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28 Nov 2017 23:53:07
If someone told me that big fkin Sam would be are manager at the start of the season I would of got them sectioned. I could cry we are in a hole I can't see any way out of. what top players are going to want to come here now. I hope am wrong.
28 Nov 2017 22:28:33
Ed002 if your about can you see Everton offering a deal that Shakhtar can agree to or are they going to leave it and appoint Sam thank s.
{Ed002's Note - I really don't know Eddy.}
28 Nov 2017 23:31:56
Not particularly arsed about Big Sam coming. Its the type of man we need to ensure we don't go down.
What I am more upset about is that, that rat Sammy Lee, will be in the dugout as well.
Grim.
28 Nov 2017 21:05:52
Hi has anybod the eds heard anything loads of stories coming out now about Big Sam why would he come now being second choice forge second time asking for more money? Longer contract? I will be devastated if he comes and takes over our club and poison it if it does happen it will be one of the worst season in the clubs history he’s everything the club strives not to be will be very disappointed but will still support my team.
{Ed025's Note - i tink a lot of us feel the same eddy, he wants a longer contract than we want to give him apparently as well as top dollar wages and money to spend, but will we cave in to this massively large headed crooks demands?..absolutely mate..
28 Nov 2017 21:24:50
Ed I have never been so down as an Everton fan as I am now hearing he is going to be appointed it’s doesn't bother me about the style of football being played to secure our safety it’s his past dodgey dealings high demands and his very high opinion of himself and also the media are pushing for this appointment for some reason.
{Ed025's Note - not something im happy about either eddy but what can we do? i thought we had more class but apparently not mate..
28 Nov 2017 21:43:39
I will be devasttated if he does not come, the only thing that stands between us and relagation. Our club does not stand for shiping 9 goals in 4 days or the most goals thus far in the prem. If your on fire, you call the fire brigade, not a team of russian ballet dancer.
{Ed025's Note - i see your point jcw but is selling your soul to the devil the correct way forward some may say...i suppose we shall see mate..
28 Nov 2017 21:49:17
Agreed ed I think you can tell moshiri’s targets compared to kenwright/ Walsh’s targets and they seem to have two different styles of football they want to okay.
{Ed025's Note - i have given my view on things eddy and will from now on hold my tongue on the subject until we see what transpires, if he does get the gig then we have to get behind the team and support whatever comes to pass, the well being of the club is paramount now mate..
28 Nov 2017 21:56:20
I woke in a cold sweat last night to see Morishi and Kenwright grilling Fat Sam, but then it turned out ok as they were adding some garlic, herbs and sauteed potatoes :-)
{Ed025's Note - i like that nick..
28 Nov 2017 22:10:52
😂😂😂 the only thing I can sa you are not guaranteed pl status if Big Sam is appointed this is football anything can happen it’s not a given we stay up.
28 Nov 2017 22:47:13
Last few managers we wanted did not go to plan, be ironic the one we didn’t want in big Sam turns out to be the manager to fix the slump, no pun intended, you just never know, if he gets a result at our neighbours his 90 % no thanks will swing the other way, should he be appointed.
29 Nov 2017 10:54:07
You (most of you) Jump on this 'Big Sam the Crook' bandwagon. But what has he done different from any other Manager? The England Job for a start, even though he did not know that sting operation (corrupt media more like) was what it was, the bloke was honest. Listen to his answers and one in particular, 'I would have to hear more, I may be interested but I am under contract to the FA, you/ I would have to talk to my present employers first'. Doesn't sound like a crook to me. Far worse in my opinion was that no mark at Bolton, creeping around behind Sams back spreading poison so that he got the job, and what happened to that.
28 Nov 2017 20:38:10
If there is no new Manager to at least influence the selection tomorrow night. I expect Unsworth to stick with Schneiderlin and Gueye as the two DM's, Martina at LB and Rooney and Williams somewhere in the Team. That being the case we will lose, no if's or but's.
{Ed025's Note - i dont doubt it DFS..
28 Nov 2017 20:49:37
Bang on, I can’t believe he can stick with Schneiderlin but
He will and that’s why we need a new way of thinking from a new manager. It’s time we had a clear out of the everton old boys back room staff, they’ve had their time.
28 Nov 2017 20:53:25
ducksflysouth - once we concede the first goal (probably to a set-piece - as per usual) , it’ll be game over (as per usual) :- (.
