Everton Banter Archive April 27 2014

27 Apr 2014 23:18:49
UEFA regulations state that, "The three highest placed national associations in the UEFA Respect Fair Play ranking will each automatically gain an extra qualification berth for the First Qualifying Round of the UEFA Europa League providing they have exceeded the threshold of games played, and have a minimum average score of 8.0. These berths are then allocated to the highest placed club in that association's own Fair Play league that has not yet qualified for either the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League." (The threshold of games played and the average score of 8.0 certainly doesn't appear to be a problem for our clubs.)
The final UEFA Respect fair play rankings will be published in May 2014, but, at the last time of checking, the top three national associations were Finland, Norway and Sweden, so England - unless they displace one of those by the end of May - won't get an extra qualification berth anyway.
Just out of interest, when last checked, the Premier League Fair Play Table had a top five of Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City - each of whom should qualify for Europe anyway. The next team in the table is Swansea City. Having qualified for this season's UEFA Europa League (having won the League Cup), there's a chance (admittedly remote) that Swansea Coty could qualify for next season as well because of fair play.
Who remembers when football was a simple game? :-)

{Ed025's Note - well its certainly not now sid..

27 Apr 2014 22:18:24
Congratulations to Seamus Coleman, included in PFA Team of the Year . well deserved

27 Apr 2014 20:28:47
Banter please Ed
I saw an article in which Roberto has said he wants 4 strikers in the first team. Now when I read the title I got excited, because I thought we were going to go mental in the transfer market, but after reading the whole thing, I just felt a little disappointed. He's basically said he wants 2 strikers in, as he already has Kone and Naismith. I thought this weird, as even though naisy is on good form, I wouldn't class him as a striker, but more a utility forward, and this can be seen when he plays in the hole, on the wing and upfront. On top of this Martinez wants Traore back on loan, which is a slight disappointment, as he's just been injured, and we've only had him in one game (but he did score so maybe its a good move).

But my point is, effectivly we are only looking to buy one striker. I can't see that being lukaku, as he wants CL, and we're no likely to get that (fingers crossed tho). So who else is there in the market?

We've been linked to loads of strikers such as:

Bacca - Probs the most decent on the list
Sergio Garcia - would rather have Big Vic back
Lukaku - can't see this happening, as he's too expensive, and wants CL
Welbeck - Most likely imo, but that would be so unfortunate for us!
Josep Drmic - he's got arsenal and liverpool after him aswell, he's bound to choose them. But i'd have him
Majeed Waris - Not sure who he is, but I just know he's been linked
Batshuayi - Rumours about him seemed to have died down. Apparently he's good.
Bony - We'd all have him if we had the chance
Alexandre Lacazette -I've been a fan of his this season, get him to Goodison!

So those are the main linked strikers. Who would you guys have.

My perfect transfer window (taking into account budget and position) would be:

IN
Ryan Gauld -2 Mill
Gareth Barry -Free
Jack Colback -Free
Tom Ince -Free
Bruno Martins Indi -7 Mill
Deulofeu - Loan
Traore - Loan (Only because RM wants him)

And 3 of the strikers above

Alexandre Lacazette -12 Mill
Michy Batshuayi -7 Mill
Carlos Bacca -5 Mill

Thats about 30 Million spent on transfers, which is probs about what we have ( I hope)


Really wanna hear your thoughts blues.

Its a good shout that.not sure on ince( bone idol and only thinks of himself) and gauld will be a lot more than 2 mill m8 . about 6 the last I heard.

Good post but I think the fees you have stated are a bit unrealistic!bacca 5 million?when everton enquiries about him they said they want 30 million euroes!guald would be more!ince is shocking, colback is very average but will be just a squad player!i would buy Jordan Rhodes!hes bound 2 be getting fed up with playing championship football!

Oh blimey. I always seem to do that. (Undervalue players). Seems like nobody wants ince, after seeing him at Crystal Palace. Fair enough.but I only put him in because he's free. Yeah Jordan Rhodes wpuld be a good shout, but he's been bought for 10, and Blackburn would probs want 20.

27 Apr 2014 19:23:18
You see the difference between us and your lot is that, most of you would want to get turned over by city, so that we don't win it. Even though most of us wanted to see you in the champions league. Just shows you the difference

Its all banter Kman. take it tongue in cheek. We want to win every game, and ofcourse we want to beat City. We care more about us winning than your lot winning (even if it means having to put up with the kopites raving on about how they are champs) . But that's a sacrifice we have to make for the good of Everton

Don't judge us all the same mate. I personally have to admit that I believe Liverpool deserve to win the league . if they do win it. You have played the best football and scored so many great goals this season. I think the problem as we Evertonian's see it is that some of your supporters have gloated so much over the years that we have grown tired of it. There is banter and there is down right smugness that really gets under your skin. I will be cheering the Blues as always. Along with loads of my mates. I will also try to be humble to reds if you do win it. But at the end. I will be hoping you don't win it. just so I don't have to endure the gloating.

27 Apr 2014 20:44:28
Get off you high horse KMan, if it was they other way round you know you wouldn't really so stop lying.

It all depends on Arsenal's next two results. If they win (which realistically they should) tomorrow night, they play before us next Saturday. If they win that one as well, we know that 4th is gone so we then put out a weakened side (which we might have to do anyway because of injuries) against City. For once I would be happy to lose if it then prevented the reds from winning the League. I know, unlike some of you younger posters, what they were like in the 70s and 80s, rubbing our noses in it at every opportunity. So no, stopping them is a must!

