Everton Banter Archive September 28 2016

28 Sep 2016 16:44:51
Quite a good bit of insight into Koemans thinking on defending from Jags today in the papaer.

Basically the defensive lapse last week in the first half was down to the players on the pitch and they new exactly what they done wrong.

They didn't need the manager to tell them. We need the other end of the pitch to get their act together now.

I'm a Barkley fan but I wonder if dropping him to the bench and putting Mirrallas in the role might work (The good of the team is always be my priority) . Bolly on the left and Ged on the right. Ross can have a bit od time on the bench and come on second half. Might do i'm good.

28 Sep 2016 17:49:23
I like you BlueJohnUns have stood up for Barkley. Also like you I would agree with dropping him if needs be.

What I stood up for him for was people giving up on him wanting to sell him. Giving him abuse etc. All that I totally disagree with.

A short spell on the sidelines could benefit all.

28 Sep 2016 18:47:55
Agee mates, I still have faith in Barkley, but Mirrallas and Dellboy have just been as bad but don't get halve the stick Ross gets?

28 Sep 2016 22:20:30
Exactly stig. Barkley is developing into the easy target to give abuse to.

29 Sep 2016 00:25:19
Ross has all the ability you could ever want, plus, he is a great natural athlete, the problem is his decision makeing. Shoots when he should pass, passes when he should shoot, and when he beats two men, he tries to beat three more and loses the ball, really hope he can start to put it all together, but we cannot wait for ever!

29 Sep 2016 10:20:14
Agreed JCW his decision making needs improving. Also agree with the point we can't wait forever.

At the same time imho its too early to give up on him. I bet the same people who give out that Mustafi was let go are the same people saying to get rid of Barkley. Then in 2 or 3 seasons after being sold and if he turns into a star the same people will be giving out that he was sold!

29 Sep 2016 11:10:16
Mirallas did it well in the Sunderland game in the second half. It's only a thought but we've got a flexible attacking 4 or 5 players. Sometimes a change is good.

That defence of ours though is looking great and will have normal service resumed shortly I think. Just have a look at the table and see the goals against. Koeman has done great with it.

29 Sep 2016 13:04:36
Thinking the exact same thing BlueJohnUns. Your hardly the other half of my split personality signing in as a different name?

29 Sep 2016 15:43:35
Haha. I look at your responses the same NBTB.

I've agreed at some point with everyone on here over something and I even agree with Degsy on 99% of his posts (just don't tell him) . Keeping me on the straight and narrow though is our trusty ED's. They speak more sense than all of us put together.

{Ed025's Note - well we are superhuman john.. :)

29 Sep 2016 21:27:48
Lately though BlueJohnUns you could of wrote my responses for me they were that similar to my own. I know what you mean with the Ed's.

Ed025 always seems fair and diplomatic. Seems to like banter and points of view being teased out. Ed002 on the other hand is a no messing type guy which is good also. They both do a fantastic job along with the other Ed's who contribute from time to time.

28 Sep 2016 09:49:54
Sure one player won't be bothered too much by Big Sam getting the chop, that's two managers who have dropped Ross and have been dropped subsequently . on a hat trick!

28 Sep 2016 10:08:18
Thing is Jonno. . Southgate has the reins now for 4 games and he seems to regret his past 'omission' of Ross. So maybe he will make a point of including him in his squad, if he does that could be a boosting catalyst for the rest of the season .

{Ed025's Note - the thing is 247 does ross deserve to be in the england team on current form?, the answer to that is no...i just hope it motivates him to better himself and lifts him to produce the goods for everton then the rest will take care of itself i think mate..

28 Sep 2016 10:23:56
Ed. . I'm hoping that there is a combination to unlock the 'motivation' with Ross and International call up could be an integral part of it.

{Ed025's Note - we need houdini and dynamo to crack that case at the moment 247.. :)

28 Sep 2016 10:41:10
Ed. . Houdini and Dynamo was and is respectively great illusionists we probably need to borrow someone like Sigmund Freud to get into the lads mind and find out what the hell is blocking his talent mate 🤔.

{Ed025's Note - i hope it is his mind 247..and not his heart mate..

28 Sep 2016 10:51:53
I love Ross to bits but when's the last time he put two or three good games together are we all missing something is he as good as what we all think?

{Ed025's Note - thats the $64,000 dollar question AB, i think he can be but the clock is ticking i feel mate..

28 Sep 2016 11:40:25
I think a stint out away from England is good for him. Let him concentrate on Everton.

It would be nice if the fans concentrated on other players as well as the focus on him must be depressing.

Instead of us hoping he takes on 5 players and hits one in the top corner maybe concentrate on the basics which he has done pretty well in the last two league games.

28 Sep 2016 11:47:05
If you want to know how much the fans contribute to his performances his passing away from home is 91% whereas at home it is 78%. Anxiety is obviously playing a part in this.

28 Sep 2016 12:13:02
England would have to be desparate to pick Barclay, if we had another number 10 he would not get into our team at the moment. Ross is so overated it is unbelievable.
Why he was taken to the Euros baffles me and he could not even get a game in that bad team.
He has never fulfilled his early promise, we should have sold him when he was flavour of the month but idiot Martinez decided to keep him.

28 Sep 2016 12:33:26
''idiot Martinez decided to keep him. ''

Milo. . A snippet from the 'Express' on dodgy dealing managers (this is just for fun btw 🙃 )


''After managing several British clubs, he was allegedly fired by one for having “his fingers in the till”. Pagliara said he would get involved if “you understand that when we do deals I have to have a carrier bag with some cash”. ''

Did this mysterious guy have a penchant for brown shoes I wonder? 🤔.

{Ed025's Note - after the niasse deal who knows?..

28 Sep 2016 13:52:53
Jeeez, way to go milomj. You really know how to encourage and support the team.

29 Sep 2016 07:08:00
I am not suprised Ross has a high percentage passing rate, how many times does he receive the ball from a foot away, pass it back, receive it again and pass it back again, sometimes he can touch the ball 4 times in the space of 10 seconds, without the ball travelling further than a few feet, that's not passing to me, that's just getting your stats up.

He needs dropping to the bench Friday, I am a fan of Ross, but if he starts, his first touch that goes astray will be jumped on by the whipping boys in the ground.

Take Ross out of the fireing line early doors, then use as a sub if needed to get some confidence back.

29 Sep 2016 09:24:20
Why not revert to 442 and play a second striker and lose the AM for a change?

29 Sep 2016 15:51:14
Your right Baz. Stats can be manipulated and using these alone don't tell you anything.

I agree with taking out of the firing line for a bit and building his confidence and I'm eager to see what Ron will do with him.