28 Nov 2017 22:12:19
I would prefer to see Davies or Baningime partnering Gueye a bit more drive and enthusiasm.
28 Nov 2017 22:15:35
Baningime has to play if mccarthy is still crocked.
Rooney has scored a phenomenal amount against West ham so would have him as the 9.
28 Nov 2017 20:19:18
I cannot believe there are people who would rather see Sam managing this club than Fonseca. Staggering.
28 Nov 2017 21:02:09
I cannot believe there are people who believe that ANY manager could do anything with this unbalanced squad. Staggering.
28 Nov 2017 21:24:13
I can't believe. Sad but true.
28 Nov 2017 21:29:42
Because we are the current worst team in league and we need someone to come in quick and stamp there authority on these players, we kno nothing about Fonsceca and is too risky in our situation where is Allardyce is a better choice than anyone at getting us out of this mess, people have to put there pride aside for one minute, and what ever your feelings towards him are he is the best man for the job we need to stay up simple as that forget about styles and who we should buy in January we are entering a tough festive period now and appointing a manager who does not know the league going into Christmas is ludicrous.
{Ed025's Note - i know what you are saying metz and if he does a number and gets us safe then it may justify his appointment, i want to know how long his contract is and how lucrative the reward of our saviour is before i dance naked in the street over him mate...2 and a half years and 40 pieces of silver i suspect..
28 Nov 2017 22:27:11
I am struggling to understand all the doom and gloom. OK we are in a bad position at present, but there are 26 games left. Are we forgetting where we want our club to be and who we want to compete against? For the sake of 3-4 more games, if that’s how long it takes to get the right man who, will rejuvenate the squad, build on what we have and, take us to where we originally wanted to be, I am all for it. Get a mid-table manager and that’s where we will stay. Already others have said that we will be left with mediocre players the likes that Allardyce brings in, who won’t be able to step up to the level we need to go forward when he leaves and, hey ho here we go big money spent to improve the team again. We do have good players, we do have young talent emerging, we have the right blend of age, we just need one or two more to make us complete, but we need someone who can bring them on together, not destroy what we have by bringing in thugs with not much talent. Where are Leicester since Walsh left? 9th. Where are Allardyce’s last two clubs? 18th and 20th. I don’t want us to be 19th. This must be my worst ever period as an Evertonian. I have followed them through the mid to late 60s, through the wilderness years of 70-84, spent countless amounts of money going home and away, seen us compete to break into the tops 6 in the PL, but I have never seen us the laughing stock of the football world. It makes me feel sick with what’s going on.
28 Nov 2017 20:15:34
Our fanbase (and various pundits and media outlets) cover the full spectrum of opinions regarding all Everton issues - especially who to appoint as manager and which players to release or recruit.
This spread of opinions can generally be reflected statistically by a graph that looks like a bell curve: fewer opinions at the extreme ends of the spectrum and most opinions in the middle. The problem is that these bell ends (pun intended) are the views that seem to get expressed most forcefully and are picked up and repeated ad nauseam in traditional and social media.
28 Nov 2017 19:33:29
These are desperate times but I am glad that fans don't get a say in running the club. To read posts on here you'd think we could just have waved a wad of cash and had Simeone in weeks ago, as if top managers have to jump when Everton say we want them. "Still in the champs league? Sack it - it's Everton! "
It's been incredibly frustrating and it's getting scary but for God's sake let's show some balls and not keep on constantly whinging. None of us know what's going on behind the scenes. We tried to get Silva to the point where we were going to be reported to the FA. They haven't (yet) settled for a second-rate manager just because it's easy to get one quickly. Shaktar has a champs league match a week tomorrow. They may still qualify from the group but it's likely they'll just be pipped by Napoli. If our board think Fonseca might be available after that, it would be blind panic to appoint Sam this week on a 3 year contract with a big compo clause. If you think he's going to sign just until the end of the season, you're deluded. Yes it's a risk waiting a few days for a better manager but realistically, even if Fonseca would come, his club are not going to release him for any fee before that City game next week. I would rather have Fonseca next week than Sam today. No contest. If he doesn't come, that doesn't mean they screwed up, they just took a chance that didn't come off. There are no guarantees and there are no easy answers.
{Ed025's Note - good post that coyb..
