Everton Banter Archive May 27 2013

27 May 2013 21:25:21
Rather get mike walker out of retirement than have martinez, out of curiosity, what has martinez ever done for a football club? Apart from relegation battle after relegation battle that is.

Oh for god's sake, stop it. Do you even watch any football?

Won the FA Cup.

Stop moaning and support new boss whoever he is.

We will support the new manager. when the club decide to appoint one ffs at this rate we will have nobody to take pre season since Moyes is taking the entire backroom staff as well!

At last, some good news.

Is it moaning or expressing concerns and expressing our opinions, or have we all fell under billy's spell and therefore accept every thing that we are told is right for our club, according to him {Ed025's Note - we all have opinions mate, the club is important to us, and sometimes passions run high,but we all want whats best for the club, so dont take things so personally..

28 May 2013 09:42:27
i support everton. would like a good manager but if he's poor i'll still support the blues. born not manufactured. pistol pete

27 May 2013 21:12:48
Vítor Pereira and direction of the FC Porto SAD returned to meet early this week. After a first meeting for both parties put on the table their ideas, this second meeting allowed align positions on some matters.

The values ​​of the new contract presented to the technician as well as the duration thereof are at this point matching between the two sides. Is not there a possible separation of paths can occur. These matters, underscore are peaceful.

FC Porto intends to continue the reign of coach Vítor Pereira and is proud with this expression of confidence.

The "wear trembling 'of the last two seasons and erosion respective emotional Maisfutebol know, are the reasons why Vitor Pereira to ponder a move abroad.

This reflection will last at most until the end of the week. If you stay, Vítor Pereira have its powers strengthened if out, England is the destination more than likely.

27 May 2013 21:52:29
Er I got a masters degree but could some one explain what that means

Are you Manuel from Fawlty Towers?

That's Google translate for you, Portuguese to Gibberish at the push of a button!

Don't understand it myself? its been translated from a Portuguese news paper so translation to English may not be the best.

28 May 2013 07:25:46
Fair enough!

27 May 2013 20:09:51
This is like waiting for results of blood tests - sort it everton people getting fed up now.
Mushy

27 May 2013 19:05:57
Do you think that this site gets so much traffic that me stating the day before it was in the papers that a non domestic manager had met the club and agreed a pre contract with us that all of a sudden 24 hours later newspapers in Portugal, Brazil and England ran the same story. Everyone bangs on about MY ego, Jesus wept I don't think for one second posting on a site I feel is full of true Evertonians would force international newspapers to post after me. I just got the same info as them from a major share holder who would be involved in this decision.
Many of you need to get a grip. I was quiet because I couldn't be assed responding to every negative post about me, but enough is enough, any one of you would put what I did up if the person that gave you the info was the person that gave it to me. I give up.
This week VP will choose Everton or Porto after that I will find out who else we are targeting but Lennon, Neville, Weir are not on the agenda neither big Dunc or Stubbs, Martinez is of interest but has not even been approached.

Svenny {Ed025's Note - i for one appreciate your info svenny..

"We love you svenny we do we love you svenny we do", we just don't believe you that's all

Fair one Svenny. I don't doubt that if I had that information I'd share it. You're damned if you do mate, but not quite damned if you don't since folks would be none the wiser. You seem pretty genuine to me.

100% martinez is the only one who has been offered the job and that's the truth just waiting on him. Might happen tomorrow.

Don't take it personally Svenny, I enjoyed reading your information. Didn't believe it but then I don't believe any of the rumours until I see that person standing holding Everton merchandise at Goodison after signing. Thanks for sharing the info & you seem genuine enough to me as well.

Svenny, you are getting fed up with people having a go at you but I for one am getting fed up with you playing the victim. Not everyone agrees all the time so brush it off and man up.

28 May 2013 00:01:23
fair play svenny I have seen your previous posts and your never too far off the mark. as fletch said don't let the barstewards grid ya down

27 May 2013 18:01:29
Hi there all, hold tight but Phil neville has this job nailed on! Cheap and good and just completing his coaching badges too! Get yer money on him fact! {Ed025's Note - i did not believe you at first chris...but then you said ... fact!...so it must be true.. :)

So you'd rather have Neville over Duncan Ferguson in the dug out? If we're going down the internal route DF for me all day long

Moyes put him forward and a few players have! He's a very high professional person and gains lots of respect! Team is good and only will start to play better so neville the man and this will be announced nect week!!

