Everton Banter Archive January 26 2016

 

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26 Jan 2016 22:48:30
Ah well, was good while it lasted lads, 21 years and counting.

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26 Jan 2016 22:34:02
If that lot fell from 40,000 feet from a crashing Airbus, they would (aaag God you know the end) .
God I'm fed up!

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26 Jan 2016 22:16:59
Wow, watching Stoke tonight was fantastic to watch a team that know the art of defending. makes us look even more of a joke at the back really. Hughesy is welcome to the gates of Goodison any time he likes!

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26 Jan 2016 22:31:57
I'm amazed they didn't concede, then again Liverpool didn't have a striker the whole match and were poor.

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26 Jan 2016 21:35:01
Hope RM is watching the Stoke game as it is a lesson on how to see a match through.

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26 Jan 2016 22:32:11
Yeah worked well.

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26 Jan 2016 22:39:14
Hope he has had the players practicing penalties just in case.

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26 Jan 2016 21:29:03
Look Dunc I feel it is down to confidence. If there is a lack of confidence in any player it pervades throughout the whole team.
If you look at Stoke's league positions the last few seasons they have been perennially below Everton bar one or two seasons. With confidence we are a top six team. Stoke are usually mid table. Under Moyes we were always ahead and even Martinez' 1st. The problem is because of a clueless nanager.
Another barometer is check our first 11 team and see how many play for their country on a regular basis. You will find that nearly all are currently playing at present. I don't think Stoke can boast that. Even Konehead plays for his country fairly often.

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26 Jan 2016 22:38:01
Of course it is down to confidence and that plus current form then Stoke overall are better. Martinez 1st season is not a barometer, I said it at the time and repeat it now, Martinez methods did not have time to affect the defence because if you remember when we did have a slight blip our defenders did what they had done under Moyes and that was to put bodies on the line. Last season he said he had a good Squad, this season he says we have the best Squad for years and even that it is to large. The bloke is deluded, but somehow he manages to convince owners/ chairmen he is the best thing since sliced bread.

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26 Jan 2016 21:13:54
Would love to have stokes AUNATAVIC (not sure on spelling) strong, fast, tracks back and scores.

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26 Jan 2016 22:00:08
I like him Jay, cracking player.

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26 Jan 2016 22:15:32
Jose said he has attitude of baby I've had read recently.

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{Ed025's Note - and who,s jose to call anyone a baby?..

26 Jan 2016 22:32:48
He does have a terrible attitude to be fair, was obvious even at Goodison.

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Eto'o Breaks Up Fan Protest, Leicester Dismiss Schmeichel Talk, Massa Lets The Duck Out Of The Bag And More

26 Jan 2016 20:46:43
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Eto'o Breaks Up Fan Protest, Leicester Dismiss Schmeichel Talk, Massa Lets The Duck Out Of The Bag And More

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26 Jan 2016 20:30:01
With all respect SB Mark Hughes would take this club because it has better players than Stoke. He is doing marvelously with average players what can he do with brilliant players.
The players are underperforming due to a poor manager, they are not poor players just lacking in confidence with their manager and GK. With a better manager I feel they would be in a higher league position than Stoke and West Ham or Southampton. With the right manager I feel we would be challenging for the title.
We have dropped 14 points that we should not have lost. That would leave us 4 points behind Leicester and challenging for the title.
We should gave bet Swansea (no disrespect to the swans) but they have been leaking goals all season. We conceded 4 goals to Stoke when we were 3-1 up, should have closed out that game. We were 2-0 and 3-2 up against Chelsea and we should have closed out the game. We were 3-2 up against Bournemouth and there was so little time left we should have closed out that game also.
So you see that's why he would take the Everton job. He hss very little hope of winning a league title with Stoke, but a better chance with Everton.
I also forgot to mention, Hughes being a former blues player knows the club's history, ethos and just how darn good the current squad is.

COYB.

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26 Jan 2016 20:51:27
I was there watching Stoke take us apart at will, poor old Galloway didn't know what to do with them on his side of the pitch. They looked like they had some very good players to be fair.

