Everton Banter Archive August 28 2016

28 Aug 2016 23:06:01
Few thoughts on Saturdays game (waited a bit because anything posted at the time gets lost in a crowd of posts) .

First thing is condolences to the guy who passed away's family. Really puts things in perspective.

Second is that what a result. May not have been the greatest performance but those are the exact sort of games we lost under Martinez. it was hardly a tactical master stroke to bring Mori on late on, but it was the exact sort of solid tactical decision we've been missing and from that perspective, that's the third consecutive match that an intelligent sub has ensured the result. early days, but Koeman is doing everything right so far.

Bolasie was superb. Offers everything Deulofeu does but with strength, determination and less predictability.

To quickly bring it back to my usual negativity, though, I have to say that the Stoke fans where an absolute disgrace. Obviously not them all, a lot gave generously to Speedo Mick at half time and a lot respectfully watched the game, but a lot should be ashamed of themselves. Sat very close to them in the park end and a guy and an 8 year old child where both hit with coins and I was very nearly hit with a full bottle. First half was all 'banter' but after we scored they turned poisonous and their was at least 5 people I saw who should never be allowed in a stadium again. Hope CCTV reveals the guilty parties and Stoke are fined for their poor behaviour.

I'd also say that I've finally decided that I really hope we don't sign a new right back. Holgate's future is an CB for me but if this gives he more game time then I'm 100% behind it. Got a lot to learn but has been superb so far.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with any of that anders, good post mate..

28 Aug 2016 23:40:57
Good post. Agree with everything you said. could see what was happening with the stoke fans and this is starting to creep back onto the games. Have been to away games were a small minority of our fans have let us down with similar actions, its leaves it up to the majority to point our these clowns that tarnish the names of all clubs.

28 Aug 2016 22:45:20
If I were Ross Barkley right now I'd be seething. i'd tell that Allardice where to stick it and refuse to play for England again whilst fat Sam is manager. I'm sorry, but England during the Euros were so crap going forwards and possessed as much creativity as my 5 yr old son b4 he could read and write. England's midfield needs that creativity, a player like Ross that can spread the play and create goal scoring opportunities with that special pass that other players in that squad cannot appear to do. I'm gutted for Ross, think he's started well this season and I'm sure RK and the squad will rally round him right now. judging by people reactions on Twitter and social media 2nite most other England fans think the same. I just hope Ross now goes on up to another level during the rest of the season and shows his true potential and scores some stunning goals and when Sam A. comes calling and grovelling, he tells him where to go!

{Ed025's Note - fat sam would not know a good player if one bit him on the arse soli, hes a fraud and a charletan mate and we have no chance of progressing under him..

28 Aug 2016 23:49:13
If I saw Henderson picked and me dropped I would say the same.

29 Aug 2016 01:03:33
I guess it's all about opinions, but anyone picking a group to represent england, that excludes Barkley, but picks Hendison, should go and have a nice lie down in a darkened room until he's feeling better, then ask the man in the white coats, to loosen the strapes on his jacket.

28 Aug 2016 23:45:46
Ross has a problem is he likes the ball to have grass on it, not snow and clouds. as brian clough said if football was ment to be played in the air, god would have put grass up there.

28 Aug 2016 20:31:54
I know that the lad has divided opinion between our own fans but I'm quite shocked that he hasn't been included in the national squad. Barkley has played pretty well so far, especially in comparison to some that have been included. What with not even getting any game time at the euro's, he hasn't had the best of times for England.

Their loss is our gain if we look at the positives, at least he will get more time to train with Koeman and he will hopefully be well rested in time for our next league game. Strange decision to be excluded but I hope it spurs him on to up his game even further.

28 Aug 2016 22:37:39
Completely agree. How on earth has he included Walcott and not him?

{Ed025's Note - thats allardyce for you ander, a complete prick who has never won anything mate..

28 Aug 2016 23:18:21
I think this is good news. I feel we over rate our players ( as Blues and England fans) Ross is a good player but over hyped cod he's English. He hasn't realised his potential in the last 2 years whilst others eg Delli Alli have! All blues who go to games know Ross doesn't look 90 min fit. I Trust RK to use this to motivate Ross to get totally four AND develop to his amazing potential!
IN RK WE TRUST! COYB!

{Ed025's Note - i so want ross to do well HH being a wavertree guy myself, but he is not the finished article yet and i believe his time will come mate..

28 Aug 2016 23:31:08
Sky gave him MOTM yesterday, Charlie Nicholas was covering our game and gave it to him. Rather him stay and train with us for the next 2 weeks anyways get more used to Koemans ways than go and play ugly football for England. Our gain I say.

{Ed025's Note - no argument from me gray..

29 Aug 2016 01:08:37
HH, he has certainly not progressed but I feel much of that was to do with the tactics of RM. He has started the season brightly, more so than the likes of Ali, so should have at least been in contention for a place in the squad. Especially so after the shambles of the summer when he wasn't even given a chance. Players who stunk arenas out in France have been included so it just seems a bit odd. Sure I read somewhere that fat Sam had said he would pick the team on merit, those playing and in form for their club would be selected. Well it's his first team selection and he has already gone against his word.
As I said in the OP it could serve EFC well so I'm not too bothered, just hope Ross can keep his chin up and use it as motivation to get to that level. In RK we have a manager that will give him the help needed to utilise his talents. I just feel sorry for the lad.