Considering you don't even know how to spell next, I will cease this conversation as I take it I'm talking to a minor, Phil Neville? That's an insult!

Could Neville be an incredible outside the box choice to lead Everton. He could possibly be a young brilliant football mind that'll lead Everton into a long-lasting Dynasty. Or he be an in over his head debacle that leads to relegation. Either way we may never know until after a season or two of play. No matter who the coach is this with the same formula it will take time. How well is Neville appreciated by his teammates and would he make a good coach for the team for whom he has played? We simply should support whoever the management chooses to coach the team.

28 May 2013 00:03:08
he said FACT edd must be true lllooooolllll

27 May 2013 17:44:07
Lay off Svenny guys, he stated it would be announced this week and its only Monday

Personally I don't believe him anyway but at least let's give him till Friday before we slate the lad

Degsy

27 May 2013 16:07:01
I want O'Neill, think he gets good signings {Ed025's Note - then you my friend...are deluded!..

If Martin O'Neil ever become Everton manager I'd nail my season ticket to my seat and never go the game again until he was removed. Truly the most overrated and annoying manager of all time, Pardew comes close in second.

BitterBlue {Ed025's Note - im with you bitter..

Yet another relegation fodder

A friend if mine had what I think is a reasonable idea. Now he's free look at Mike Phelan, he was well thought of at Utd. {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

With neville On coaching staff. Strange shout but he'd have to be a clever little call. certainly worth thinking about. Jlaff

Strange shout, one of the worst shouts you mean, one of the most anti-footballing managers around

Well guess who the Porto boss was no 2 for? If vp can learn and contribute so much to Avb then surely phelan as SAFs right hand man must have considerable knowledge and respect from the utd team and fans. don't be too hasty with negative assessment of him. In comparison to DF, David weir, stubbs, Neville, Martinez, vp etc. he could arguably be more experienced in many many ways. SAF does not suffer fools lightly. just a thought. jlaff

I agree with jlaff. Just because he doesn't come out all guns blazing it doesn't mean that he doesn't know what's going on. The results don't lie, the only question is whether he his just suitable as the number 2.

Agreed dave882. there's only one way to find out. a gamble but no worse than a lot of the other names mentioned IMHO. Jlaff

Bryan Kidd was one of the most highly rated number 2's out there. Then he went to Blackburn. Number 2 was a phrase used to describe his management skills there. Blue Lee

Blue lee yer right but there are also opposites to that. so you never know.?. any new aoppointment is a gamble. Jlaff

27 May 2013 15:53:48
Svenny and Solomon are the same person spouting off the same lies! Nobody knows anything and we will find out when we find out its as simple as that people! let's see why happens and not get suckered into the media rubbish

No they're not Svenny has got club inside sources and I think VP will be announced this week

No we are not, I live in Sweden and I'm pretty sure eds can tell that from ip addresses and such. Say what you want but I post under one name and only post what I'm told, or I make it very clear it's MY opinion

Svenny

27 May 2013 15:28:48
NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM.

So why have we got that new badge. It is far from the best seen several re-workings that I much prefer to this. Here is a link to my preference www.biggertmedia. deviantart. come then type everton-home-kit in search

Why change it - if it ain't broke

WEST AUS BLUE

Opps auto correct link is

www.biggertmedia. deviantart. com

That's my design! Thanks for the appreciation mate!

Love the badge it's better than the current one kits alright too {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

That does look quality steve!

AussieBlue

27 May 2013 15:08:30
This manager business is taking the piss hurry up Bill ffs {Ed025's Note - it does need sorting ASAP..