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26 Jan 2016 22:44:03
It's not a given that he would take the job, if it was available, when he has started building his squad at Stoke. I think it is a bit disrespectful to write them off as a team or as individuals. They have shown this season that they can play a bit, not just when they beat us at home.
Neither of these teams are capable of winning the league, confidence can only get you so far so you need a bit more than that. It's silly to think that Hughes could walk in, make the players feel ten foot tall and we would reach first place. Stones is a confident lad but he still needs to defend better as do, indeed, the entire team.

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27 Jan 2016 00:18:30
This is not the Stoke of 5 years ago. Take another look. Their squad has some really good players that I would more than welcome into ours.

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26 Jan 2016 18:47:57
they will have full support tomorrow from me no matter who plays. Then I will speak afterwards. All I ask is that they give it there all for 90 mins. Show some passion for the top I would love to wear and play in for free.

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26 Jan 2016 17:01:44
Any chance of us SUPPORTERS putting their opinion of Martinez and Howard to one side and getting behind the team for the next few important games?

Would make a very refreshing change to recent weeks.

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26 Jan 2016 17:07:46
Would it change anything, no? Moan on then lads.

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26 Jan 2016 17:28:20
More likely to change something than moaning that's for sure.

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26 Jan 2016 17:52:41
well Robles in goal and I can see us beating city.

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26 Jan 2016 18:58:30
Definition from dictionary. To support: to ​agree with and give ​encouragement to someone or something because you ​want him, her, or it to ​succeed: NO MENTION OF MOANING THERE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.

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{Ed025's Note - i like that degs..

26 Jan 2016 23:26:51
I've been positive throughout.

When is the best time to moan though?

Obviously we'll all be behind the team, manager and players tomorrow but back to business as usual Thursday?

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26 Jan 2016 14:16:32
Fair enough. I do think Mark Hughes could be no. 1 and I feel he would taie the job if offered. We do have a better squad both 1st 11 and bench.
Though Koeman would also be good. Defensive and attack minded if there was ever such a thing. He did score a lot of goals as a defender. Would sort out our defensive frailties.
Those would be my first 2 choices.

COYB.

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26 Jan 2016 14:32:38
My issue with Koeman is he's no different to Martinez, great first season, doing awful 2nd season, the fact he plays someone like Victor Wanyama also scares me.

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26 Jan 2016 15:54:03
No disrespect to our club or fans but why would Hughes come to us they are higher in the league and playing better football?

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{Ed025's Note - i suppose we see ourselves as a bigger club SB, plus the fact he did play for us, he has got stoke playing some good stuff actually mate..

26 Jan 2016 16:01:29
Slaven Bilic for me. Maybe then we might not lose very transfer target to west ham.

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26 Jan 2016 17:58:48
De Boer brothers for me.at least one knows about attacking and the other knows how to defend.not sure which one is the manager out of the two tho.

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26 Jan 2016 18:16:14
Swan Southampton are doing better than us. Taking account of all the players they sold Koeman is doing a great job there so he the man to take the hot seat imo.

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26 Jan 2016 18:21:42
Is Koeman not doing a good job at Southampton this season, they must be 7th or 8th in EPL. So he's doing a better job than most other managers.

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26 Jan 2016 20:11:12
Is this the same Mark Hughes that is playing long balls to Crouch tonight? Yeah lovely stuff.

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26 Jan 2016 20:56:00
That's called adapting your team to play on the opposing teams weakness. That's called good management. He has identified a weakness in their defence and is simply trying to exploit it.

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26 Jan 2016 22:33:33
What weakness? Crouch was invisible all game, why didn't he do this at the Brittania?

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26 Jan 2016 14:02:00
If any of you blues know anyone that ha a spare for tomorrow then please let me know
My lads coach operator booked his seat but only told him yesterday that he didn't book his ticket
He's 16 season ticket holder and this season has started going away games
Proper blue boy who is right now absolutely devastated
If you can help it would make his world.

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26 Jan 2016 14:01:20
Anyone else seen Roberto's latest interview, prior to the City game. I have seen other Managers, some currently in a worse position than us and some in better position than us but all of them sooner or later accept responsibility for their Teams poor performance. Not this bloke, always someone else or something else, just not him. The other thing is, how come the media don't ask him about the Teams performance and his role in it.

