Everton Banter Archive April 28 2018

28 Apr 2018
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28 Apr 2018 22:32:29
SA has had jobs at clubs before that felt he didn't fit in with there ambition, namely Newcastle and West Ham. If he wasn't good enough for them he ain't good enough for us. I don't doubt for one minute that we would still be were we are today with either Koeman or Unsy in charge, he hasn't changed anything and has picked up points were we would be expected to have done so.
I don't care what he has said in press conferences as he done the same at West Ham, the powers that be at our club will release him at the end of the season and will see the payoff as being cheaper than the lost revenue if we were relegated, which I don't believe we were ever in trouble of anyways.

28 Apr 2018 21:10:48
Like Ed002 (bit acerbic but also spoke a lot of sense) think I have had enough of this site, gets far to personal.

28 Apr 2018 21:23:09
It is everyone's site DFS and we are all free to post our feelings. I agree personal posts to another that don't debate the topic should be deleted by the eds. Stay around. I enjoy your posts.

29 Apr 2018 08:26:17
DFS the site only gets personal if you let it. This is a open site that let's any post on whith in reason so you will always get some people that take it a bit far but i'm sure the EDs edit out the really bad stuff. Sometimes we can take things to heart when we should just ignore them. I have lived by the saying "sticks and stones". let's face it if your getting abuse for a particular post it more than likely that the people reading it don't understand a differing point of view. So they probably don't have the mental capacity to put forward a coherent opinion without reverting to slagging off, which puts you one above them anyway.

{Ed025's Note - i try to delete any personal stuff or insults as its just not on, the odd one may slip through the net as there is no exclusivity and other editors will edit these pages to keep the posts moving, but i can tell you that it is not the policy of the site to allow this sort of thing to happen and i will be monitoring the situation to make sure this sort of thing is curtailed..

28 Apr 2018 19:06:34
Take the quite ridiculous personal comments out of the equation on Allardyce and from a neutral perspective he has over and above completed the brief given him. I too would like a change come the new Season but the big question is who? Sam was recruited because nobody else wanted the job. Considering where he started from, the bloke has got us comfortable in the top ten and looking good for 8th. Martinez was sacked (10 mill pocket money) with the Club in 11th. Koeman came in and took us to 7th, an absolutely stupid transfer Window, obvious recruitment missed and an abundance of No 10's later in the new season and we were languishing in 18th. Unsy takes us to 13th (big win over Hammers) and with a few hiccups Sam comes in and has us in the position we are now in. You can have all the pretty football you want but for me pretty without a result is meaningless. If it is 1-0 every game, then I am entertained. Football is a competition and physical not Sunday Night at the Palladium but if that is your thing, go for it.

28 Apr 2018 19:22:40
I certainly do not want to see Sams style of football next season mate.

28 Apr 2018 19:48:10
Of course there's nothing wrong with 'winning ugly' DFS, just mot ALL the time - which is Sams second objective after not losing. To use your analogy, would you be happy if you paid a lot of money for tickets to see Swan Lake and you were directed to Birkenhead Park?

28 Apr 2018 20:03:08
Nice one Big H you summed that up great, have had enough of that negative footy.

28 Apr 2018 20:32:06
I don’t mind 1-0 wins and bore draws, providing like other successful teams who do it, we are challenging in the top 6, getting into Europe, and stocking up our trophy cupboard. I am thankful for what SA has done but, he is not the man we want to achieve our ambitions. It makes me wonder just who on the board believes he is the man to achieve this or, is it a case of success means money spent and they don’t want to empty their pockets. Is Morishi being held back? Is it now time BK and co sold up and let him loose. All I do know is they have to take on board the feelings of the fans. While supporters will always attend, bad or low atmosphere can destroy. A club with no atmosphere dies.

28 Apr 2018 20:41:23
Good post Nick some sound sense there mate.

28 Apr 2018 20:48:51
had some nice times in Birkenhead. In fact having travelled and worked all over the World for an initial 11 years returned to the UK and met the love of my life in Birkenhead. We returned in 1991 and have rarely missed a home game since. Seen some crap from Everton in my time and believe me this stuff from the present lot under Sam does not even come close.

28 Apr 2018 20:51:01
NickB57. Thought that a lot of BK and Elstone in the last few years, but have to be careful what is said, some interpret criticism as an afront on BK's legacy, they misunderstand.