I'm with you mate. this length of delay can be interpreted to be the behaviour of a board that is dithering or has a clear Game plan (depending on who their target is). BK if you or your colleagues by chance look at this form. even if the mgr position is still to be decided. you need to communicate with us fans as to what's going on. together we are the club. neither can exist without the other. Tell us that you are negotiating or whatever the reason for such a lengthy delay. Appointment of the manager as early as possible is necessary for many reasons as we all know. Loyal but frustrated supporter. jlaff

27 May 2013 14:50:42
Why are talking about Martinez, Periera, Weir, Neville etc etc when there seems to be one manager almost at the end of his reign who wouldn't cost anything and just thinking about what he's won recently ermm. besides the league by 25 points and the Champions League. oh and he's still got the Cup final coming up too for a treble!. Jupp Heynckes. Has Blue Bill even bothered to ask if he'd be interested?. He might not be cheap but he'll have a pension coming in too and let's be honest Moyesie wasn't exactly on minimum wage was he!. Love the site Eds!

That's a dream too far!

One crucial point you're missing. He's now retired.

27 May 2013 13:58:07
Where is Svenny come on lad tell us the daily rag is lying uhhhhh 5 mill no way. Stef the blue

I posted earlier. Look my information has not changed, we offered him a contract, he accepted the terms, went back to Porto, what has changed is that Porto have offered him a new contract that was not on the table when we spoke to him. He has to decide if he wants to manage in England or stay in Porto. For me if i'm being non bias Porto probably has more going for it than we do BUT if he wants a go in England then we are the only club offering him the chance.
Svenny

Rubbish, so if he resigns for Porto your info looks good! I think you know nothing to be honest, like the statement you made that a chairman in the Swedish league gave you info on it! How does he know when well more than half of evertons own staff don't know! If he knew the media would know, or does BK just spurt out info to random chairmen in Sweden?

He knew because he has enquired with his manager about two loan signings for a couple of Porto players, no decision could be made. Yes I know Moutinho and Rodriguez were sold but even if Jose was still in charge nobody turns down 7mill.
Seriously everyone is so aggressive, I have a very close connection to someone with a major shareholding stake in everton. Get over it. I am forwarding what I know. After a couple of months ago where I got in poo for giving too much information I have been told to reign it in but they know I relay info I will just do it slightly prior to a press release.
Svenny

27 May 2013 12:06:24
Went into me local last night (York) and was telling some of the reguars I was putting a tenner on VP at 7/1 this morning, came out of pub with £45 quid of other peoples money to put on him as well. now watch, Martinez appointed today and I change pub tonight!
Mushy

27 May 2013 11:37:49
Seems to be a lot of people against Martinez as manager. why? The man has just won the biggest cup competition in the world imagine what he can do with us. Thomas Paul

Isn't the biggest cup competition in the world the World Cup?

Because most blues see it as a backwards step, a manager who has seen his team relegated is not an attractive prospect for top players, we need someone who can take us a few places higher in the league at this moment in time, attractive managers attract quality players, simples!
PS. The FA cup is no longer the greatest cup competition to be in, it's been devalued for years, Champions League is the place to be.

The FA Cup might be regarded as the biggest football cup competition in the world because it probably has the most entrants each year, is open to every FA-affiliated club in the country, and has probably been played for the more years than any other football cup in the world.
However, I agree that the FIFA World Cup is the "biggest" cup (using the term loosely) competition for countries and also think that the UEFA Champions League is the "biggest" cup competition (again using the term loosely) for clubs.
RhinoSoreAss

27 May 2013 11:23:28
Been reading up on the web site about this new badge and all the designing and consulting that went into it, and from reading between the lines it seems that the new badge is the cheapest and easiest to mass produce, sounds like Nike have had more than a little say in this, as always it's about money!

Kurajan

27 May 2013 12:07:23
It will cost them more in the long run when nothing sells.

Don't like the badge, do like nike's financial support, will live with the trade-off ( reluctantly )

What financial support do we get from Nike? I wasn't aware that we got anything. In fact, I heard we were the only club in the world not to benefit financially from wearing Nike. We get c. £3m a year from Kitbag regardless of how much merchandise is sold.

27 May 2013 11:17:24
Anybody know when the Pereira announcement is going to be, supposed to be today at some point?

27 May 2013 11:06:37
On a lighter note Blues, what's the general consensus on the play off, Palace or Watford

I like both managers myself but would like to see Holloway back in the Prem, funny honest guy

Degsy

Hope palace win because I want zola as our manager and he might be tempted to stay at Watford if they were to go up.

