. What you need to remember that Ross is a young lad, who for most of the season has been carrying not only the burden of expectation but also a poor team on his shoulders. Him and Lukaku are solely relied on for creativity in the team, and between them they have scored roughly 2/ 3 of our total goals this season.

His return of (roughly) 13 goals and 8 assists is good for a bottom half team, which unfortunately is what we are this season.

Is it any wonder he is stalling on a new contract when he's getting this kind of criticism. I've always thought of us Evertonians as better than Kopites. They always spit their dummies out, protests etc, while we remain respectful and dignified. Apparently we are just as bad as them.

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29 Apr 2016 18:01:31
Take away the goals and assists of Ross and we would be in more of a rut than we currently are don't you think Paul? He is one of the few that drives forward in games but yes he does have his weaknesses. He just needs better guidance on the field from his manager.
Can't be nice being a local lad, playing for the team he supports, and taking the brunt of the fans anger. The vid of him and Jags illustrates how the fans can have a negative affect, he hears boos and automatically thinks it's for him. Whether we like the manager or not, we should still support the players when they cross that line.

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29 Apr 2016 18:15:03
I really hope Ross stays at Everton . I think we the fans are being a bit to quick to criticise the lad if we see are selfs at footballing people surely we can see that this lad is the future of this club . He could soon be are only England international at the club if stones moves on jags retires baines not in contention it will be his face selling the Everton brand. Its also important to realise this lads one of our own its important that the best scouse footballers come through their local academies and make there first teams as we have always tried to do (Ball Jeffers osman Rooney Hibbert ) although this time we don't have to sell the Crown Jewels to stay afloat. I would be gutted if we loose stones and lukaku who I think will both get offered new terms but would be devastated if we lost Ross his stats this year stil stack up and with better instruction from a new manager and fresh players around him he will push on even further sometimes us blues should be carefull what we whish for.

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29 Apr 2016 18:19:41
Looking at the lad through blinkers. He has one of his best seasons ever, the stats don't lie. Roberto has them doing mostly ball work so inevitably the fitness will drop off a bit. Something has to give so maybe what some are seeing as laziness is actually being knackered. Delboy is also a good player but does not track back but he doesn't get half the criticism. Likewise Lukaku, he plays on his own up front against top of their profession defenders, he is going to get knackered as well. Some of the criticism has to be put into perspective.

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29 Apr 2016 18:25:02
Ross is feeling the "Booooos"
You happy now?
Hope it's just a manager problem but let's face it, you 2 bobbers who boo him because he can't be the catalyst in a bad team should be ashamed.

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29 Apr 2016 18:27:01
What next?
Kieron dowell diesnt score a hatrick on his debut so he's rubbish?
We all want RM gone but we need to make sure our expectancy meets the confidence of these young players
How old's Ross again?!

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29 Apr 2016 19:11:17
The ones supporting Ross well done. I put up here the other ay about how his contribution this season has been the greatest by a midfielder since the 80's. 12 goals and 10 assists in total this season.

Some people just don't realise what he has done. As for booing him? It just doesn't make sense.

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29 Apr 2016 19:48:29
I personally think Barkley is being made the scapegoat for some of our problems, our midfield is painfully slow at moving the ball, barry and Mcarthy are that pedestrian in possession that it slows our whole tempo down, Ross need the ball 0layed into him fast, the football needs to be fast, but I am afraid the main culprit is James Mcarthy .

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{Ed025's Note - the main culprit is bobby danny, he plays two defensive mids even at home and asks the players to play tippy tappy rubbish and thats where the problem lies for me mate..

29 Apr 2016 22:09:51
Barkleys biggest problem is when he drops back to get the ball it's 10 yards inside his own half so he, s got 60 odd yard to try n drive the ball forward. its not his fault its the to defensive midfielders rm plays with so ross is knackered by the 70 minute mark all because McCarthy or Barry won't pass the ball forward 15/ 20 yards.

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30 Apr 2016 08:16:51
Totally agree ed that's why Bobby frustrates me so much, he has a total football philosophy that he's trying to shape on xavi, iniesta and busquets but tries to do this with Barry, macca and cleverly who is more suited to a moyes style of play!

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{Ed025's Note - your right longy..

30 Apr 2016 08:16:51
Totally agree ed that's why Bobby frustrates me so much, he has a total football philosophy that he's trying to shape on xavi, iniesta and busquets but tries to do this with Barry, macca and cleverly who is more suited to a moyes style of play!