28 Nov 2017 20:16:33
fully agree good post mate.
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28 Nov 2017 20:18:13
Fonseca = relegation, Sam, a fighting chance of staying up, sign Sam, to-night.
28 Nov 2017 20:41:21
Big Sam landing London Heathrow 12:40 tomorrow, quick
flight up to the north west to signe, and will be announced
16:00 hrs 4 he’s before kick off.
May not like the news, however if it’s what it takes to keep us safe then so be it.
Hopefully Coleman, Bolasi, and Barkley all fit In 2 weeks and we can start our season again.
28 Nov 2017 20:45:42
don't agree with that mate.
28 Nov 2017 21:25:55
Don't think Sam likes Ross that much.
28 nov 2017 18:42:08
tony cottee just said he worried for west ham if efc appoint someone tonight, which let's face it ain't going to happen but we all been saying for weeks just get it done ✅!
how come we all know this but the board don't?
dither dither dither.
28 Nov 2017 19:45:41
trebor: imho the club finds itself between a rock and a hard place (of its own making! ) regarding a managerial appointment.
On the one hand, they want someone in the short-term to steer us safely clear of the relegation zone this season; on the other hand, they want a manager who’ll eventually play the more expansive football that makes us genuine challengers for European qualification and trophies.
In either case, the new manager will need to reshape the squad - starting in January (an expensive and difficult task) - and I wonder if he (especially a short-term manager) would be allowed to be as ruthless and spend as much money on what he sees as required.
It’s clear to me that the club (board and ownership) hoped Unsworth could do a job until, at best, they secured their preferred choice asap this season or, at worst, until they could review matters at the end of the season. It’s unbelievable that they hadn’t already got a new manager ready to come in before they finally dismissed Koeman; in fact, it’s inexcusable that they don’t appear to agree on who they want.
28 Nov 2017 20:12:15
Why should they agree? Read the posts here - diametrically opposed mostly. BFS is either our only hope or the devil incarnate. Silva is either the next big thing or he's only been in the prem 5 minutes and took Hull down. Fonseca either won the treble and has managed in the champs league or he has no prem experience and manages in a one-team league (even though it's other big team, Dinamo Kiev, handed us our backsides last time we were in the Europa) . Dyche is either our safe option or he's boring and limited. Ok we all agree on O'Neill.
28 Nov 2017 20:23:26
coyb - who’d want to run a football club? ;-)
28 Nov 2017 21:30:03
Lol. All of us, mate?
28 Nov 2017 18:33:00
Unreal this now. Maybe we shouldn't listen to rumours or any 'inside' knowledge but this is torture. Does anyone including the Eds have any clue or something concrete on what the club is doing?
{Ed025's Note - mixing limestone chippings with coarse sand and adding cement and water....thats the only thing i have thats concrete at this time OT mate.. :)
28 Nov 2017 18:42:53
The only thing "concrete" now is that our club is wearing figurative cement shoes in the East River and the Toffees are sleeping with the fish.
28 Nov 2017 18:44:12
We're doomed I say, Doomed!
28 Nov 2017 18:44:38
Is Koeman still available?
28 Nov 2017 20:41:27
New Blue in the U: I think that Koeman is available - for pantomime this Christmas! Oh, wait a minute, this season at Everton is a pantomime.
That’s a club tradition following on from Martinez’s last couple of seasons when he played “Pinocchio” and most of Moyes’s tenure when he was “Grumpy” in “Snow White and the Seven Dwarves”. I fear that Unsworth, Ebbrell and co have been found out as “Babes in the Wood”.
We hoped that Moshiri would be the “Goose that laid the Golden Egg”, but he might be “Widow T****y” while Kenwright and Elstone appear as “The Ugly Sisters” - and all the time Everton remains the “Cinderella” club, but instead of a case of “you shall go to the ball” we’re being served a load of balls.
{Ed025's Note - love that bobby..
28 Nov 2017 22:30:45
Ed025 - why the asterisks? The middle letters might spell a rude word, but the whole name isn’t.
{Ed007's Note - That's a built in filter on the sites mate, it used to happen with Scunthorpe all the time until Ed033 worked his magic. Most of them have been changed but Twanky isn't a common word on the sites to have been flagged to change it.}
28 Nov 2017 17:56:38
Well we that was my only concern mate. Fonseca for me all the way.