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26 Jan 2016 14:08:06
Well said, it used to annoy me when Mourinho blamed the medical staff or the computers. Roberto is worse, why can't he just say we haven't been good enough and I'm a tit for playing Howard. But no it's all "we have nothing to lose", whatever that means, if we lose then the season is finished and goes down as worse than last season, nothing to lose, ha! . He's even started saying results don't matter it's all about the performance, be a good excuse when we are in the championship then.

God he's so annoying and arrogant, please get rid of him.

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26 Jan 2016 14:22:39
i agree, the good news is though, finally pundits are starting to slate him. The pressure is intensifying a little bit at last, he doesn't deserve his job currently and he needs to change. maybe Roberto will finally accept that. He's had the feeling of safety for to long, and has got complacent in my opinion.

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26 Jan 2016 16:40:56
I ask all my mate's when after each game we all have r points on the game but everyone of us all want the fool out he never played above the old 3rd division along with Jones and lawrence yet here they are with drones and I pads showing professional footballers far better than they ever were what to do on a football pitch it's shocking to think are club has gone so low as to have the three stooges in charge also were is the fat goalie coach you don't see him anymore doing the 2nd half warm up for Howard it's now robles another clown employed by martinez p****d off if we lose to city he should spew it but he won't arrogant little sorry boys can't say the word but I know you all know it coyb let's get to wembo.

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26 Jan 2016 18:31:55
That other little gob Jones is even coming out with the Martinez catchphrase "Phenomonal " (however you spell it) in his latest interviews.

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26 Jan 2016 13:17:15
Leeds want McGeady on loan, please God make this happen.

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26 Jan 2016 14:08:32
Yes.

Wonder if they need a new goalkeeper.

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25 Jan 2016 21:44:27
I know this will be slated by some but would you think ed that Benitez would be a better replacement. I am only putting this acrosd as something to think about.
What does everyone think. I would be very interested.

COYB.

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{Ed025's Note - not for me emerald, "everton a small club" and all that automatically rules him out mate..

26 Jan 2016 13:11:52
No way Pedro, burnt his bridges with the snide comments about our club, we all need to forget about this guy as never going to happen.

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26 Jan 2016 14:23:25
The reality is that he'd do a good job. But I can't accept him running our club after managing them.

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26 Jan 2016 13:45:02
Agree ed 100 per cent.

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26 Jan 2016 12:39:06
Rm interview he still don't get it does he. We should be prepared for the game as it is a one off. Seriously. We should be prepared for every game. We controlled the second half. Ye we did loads of possession no goals tho. Possession is pointless without goals and 3 points. Des he needs to go.

I love Everton and have stood by everyone for 37 years but he is a clown and I realised it on Sunday.

Anyway I'm going for a sneaky 1-0 win for us
My team would be Robles Coleman stones jag baines
McCarthy Barry cleverly Barkley lakaku 5-3-2 with Barkley linking up the mid and lakaku.

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26 Jan 2016 13:13:59
The old Everton philosophy may come good here mate, whenever we expect to win we get battered, whenever we expect a hiding we win, I think if we get an early goal it could be interesting

Im going for 3-0 Everton, 4-1 on aggregate with Lukaku last goal, I know Blues ridiculous but I will get a decent bet in one day.

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26 Jan 2016 14:27:33
Degs mate. The aggregate should be 5-1 if it's 3-0 on the night. We're 2-1 up. I hope you can adjust you flutter mate lol.

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26 Jan 2016 17:14:56
ha ha Ace, Dopey Degs, cold weather in work affecting my grey matter mate.

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26 Jan 2016 23:04:24
That's a good one 😄😄😄😄.

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25 Jan 2016 22:30:20
This guys dead in the water and we are becoming a defensive laughing stock but we are excited about a semi final in the bloody milk cup!
We've only played one decent team to get to this stage and miraculously we only let one goal in at home against them.

At least we're away because obviously the players are nervous playing at home.
Not as nervous as the poor bloody supporters who quiet frankly are sh#$ting themselves at the inept defending and goalkeeping 'skills' that has been Everton since this joke manager was given the job.
Hope we win but it will only paper over the cracks over a shambolic episode in this clubs great history.
Please go RM you have done enough damage to pull this round.