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{Ed025's Note - your right longy..

29 Apr 2016 15:44:28
I am very happy for the Leicester supporters. If I had a ticket for the game with Everton I would give it to a deserving Leicester supporter. I was at Goodison for the final game of the 1962-63 season. We won 14 games at home and drew 7 with no defeats. The final game was won 4-1 with Roy Vernon getting a hat-trick. What a fantastic feeling watching the team parade around the pitch after the game. Attendance was just over 60,000. Good luck to the Leicester team and fans, what a fantastic season they have had,
Mike.

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29 Apr 2016 12:41:54
martinez sacked, youngsters showing us what they got, IT COULD BE A GOOD WEEKEND TO STAY IN AFTER HAVING MY WISDOM TOOTH REMOVED YESTERDAY (STILL NOT AS MUCH PAIN AS BEING AN EVERTONIAN THIS SEASON)

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29 Apr 2016 13:42:55
You can but dream. My take on it is that if he does go it will not be before the end of the season. He is apparently having talks today and he does talk a good game.

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29 Apr 2016 13:59:04
SHML

His results this season talk louder mate.

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29 Apr 2016 12:28:45
Just heard that some of you Toffee's will be giving tickets back to the Leicester fan's so they can see their team celebrate the PL title.

Despite a turbulent season, classy gesture from a class club with class fan's.

Respect to all those associated with EFC.

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29 Apr 2016 14:01:12
Cheers Dag.

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29 Apr 2016 15:19:49
If it was spurs they would sell the tickets and not at face value!

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29 Apr 2016 12:25:57
Having watched Catterick's youngsters of the 1960s and seen them mature into great, great players and play beautiful football the Everton way, it is very difficult to watch what we have these days.
RM will be gone sooner or later and our club will go on forever.
I know managers can't just throw young players in and expect them to compete against seasoned internationals these days but they deserve more than a couple of minutes of injury time.
Connolly and Davies looked the part and Browning played well against the reds a while back.

Who would we like to see start in our remaining games?
Dowell instead of Lukaku, Gethin at right back and Holgate at centre back would do for me.

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29 Apr 2016 09:36:40
Folks I know emotions are running high at the moment and there are plans to voice our displeasure at tomorrows match but please let's not do anything that's going to show the club and the fans in a bad light, especially throwing things (tennis balls? ) onto the pitch.
Apart from making us look like idiots it puts the club at risk of punishment from the FA as well as the risk of anyone caught getting a lengthy ban from going to the game.

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29 Apr 2016 09:45:49
Hope we don't throw a tennis ball at lukaku, imagine him trying to control that!

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{Ed002's Note - Don't worry, he will be gone soon so you won't need to trash him any longer.}

29 Apr 2016 09:51:47
I agree, we are Everton and even if I say it myself we are a well respected club with great fans.
I hope our reputation doesn't take a blow tomorrow.

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29 Apr 2016 10:03:24
Any protest that is to the teams detriment must be abandoned I have and never will advocate planned vocal dissent during matches!

Cutting my nose off to spite my face is not my idea of common sense.

The fans and this includes me should let their feelings be known after matches and between matches.

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29 Apr 2016 12:08:04
So we protest at half time or full time to an empty touch line and an empty directors box?

Brilliant.

Or do you think they'll hang around for a bit just to accept the wrath of the crowd before heading down for their pre-ordered drinks?

GET Real.

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29 Apr 2016 13:57:11
I personally think it's better to be a real fan than a real whinging child.

Just sayin like ;)

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29 Apr 2016 15:22:11
I would just rather whole heartedly support the team irrespective of any feelings for the manager and let those who want out see what they will be missing!

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29 Apr 2016 19:40:46
Blue247 - It seems to me the 'real fans' are willing to act on behalf of our club rather than sit back in silence and do nothing.

Id rather be classed as (in your eyes), "a real whinging child" than one of bobby's 'real fans' who sees what he sees.

And what on earth does 'Cutting my nose off to spite my face is not my idea of common sense.' mean in this context? Did you just think of a phrase and thought you would use it?

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30 Apr 2016 07:41:19
Cletus Spuckler

You created an ID just for little old me? thanks mate;) )

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29 Apr 2016 08:58:11
Just read about an Everton supporter giving his tickets for the Leicester game away to a father and 9 year old son who are Leicester fans and couldn't afford the ludicrous tout prices. This outlines what is good about us Evertonians and scousers in general. Kind gesture and a great idea. We have an allocation of 3000 tickets for a game which can see Leicester crowned champions I for one agree with the gesture and will be passing my ticket on for face value to a leicester fan to witness something that may never happen in there lifetime.