Thanks ed.
COYB.
{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..
28 Nov 2017 17:11:48
Well for all those who say he doesn't know the premier league. Well he didn't know the Russian league and look at the job he is doing there.
My only concern with Fonseca is how good is his English.
What do you eds think of that.
COYB.
{Ed025's Note - according to the echo he speaks fluent english emerald, so lets just hope its all systems go mate..
28 Nov 2017 19:41:56
Get stuck in you lazy ******* ******** translates to sign language in most languages :-)
{Ed025's Note - love it nick..
28 Nov 2017 16:55:28
When will it all stop! My bloody head is spinning, will someone please make a decision. Beginning to think Bill must own betting shops, because those boys are making a small fortune off this.
28 Nov 2017 16:45:45
Nil satis nisi optimum! Only the best. We are in dire straits at the minute and taking Big Sam would be a risk as would O'Neil and Fonseca. But if we were to take a risk I'd go for Fonseca his football is attacking and doesn't really concede many goals and won the treble last season! so if he were to bring in his players in January and stop this rot I think we'd have a chance of a top 8 finish he's well liked by other managers. yes he has no premier league experience but Big sams never had a team qualify for Europe and that's where we want to be so go n get him moshiiii.
{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way crocky mate..
28 Nov 2017 18:09:05
At least Fonseca will get everyone excited and lift the mood around the club rather than just settling for Sam or O'neil.
{Ed025's Note - i agree oll..
28 Nov 2017 16:41:24
Hey Ed 025,this guy Foncesca sorry spelling in the running, he certainly seems to have done it all mate and won it all, can Everton pull this one off mate, and is fella a good fix for us cheers.
{Ed025's Note - i dont know a lot about the guy to be honest GB but i have looked at his CV and its impressive, out of the 3 in the running he would be my choice though mate..
28 Nov 2017 16:05:41
Please, whoever is in charge, will they make a decisions, it's getting to be both serious, and embararrassing.
{Ed025's Note - i agree jcw..
28 Nov 2017 19:36:08
My worry is whoever comes in will have to battle the gang of 3. If I were Morishi I would do as ed 025 says and have a darn good clear out.
28 Nov 2017 15:29:21
Fonseca now 2/ 1 with paddy power. From 4/ 1. Sam out to 4/ 7 From 1/ 5 . This in the last hour.
28 Nov 2017 15:50:56
Means nothing.
{Ed025's Note - your right swan..
28 Nov 2017 16:39:38
In other words the bookies stand to make money whatever happens. And there’s me thinking they are in the know. To think these guys know any more than the press stretches the imagination.
28 Nov 2017 17:52:58
This allways makes me think if bill knows who it is going to be can't he tell his mate then he can put a big bet on it? What stopping him the rich get richer.
28 Nov 2017 14:46:34
I can't believe out of all the managers that has been linked to Everton over the last 6 weeks why Eddie Howe's name has not popped up has done a great job with Bournemouth A to get them to prem and B to keep them in the league and plays great football with players he has at his disposal.
28 Nov 2017 15:42:16
And he's an Evertonian.
28 Nov 2017 15:51:35
Because he can’t defend or live in the north or take bournmouth any further regardless of money.
28 Nov 2017 10:17:46
Sam Allardyce has told friends he "needs convincing" about becoming Everton manager WTF, he is after more money? last month we could have had him or Moyes, both would keep you in the prem but Moyes we could have had for buttons and got rid at the end of the season, Sam will be fighting for 3 years and lots of money, why are we in this mess, dreading Wednesday.
28 Nov 2017 10:37:49
WHY ARE WE IN THIS MESS? - Stig
It’s obvious isn’t it mate
I been banging on as recently as yesterday about the board at our club .
Most of us could have handled the Lukaku, Koeman and recruitment of the new manager far better than the board, and I am convinced any other Prem board would have dealt with it far better .
Many have jumped on me to support the board but I just do not think they have any defence .
Acted like prize idiots the lot of them .
Are greates weakness is dithering, we are expert at it .
Evryone is saying going to be big Sam, so be it BUT. Big Sam may not want to come now as we did not actually show faith in him and we may loose out .
Any management team with a ounce of sense would have highlighted the two home games this week and had a guy in yesterday to lead us into those two vital games .