Kman don't comeout with BS saying you lot want us to finish fourth.
for the record myself and every other blue that I know does NOT want you lot to win the league.
why would we?
by the way PMSL yesterday! ha ha ha

You see the difference between us and your lot is that, most of you would want to get turned over by city, so that we don't win it. Even though most of us wanted to see you in the champions league. Just shows you the difference.
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So unbelievably patronising and woefully ill informed. Would you want to see us in the CL if you were below us in the league? Erm, no, I didn't think so. For the record I hope city beat us by double figures so there's no chance of you reversing the goal difference against an abysmal Newcastle side.

Bitter, me? You bet. I despise your disgraceful club like no other. We may never have your glory but, thankfully, we'll never have your shame.

Nice one Trevor Donkey, my sentiments exactly.

27 Apr 2014 19:03:26
All this banter about winning or losing against ManCity in order to prevent Liverpool winning the title is fascinating, but a Premier League campaign is over 38 matches and Liverpool and ManCity and the rest have all dropped points along the way just as we have in our pursuit of Champions League qualification. It's not just one match that wins the title - although there'll always be one match that eventually gets a team to the required winning points total.
Besides - here's a thought - what if the situation was reversed and we were chasing the title and Liverpool "willingly" lost to our title rivals in order to thwart us? We would go completely ballistic!

27 Apr 2014 17:28:04
Are people aware that from next season (2014-2015) the runners up in the FA Cup - when defeated by a team that has already qualified for Europe - will NOT get a place in the following season's (2015-2016) UEFA Europa League. This season is the last (until the regulations change yet again!) when a team like Hull City could lose the FA Cup final and still get into the UEFA Europa League because the FA Cup winners (in this case Arsenal) have already qualified for Europe because of their league position.
Basically, a team will have to either win the FA Cup or win the League Cup or finish high enough in the Premier League in order to qualify for the UEFA Europa League as one of England's three representatives.
(There's also a Fair Play place available that could give us a fourth representative, but that depends on national and club rankings.)

{Ed025's Note - good info sid...cheers..

The fair play position is a complete joke. Last time I looked, Liverpool were top. This is the team that has Skirtl rip yer shirt-ov. the well known Russian defender and Suarez make yer bite clean then dive. Not counting Stevie let's surround the ref until we get someone booked. We are apparently let down by our fans and officials behaviour towards the opposition fans and officials. Like I said.a joke.

27 Apr 2014 15:11:20
Still hoping for 4th but if we finish 5th would we be in the group stages or qualifiers of the europa cheers

We'd go straight into the groups griff.

I thought that the team finishing 5th went into the Play-Off round, which is the knockout round immediately before the Group stage.
The team finishing 6th goes into the Third Qualifying round, which is the knockout round immediately before the Play-Off round.
If Hull City win the FA Cup, they'll go straight into the Group stage.
However - if Hull City are FA Cup runners up, then they'll go into the Third Qualifying round and the team finishing 6th move up into the Play-Off round. By the same token, my understanding is that the team finishing 5th will get moved up into the Group stage.
I'm happy for others to correct my understanding :-)

27 Apr 2014 14:05:47
Connor Wickham came back to Sunderland and scored 5 goals in 3 matches (2 v City, 1 v Chelsea and 2 v Cardiff) Interesting player!

{Ed025's Note - i think sunderland is as high as he can aim majshel..

27 Apr 2014 12:20:50
Hallam Hope scores hatrick for Bury. But should he have been on the bench for us yesterday?

Well done to him for his hat trick, but it's a massive step-up from lower league football to the Premier League. He's on loan to help him develop, mature and progress as a professional footballer and see how he reacts to the challenges of playing properly competitive matches against tough experienced players.
If he carries on doing well, then I'm sure RM will give him a chance when the time is right.

Did you see our bench on Saturday?

27 Apr 2014 10:17:12
Successful season Martinez has done great. Next season look forward whoever come to patch our weak point.

Alex McCarthy I've never believed Joel is good.

Stefan DeVrij we 've already confirmed we should have more good CB.

Claudio Yacob is Barry successor.

Bony is final answer for striker.

27 Apr 2014 13:30:01
alex mccarthy had one good game vs liverpool, he's not that good and yacob is woeful, cannot pass and gives away fouls constantly, no thank you

26 Apr 2014 22:00:37
Hey ed, was watching our boys give everything. I'm so proud of them, they gave everything this season. Our problem was squad rotation too many injuries Kone was such a loss, Jags, Oviedo the list goes on. The boys were knackered today. It is blatantly obvious we need reinforcements, the board will have to get their thumbs out of you know where and support Robbie, I feel with our youth talent and the right blend of experience and we hold on to our key players, I firmly believe we have a league winning side. Really looking forward to next season or maybe with the help of the barcodes maybe this season. I HEARD NO BELL YET. Let me know ed, what sort of reinforcements should we get in do you have any names you might suggest.


NISI SATIS NIHIL OPTIMUM

COYB

{Ed025's Note - we need at least 4 in for me EB, at least 1 striker, a midfielder, a winger and defender, bobby and bill will have an idea of who, but im afraid im not privvy to that information mate, but personally i would love bony to come..