27 May 2013 10:18:05
Hey Blues, in response to the new badge I decided to design what I'd like to see as our new kit with a better badge than the awful thing we've been handed. Please give it a look: www.biggertmedia. deviantart.com/#/art/Everton-Home-Kit-2013-14-373699036?_sid=19ebd9f7

27 May 2013 10:46:17
Love it steve

Degsy

Don't like the collar or the dark blue patch, better than the one we are getting though.

Jon

Good stuff Steve, beats the new crest hands down. I'd gladly wear that rather than the other 'thing'.

100% BETTER NO QUESTION. I would buy that shirt and def not getting the one with the new badge

Looks great! Love it

Send it in to the club - it's so obviously miles better

did you see the video on the everton site about how the new badge process was conducted? - a load of people in a committee type process all putting their twopence in - making a mountain out of a molehill - getting paid loads to sit fannying about - and they produce that load of pants

That link's not working for me.

New logo makes tower look like a short fat water tank or a medieval thatched round house. {Ed025's Note - or a bee hive.

Thanks for the appre3ciation of the design blues!

Brilliant steve send a copy to the echo i'm sure it would win the vote hands down even send one to joe anderton c/o liverpool city council once again congratulations coyb

27 May 2013 09:38:37
Hey people! let's get behind Roberto as our manager. I would like to see how Moyes would have done at Wigan, and besides Roberto has won silverware. We need a soild manger to keep us in the top 6 as we will never seriously challenge the top 4. Also Roberto knows a bargain Ashley Williams, Angel Rangel, Valencia, Moses, Kone, Mcmanaman.

Solid manager? Get a grip he's just been relegated!

Think you should support Wigan mate.

What a load of nonsense. "never seriously challenge the top 4". Do one

How would Moyes have done with Wigan? He would have taken them to the top half of the table. Sell your best players and sign bargains, is this not what Moyes has done. No we don't want Martinez otherwise we may get relegated next season.

27 May 2013 08:36:05
I hope kenright doesn't listen to any supporters, I think he has a far better idea of running our beloved Everton than most of our supporters. Why don't we all back our board, our team, our players, our badge, our EVERTON like only we know how! We are EVERTON aren't we! let's support our team and do our job and let kenright do his job!
Blueboys1979

27 May 2013 12:02:58
Are you Bill Kenright?

Most of our supporters have the ambition that Bill seems to be lacking. I can understand waiting for contracts to expire to avoid compensation but most of the names people seem to think likely are not up to managing a top six side. We are no longer fighting for survival like when we got Moyes, just how lucky would we be if we got another championship manager who did the business.

Hear hear blueboys. Well said mate

27 May 2013 07:37:14
Morning guys. I believe that we will be a lot closer to finding out who our new manager is by the end of the day. Vp and rm are expected to give their respected clubs a decision on their futures today which I think will have a direct impact on us. Personally I hope we get vp.

Martinez's decision is tomorrow

27 May 2013 02:46:46
What team does ed 07 support? Not that he's posted anything bad infact he talks a lot of sense i'm just wondering because we know your not an everton fan {Ed025's Note - he is a celtic fan mate..

26 May 2013 23:52:52
The silence is annoying, but the older blues fans will remember the debacle that took place when we thought we had Bobby Robson 'in he bag' only for it to go tits up because word got out. I just feel the Peraira thing gone very quiet good thing or bad?!

They have both asked for time to consider their options over the weekend, so naturally it will be quiet as nothing is happening at the moment. A decision should come Monday, or most likely Tuesday.

Or maybe Wed, Thursday, Fri,,,,,

26 May 2013 22:57:06
Just wondered with the clamour for Pereira, how many fans actually knew much about him, or his record before our need to appoint a new manager. Although I had heard the name, I really did not know much about him, but I must admit that on the face of it that he would appear to be a good fit. I would also have no complaints if Martinez was appointed. If we stay " in house " I would prefer Neville over Stubbs. I would of course give my full support to whoever gets the job and would urge every true Evertonian to do likewise.
With regard to the badge, I'm not offended by the badge itself, but I am by the ommision of NSNO. It feels like we have lost our identity.

Shropshire Blue.