No doubt with our record it will be next Monday after two more defeats, yes it’s more likely than not with the confidence poor Unsworth is instilling and his tactics are if nothing else bizarre
Pull your bloody fingers out and get this sorted NOW
SUPPORTED SINCE 59 never been this bad.
28 Nov 2017 11:07:39
abut the same as you Trevor mate 59/ 60 for me, but very sad and disheartened at the mo mate.
28 Nov 2017 11:55:07
It does make you wonder. Bill God bless him, doesn't appear to want to let go of the reins and Mr Moshri does not appear to listen or accept advice off anyone else. On the subject of big Stan. What has the fella actually done wrong. Binned from England for telling the truth, did nobody pick up on that sting 'meeting' in which Allardyce told them he may be interested but he was under contract and anything would have to be run past his bosses (the FA) . The media behaved irresponsibly once again.
28 Nov 2017 12:13:50
sorry trebor mate.
28 Nov 2017 12:52:37
Our current form on the pitch has nothing to do with Lukaku, He has gone, we did not replace him, get over it. Try to be more concerned about how poor our defence is, We are not conceding goals because we do not have a striker.
We are trying to get a new manager but every single candidate that we know has made the shortlist is unacceptable with most of you even if they meet all of the unrealistic targets you all want.
And as for saying big Sam may not want to come because we did not show faith in him, Well i have heard some ridiculously stupid statements on here but that really takes the biscuit. Do you really think that talks would of been re-opened yesterday had that been the case?
How about me making a prediction for you. I will predict that in 24 months time Trebor will still be moaning about Lukaku.
28 Nov 2017 14:03:02
I have no doubt that the board wanted this sorted weeks ago. Their primary target was Silva and an approach was made after the game against Watford. If that was well received he’d have been in place by now. It hasn’t turned out that way but not for the want of trying.
I’m not sticking up for them as I too find it all very frustrating, but we need to see what has already happened before we start making comments that in view of the facts just aren’t true.
28 Nov 2017 09:35:34
I see people on here asking for quality people to be brought in players and staff the reason we are in this mess is we cannot and have not recruited wholesale quality since the late eighties and just who of quality want us.
28 Nov 2017 12:22:13
In the eighties we bought a lot of players from lower division teams and developed them to e fair!
28 Nov 2017 12:55:34
A big reason for that Wakka was the European ban. That gave us time to rebuild except it was lifted half way through and we were caught trailing a little.
28 Nov 2017 09:01:22
the only thing that will give me a shred of hope is if we announce AVB as manager.
28 Nov 2017 14:49:09
Based on 2 failed jobs in prem that’s why, has not done anything apart from Porto but then most managers that been at Porto are successful.
28 Nov 2017 08:37:36
Before I start, I'd like to say anyone will go anywhere for ENOUGH money.
If our supposed first choice (Silva) 9s not going to happen and we offered 13m for his buy out and then wages on top, why do t we offer Ancelotti WHATEVER he wants to come in.
My opinion is Fonseca has no Prem experience (handling the lowest confidence team) and Sam plays boring football, is an arrogant man (and now knows we're desperate, so has us by the balls) and has a big black question mark hanging over him.
Ancelotti at least has Prem experience, a wealth of knowledge, good connections and has said he is open to the right project.
28 Nov 2017 09:39:09
Allardyce would be a betrayal of everything Labone, Ball and the rest stood for.
28 Nov 2017 10:19:42
I think appointing Allardyce would be the worst thing we could do. He'd squeeze is for every penny. Sign players for right now and leave the next manager an even bigger mountain to climb.
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28 Nov 2017 06:31:36
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Tuesday 28th November 2017
28 Nov 2017 05:03:57
Anyone else pick up on the report that Everton's board and ownership have actually agreed on at least one thing: the club's motto "Only the best is good enough" will be replaced by "Say nothing, do nothing, win nothing"?
28 Nov 2017 10:45:49
Bobby C 1878 how can 3 people give you thumbs down on your remark re our board nothing could be more truthful that they at present represent exactly the opposite of our great motto.
28 Nov 2017 11:11:47
Trevor: I guess some people can’t see a joke!
28 Nov 2017 00:01:31
8 days before koeman was sacked fonseca made noises about prem job
I told my lad to put money on him then
He will do a great job with us.
28 Nov 2017 08:21:05
No prem experience for a team who will be fighting for survival for the remainder of the season.