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29 Apr 2016 09:12:25
Said the other day a mate of mine suggested Everton giving their whole ticket allocation back to Leicester so that their fans can witness what is probably going to be a once in lifetime thing. I also hope they beat us so the spuds don't win it.

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29 Apr 2016 09:16:01
Magnanimous.

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29 Apr 2016 09:29:49
Once we get over 43 points I'll agree as it stands if the 'near impossible' happened to Norwich and Sunderland we are not safe!

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29 Apr 2016 09:52:47
Nice, proud to be a blue and this makes it even more so, well done you whoever you are.

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29 Apr 2016 12:19:09
If it kicks off because we win (lol) and upset their big day what will you say to the really loyal blues that don't give their tickets away and just want to go the game to watch Everton?

IF it had been decided to reduce our allocation then fine as segregation could have been sorted but the club chose to accept the allocation. Everton fans will now be in a position were their safety cannot be assured inside the stadium. not acceptable in any way.

Anyone found to have given or sold their tickets to Leicester fans should be banned from away games for putting our own fans at risk. however minor that risk may be.

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29 Apr 2016 13:30:26
I said it would be nice if our fans gave their allocation up just over a week ago on here. I got shot down from some saying we never miss a game, fully understandable, but for once its a dead rubber for us, a once in a lifetime for Leicester fans, and a two fingers up to the touts, trying to cash in at the ordinary fans expense, hope more of our fans do a very noble sacrifice.

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29 Apr 2016 15:48:03
You're just a charmer BlueMac. Seems you'll have a protest at anything!

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29 Apr 2016 07:17:50
Some talk of EFC Board Meeting today.
It could go different ways.

Vote of confidence will surely wind up the demonstration risk tomorrow.

Will view the Managers position at the end of the season (most likely? ) . Will that stave off demo's?

Sacked, Unsworth/ Ferguson step in as Caretakers?

Thoughts?

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29 Apr 2016 09:01:39
Not expecting we will be told anything.

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29 Apr 2016 09:18:35
Ah yes hadn't thought of that option!
As we were then.

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29 Apr 2016 09:30:10
I think he will be sacked today. That's if the reports of a board meeting are correct
Why wait.
Get him out and start looking elsewhere, and we may, just may, have a chance of keeping our best players.
Wait until the end of the season and their minds could already be made up by then.

At least this way a new Manager would have a chance to speak to Romelu and Ross.
As for Stones, I'd bite their hand off if someone offers over 40M for him.
Although with Stones, I do wonder if he is overrated or has Martinez destroyed his confidence and if a half decent Manager could get in his head and sort him out.
Something tells me he's just overrated.

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29 Apr 2016 09:54:24
Certainly don't think Stones is overrated. Many managers in premiership would love to have him in their squad. What is lacking is either good coaching or play in position other posters have mentioned in front of CBs.

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29 Apr 2016 13:34:11
If there is a meeting and if they are discussing Martinez, why sack him today, that is just stupidity. At this stage nothing to gain nothing to lose, they will wait until Season end that is the common sense approach. And if termination is the intent no doubt they have taken advice and have a replacement in mind.

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29 Apr 2016 16:20:14
Love to be a fly on the wall, Billy can talk some bullshit, but Martinez can convince you a cow can hang over a cliff, with its tail clinging to a daisy without falling over the cliff, by the time Bobby has finished talking, even Bill will be bambuzuled.

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29 Apr 2016 18:58:02
Most likely and most sensible is like Watford to announce that situation will be reviewed at end of season.

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29 Apr 2016 18:59:02
If there is a meeting and if they are discussing Martinez, why sack him today, that is just stupidity. At this stage nothing to gain nothing to lose, they will wait until Season end that is the common sense approach. And if termination is the intent no doubt they have taken advice and have a replacement in mind.

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29 Apr 2016 02:39:45
Shergar just been seen at finch farm with lord Lucan could have potential this one 😉.

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29 Apr 2016 06:59:27
Only here for treatment on hamstring injuries, sorry.

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29 Apr 2016 09:30:56
Is that just a rumour or did it come from the horses mouth.

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29 Apr 2016 12:53:20
Mr. Ed, he's a mate of mine.

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{Ed002's Note - You mean Bamboo Harvester.}

 
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