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26 Jan 2016 14:24:19
Completely agree he should go. but there is nothing embarrassing about being a cup semi with a possible view to Europe from it.

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26 Jan 2016 14:29:34
Can't argue with that Mushy.

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26 Jan 2016 11:41:37
Ed or a Blue in the finance know how

If we are in due diligence can we actually buy or sell a player, would this not affect the price of the club etc

Asking because if we cannot buy or sell anyone when in this phase then with Naisy gone it looks like there is no Takeover, need a Business Blue to get onto this one or Grumpy Ed if he fancies it.

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{Ed002's Note - Due diligence has no impact on transfers at all.}

26 Jan 2016 12:17:53
The Americans interested in Everton just bought a company in Cork Ireland.

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26 Jan 2016 12:26:02
Cheers Ed.

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26 Jan 2016 15:27:08
Ed002, is due diligence still going on? Lots of people saying they have backed out of negotiations? .

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know Swan and I would have to check. I am going to be away for a couple of days so remind me on Thursday.}

26 Jan 2016 11:35:13
what would be a good/ bad transfer window? my good be would a proven goalscorer to give lukaku competition/ rest, a good number 10 to give barkley competition/ rest, my bad would be selling stones on last day, get him sold now, to free up transfer money for these two signings and a decent squad defender.

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Barcelona Defender Dismisses Social Media Investigation As Henderson Backs Klopp's Training Methods At Liverpool + More

26 Jan 2016 11:09:36
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Barcelona Defender Dismisses Social Media Investigation As Henderson Backs Klopp's Training Methods At Liverpool + More

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26 Jan 2016 08:50:16
Just a curious one here, but do you think if we had of signed Payet or Wijnaldum in the summer, that we would be in a better league position now, we are crying out for a midfielder who can bang in 10 a season.

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26 Jan 2016 10:27:27
Problem is not scoring goals it's letting them in at other end. We need a keeper and manager who can coach team to defend simple as.

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26 Jan 2016 10:27:27
Problem is not scoring goals it's letting them in at other end. We need a keeper and manager who can coach team to defend simple as.

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26 Jan 2016 10:28:38
payet defiantly would of made diffrence he is quailty.

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26 Jan 2016 08:38:50
I said last weekend what a massive game it was, and what I meant was in terms of the teams confidence going forward, we all know you cannot take results for granted in this league but a struggling Swansea at home should have been a 3 point banker and putting the side in a confident mood going into Wednesdays semi, however it has had totally the opposite effect! Again tactics were naïve and Swansea outthought us, mainly because we are so predictable. So much now rides on the game tomorrow it is a chance of a cup final and some direction to finish the season on a high, however defeat and I can see heads again dropping and the imminent danger of freefalling downwards.
At what point will the board step in? with Bill's situation the fact we have only had 2 managers in 15 years then the frightening fact is that they are reactive not proactive and will it all be to late?
I have no intentions of joining the doom mongers but have great concerns at this point that our manager has indeed lost the dressing room and the team are not responding to his tactics or believing in his philosophy any more! On top of that he has as much admitted that we have problems and he does not seem to know how to put them right.

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26 Jan 2016 07:54:14
Is it just me but how much more sense does Gareth Barry talk compared to bobby just read the sky interview he's done no blaming of the fans and basically being honest.

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26 Jan 2016 08:12:46
Barry for manager lol.

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26 Jan 2016 09:39:55
Don't know about manager but I'd certainly have him do press conferences before bobby bull.

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26 Jan 2016 07:27:55
here is a question for you all who would sacrifice a league cup final place for the manager to be sacked I know I should not be asking this but I have thought about it am just been honest, because I personally think we go out he's gone if we win he stays, I think at present 90% of fans want him gone and if we go out 100% will be shouting for him to go its defo isn't a nice place to be at the mo, I could feel the anger in the crowd sun and its getting worse, only that we are in the semi that this isn't happening yet.

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26 Jan 2016 07:34:40
my replacement would be stubbs.