28 Apr 2018 21:26:45
same as that dfs mate, have watched the Blues since the early 1960s, great times.

28 Apr 2018 21:34:45
ah yes the cash cow syndrome DFS. Run in on a shoestring, win nowt, and get a nice return.

28 Apr 2018 22:46:10
Jose Mourinho won trophies playing negative at times but that's the difference he won trophies. He has a style not to dissimilar to SA but he uses attack as the first line of defence. He plays with 1 yes 1 defensive midfielder to help out his back line and then plays with 2 attack minded midfielders in front to complement the attack. We have been away to Swansea and Huddersfield and played with 2 defensive midfielders and an aging AM in Rooney, this is not the way forward. Next season if he remains in charge we will be found out and teams will commit more men in midfield and attack to address our numbers at the back, add to that we have aging CB we will struggle. We cannot hope to sign attack minded players who know that coming to a SA Everton means you won't get to play in the oppositions half, so what will we get? The same squad, the same team, the same tactics and a bigger struggle. If SA remains in charge we will stand still and others will move forward above us and those below will catch us making the gap to the bottom 3 closer to us.

29 Apr 2018 01:24:58
Wheey Birkenhead :) sorry we never get a mention haha.

28 Apr 2018 17:25:08
Doesn't it happen in football that the manager can get a vote of confidence from the manager, then the next week get the sack.
I watched a recording of last Monday's game against Newcastle and there was a camera clip of directors box. Mr Moshiri had a resigned smile about something and Bill blowing his cheeks in a "I'm fed up watching this" way. That's my opinion.

Surely the club need to be a top draw attraction to attract sponsors and supporters etc, so it's not in the clubs interest to settle for mid table positions.

28 Apr 2018 17:16:53
Anyone else sick of these pundits patronising little old EFC and attacking the fans over Allardyce? .

28 Apr 2018 17:25:26
I for one do not want to watch this sort of footy next season from us.

28 Apr 2018 19:23:51
Seen far worse Managers, players and Squads at Everton than this lot in my time. I do not like Sam Allardyce (professionally) but knew when I initially said we should recruit him what he would bring. It has taken time (6 months) but watching that game today (live feed) in particular the second half we were as Wagner said quality. I really do think that our aspirations have to meet reality. Fonseca will not come to Everton (without an ott offer) and that applies to others of his status. So what are we left with, looking for Managers of potential and vision? how long do you think they would last! This lot of supporters (a minority) pay lip service to patience but in reality have none. Today we won 2-0 away from home and in the second half played some good stuff, yet we still have idiots with their banners and while applauding their home and away support, they are idiots the only thing they achieve is giving the Club a bad name.

28 Apr 2018 21:53:20
I’m not a fan of SA at all and I’m hopeful that he’s gone in the summer, but . the chanting and banners is purely embarrassing for the club. It’s not “Everton” behaviour and I’d rather people who act like this didn’t follow the club.

28 Apr 2018 15:22:52
Rooneys been important this season but lately he has been absolutely dog poo. Vlasic showimg signs of promise, baffles me as to his lack of chances. Half time Rooney off and niasse on, 2 strikers.

28 Apr 2018 15:55:17
Said the exact same thing to me dad 20 mins into first half mate.

28 Apr 2018 15:57:32
Poor old man needs a holiday.

28 Apr 2018 14:29:26
All the panel saying on SSN Mr Moshiri should now come out and either back Sam or get rid and let the fans know what's going on, a phone call to Jim maybe hmmm.

28 Apr 2018 15:23:14
You know it won't happen though GB we will be kept in the dark till the end of the season, I think if he is staying nothing will be said as not to make a bad atmosphere at the last couple of games.

28 Apr 2018 12:12:01
Like most my eyes lit up seeing Emery leaving PSG in the summer. What a dream come true if he came to Goodison. Trouble is Arsenal would be sniffing round. I feel he is a losing battle unless Moshiri gives him the world. Also you don't want to upset any other manager ie Fonseca or Silva? By them feeling second best. Fonseca I feel would want to be first choice all the way. If he caught wind he wasn't I reckon he'd tell us to do one. He's young and focused. You could say he would be doing us a favour if he came. We better not screw this up by going for Emery who could walk into any club ie Arsenal.