29 Aug 2016 01:14:09
Deli Ali progressed? Really?

29 Aug 2016 08:20:35
Didn't see the hype around Alli at the Euros or so far this season? So can't agree with HH on that one. It's the same old same old whoever is England manager. Basically Barkley has been omitted and Rooney included as a midfielder? Really? Sam finding ways to pick the London favourites already e.g Harry Kane, no goals at the Euros and none in 3 games this season, definitely picking him based on his form then.

28 Aug 2016 19:35:29
It don't look like Ross is in this England squad.

28 Aug 2016 20:49:27
Suits me fine. Only really interested in EFC. Big Sam clearly judges Henderson a better midfield option.

28 Aug 2016 20:49:46
What do you expect from an Allardyce squad. He picked Henderson, even Klopp knows he's crap.

28 Aug 2016 20:53:50
Bit of a shock but if he not there then less chance of injury. Plus for me.

28 Aug 2016 18:44:06
Sporting v porto on at moment watching and can't decide if we are linked to everyone playing and in stands or not! Slimani and Carvallo look good but no sign of bahrimi.

28 Aug 2016 17:52:32
Hopefully some truth in Brahimi coming to Goodison, he hasn't even made the bench for tonights game.

28 Aug 2016 14:45:31
Leicester in advanced talks for slimani so looks like another possible striking target gone then.

28 Aug 2016 15:11:34
Was there any interest from us at all though really? I think not myself.

28 Aug 2016 15:54:10
Champions League football is decisive in attracting top players.

28 Aug 2016 16:14:31
True Cowpat. The next few days will be interesting. Those players hoping to get Champions League football by way of a transfer will have to reconsider. that's where any offers we have on the table suddenly become more attractive to those players. Our points tally will do us no harm either.

28 Aug 2016 14:07:48
Id love to see us sign sturridge i know i know but when fit the lad is world class him and lukaku would scare the pants off any defence!
And can lead the line alone.

28 Aug 2016 15:22:16
He knows where the net is, I'll agree with that. But there are two many obstacles with even going for him. His injury record is woeful, not just since he pitched up over the park but throughout his career thus far. It's bad enough paying Gibson £30+k a week, DS would cost a lot more.
I find him to be selfish, both on and off the pitch. The last world cup showed he isn't much of a team player for me. Chasing a game, could have been against Italy, he had better options in front of him but he chose, on a couple of occasions, to shoot wildly from 30 yards. Couple that with how he reacted to another striker going on before him yesterday, for me his attitude is in question. And he wouldn't join us from them lot anyway.
Better looking elsewhere imo.

28 Aug 2016 15:58:07
Sturridge is a top goal scorer
BUT
could he stay fit to play enough matches
AND
would RK play with two out-and-out centre-forwards in Lukaku and Sturridge?

28 Aug 2016 13:15:50
Mirror reporting £25.5m bid rejected for Brahimi. Apparantly player is keen to come over.

28 Aug 2016 16:01:06
Other clubs see English PL clubs awash with money and will expect top dollar for their better players.
Likewise, I imagine agents will, want big wages for their players.

28 Aug 2016 12:50:06
I see Tottenham are in for Isco from Real Madrid. surely this is the player we need and should go for as our 1 marquee signing. a top drawer central midfielder. add to that Braheme from Porto and Haller as back up striker and I'll b doing the London marathon in my undercrackers singing "swing low sweet Farhad" c. o. y. b.

28 Aug 2016 12:34:33
"It's Koeman home, it's Koeman home, it's Koeman, football's Koeman home"

Couldn't resist

COYB NSNO.

28 Aug 2016 16:20:54
Class.

28 Aug 2016 07:46:05
You can immediately see that Mirallas has had his head sorted by Koeman. He looks like the player of old. Same goes for Baines too and to some extent Barkley looks a far more confident player. I know I mentioned it previously but Sissoko is one hell of a player when his mind is right. Imagine Koeman sorting his head and the line across the middle would be Mirallas, Gueye, Sissoko and Bolasie. It would be the rebirth of "dogs of war". No other team would have a moments peace on the ball in the middle or wings. We would have to coin a new phrase. how about "nuclear fission". of course we have not signed him yet, but I would have thought he is exactly the sort of player Koeman would like and could sort out.

28 Aug 2016 08:09:50
Good post Degs, not sure about 'Sissoko' though and I feel RK may be thinking similar in this respect but hey who knows? 🤷.

28 Aug 2016 09:04:36
As a footballer Sissoko is a beast and with some skill and when he wants. dictates games. This is where my humble pie comes in and I am starting to agree that Mr Koeman is an old fashioned "boss" who gets the best out of players. I know that Mr Benitez is a fan of James McCarthy. and Sissoko wants out of Newcastle just like McCarthy wants out of Everton. Apparently Juventus are anterested and that might stop it happening, but things look like they may fall into place. 3 weeks ago, with no wins, I would have said different. But we are now becoming an attraction.

28 Aug 2016 00:34:10
Just wanted to pop over and offer my deepest condolences and sympathies to the gentleman that past away at the game today . My thoughts are with his family and all the evertonians today . Very very sad . Take care all . From one of your brothers across the park YNWA NSNO.

28 Aug 2016 06:54:58
Very sad prayers go out his family no football fan should go to a game and not come home rip.

28 Aug 2016 07:26:03
Echoing the sentiments above, my thoughts are with this gentlemans family RIP.

28 Aug 2016 12:42:23
Thanks Danfield5. We all have to go sometime but 51 is far too young. I lost my mum when she was 47 so know the grief it can bring. RIP fellow Evertonian.