28 Apr 2018 11:21:32
A lot of speculation about Allardyce and of course a lot of positive talk from him about him staying next season and his positive review with Moshiri. I am not panicking yet since at this stage if I was Moshiri I would want to hear what plans Sam has to improve the side and get us playing more attractive and winning football. I believe that Sam is reading more into this and that Moshiri is still weighing his options. Hopefully Moshiri has a top manager lined up for next season.
Regardless of wether Sam stays or not the most important position that needs addressing IMHO is the one Walsh presently occupies. Our recruitment over the last two years has been a disaster. I am not saying that we have not brought in some good players but we have brought in a lot who play in the same position, a lot we just do not play at all, ones who are just not good enough and we have failed to address some of the glaring needs that even us stupid supporters can identify. I know that the managers are partly to blame also but Walsh was brought in to provide guidance and he has failed. The buck stops at the top and he needs to be replaced and now.
Having been a supporter of this club for 72 years I believe that this is a pivotal year in our history. If Moshiri fails to act I have serious doubts about our ability to progress further than what we are now, a mid-table side at best.

28 Apr 2018 11:53:09
No one listens to us old sods mate, lol, but i do think Sam is not the only problem at our club, do you think he will go for a draw? again? a BIG yes.

28 Apr 2018 12:02:54
It's not inconceivable that Moshiri has asked Walsh and Sam to go to london to present him with their visions for next season so he can assess their suitability to take us forward next season.
A bit like a job interview for next season.
Moshiri can then size that up against any other options he may have for their roles.
It would make sense then to have the board meeting the day after.

28 Apr 2018 09:05:34
Hey Ed 025 now that Sam has come out and stated he intends to be at Everton next season, and with so many disgruntled fans with him, surely the Board should come out and issue a statement to reiterate what Sam is saying, the team and fans should know who is going to be in charge, all this uncertainty is not doing anybody any good, your comments would be appreciated mate cheers.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think anything is set in stone yet GB, sam is so full of himself that he will expect to be here next season and he really believes he has done a good job, he does talk a good game but we have to believe that farhad will see right through this charade and kick him to the kerb, everton have a tradition of ignoring the fans and keeping them in the dark mate so i cant see that changing anytime soon but we live in hope, i dont think i can stand the thought of next season with him in charge..

28 Apr 2018 09:37:09
Cheers ed with the board meeting yesterday I thought something may have been decided, not holding though mate.

28 Apr 2018 09:46:39
No manager would openly come out and say he doeant have support of the owner. It'll all buy in to his "I wasnt treated fairly" rhetoric he'll spew once he's out, £4.8 million in pocket.

28 Apr 2018 10:45:29
I will never stop supporting Everton but I won't be watching them next season if he is still in charge.

28 Apr 2018 11:58:53
I'm with you Smit666, since he said he is staying on as manager, I've had a sinking feeling in my stomach, I'm not even mentally wanting to watch any games next season as the football on show is so depressing. I'll always support Everton but while Sam is in charge, it's going to be difficult to watch them. Players not given a chance and good young players like Lookman, Vlasic and Klaassen will probably want off. If Sam thinks 1 shot on target at home against a team below us is a success, god help us.

28 Apr 2018 07:35:40
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 28th April 2018

28 Apr 2018 06:12:27
Simple question: whose advice do FM and BK take when deciding what to do at Everton?
Who influenced them regarding the sacking of Martinez, the hiring and then firing of Koeman, the appointing of Walsh and Allardyce, and who counsels them now about the way forward regarding the positions of manager, DoF, CEO, etc., etc.?

28 Apr 2018 07:20:23
I think it could be Paul and Barry Chuckle.

28 Apr 2018 08:08:19
BK is the one who holds Moshri's ear. I have said in an earlier comment that the likes of Bill, Elstone etc need the thanks for your contribution handshake at the end of the season from Mr Moshri. Bill in particular should be given an honoury position at the Club for all he has done but it has to be non-executive. Another name I have mentioned is Glenn Hoddle, he has many many projects ongoing but with his knowledge and contacts Mr Moshri would do well to throw a lot of cash his way on a consultancy basis.

{Ed025's Note - im a glenn fan as well DFS..

28 Apr 2018 09:11:27
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Smit I'm doubled over.

28 Apr 2018 09:16:27
Ed025: Hoddle might have done something bad in a previous life and (according to his beliefs) that might scupper anything he’d do for us ;-)

{Ed025's Note - i think i may be a part of that cult bobby...being born a blue mate..

28 Apr 2018 05:29:42
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