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26 Jan 2016 07:54:55
I have been consistent (from his appointment day one) in saying this man is not for us and I take no pleasure to be proved right (pity our CEO/ Chairman/ Board do not see the same) . However, I want my Team to win every time they step onto the pitch. The other way of looking at it of course is that even if we lose against City it is very far from certain that this Board would sack Martinez and zero possibility of this fraud falling on his sword.

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26 Jan 2016 08:07:12
Why Stubbs?

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26 Jan 2016 10:43:13
I have to say I sadly agree with you muff.
I have never been a supporter of RM but also hoped I would be proved wrong.
Also I have been to see EFC in semi finals v LFC (ie the famous Maine Rd game with Clive Thomas ) and so many Wembley games and yet to see us win and the pain of those loses was too much to bear.
So the thought of us playing them and loosing again which we undoubtledly would because they may be poor but have a manager who at least shows passion and whenever we pkay them we freeze, I would rather loose to City and hopefully loose Martinez and not suffer the pain of playing and loosing to them at Wembley once again.
irony is I think we will beat city .
other coincidence is many supportes wanted us to loose last year to prevent LFC winning league.
I AM NOT BEING DEFEATEST JUST REALISTIC!

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Ronaldinho In Near Miss, Football Leaks Reveals Arsenal And Real Madrid Deal And More

26 Jan 2016 05:39:19
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Ronaldinho In Near Miss, Football Leaks Reveals Arsenal And Real Madrid Deal And More

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26 Jan 2016 02:50:48
Feeling for Gareth Barry. Martinez the clown said he was one of the English greats. We all know that is not true. That brought uneeded bad comments directed at Barry.

Is Barry perhaps one of the most underrated English players? I'd agree with that statement alright. Martinez is starting to make mockeries of his own players. And the worst thing is he doesn't even realise he's doing it.

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26 Jan 2016 06:57:26
I have another take on Martinez abilities (or lack of) . Yes he may be good at bringing in young talent, either from the outside or recognising them from our own internal sources but and here is the rub, those such as Stones, Barkley, Galloway etc! he is actually making ordinary by his tactics and insistence that it is his way or no way. Stones in particular will benefit from moving on as a good coach/ manager will revisit the basics of defence with him, while allowing his other skills to naturally come through.

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26 Jan 2016 02:37:33
I would not fancy LVG as our next manager, but, at least he has had enough class to admit he has let down the supporter and the club, and offered to resign, no such hope that the spanish fraud might show a little of the same integrity. Give him his pound of flesh, then send him on his way. It would be worth 5m to get the smell of that man out of the building.

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26 Jan 2016 01:13:52
Swan, I'm in good form. I'm after creaming myself over Moyes. Very delightful.

You weren't around when Moyes took over. Read your post below. Didn't get to read much today but I read it. You seem to be panicking about being relegated. I'm delighted you are.

Maybe then you'll experience what the rest of us have when Moyes took over. I don't want us to struggle but if we do I'll be very interested to see your comments. Your obviously totally against Martinez.

If we drop to the bottom of the table and every game look like Villa is now I'd be delighted to see who you'd like to see as manager.

You be screaming for Moyes, Pulis type manager.

Then and only then will you appreciate one, What they can do and two saving the club. You never seen the tough times.

I'm very grateful for what Moyes done for this club. Yes he was well paid. Yes he got it hard to beat the top 4. Yes he wasn't great with strikers but by god he sorted this club out and got us the end of the table where we should be.

I have a big club mentality in keeping Everton in the premiership. I was very happy with Moyes as manager. Name a manager you were happy with at Everton?

Your comments do be a lot more negative than mine. Seen your comment earlier about me not contributing positively. Overall I'm far more positive than your posts.

You talk about big club mentality just makes me laugh and your constant criticism of Martinez, the Board, Moyes is unbelievable. You concentrate 90% on the negative stuff.

I for one appreciate Moyes for helping sustain the big club status as you call it and kept us in the premiership. I appreciate Bill for everything he has done also. I even appreciate Martinez for certain things like signing Barry, Lukaku, McCarthy and Del boy.

So if these hard times do come you'll learn how to appreciate being a premiership team. Instead of thinking we're automatically entitled to it. It has to be worked for.

You just don't win things by having a big club mentality as you put it.

You earn it by hard graft and not taking things for granted. Respecting others and working hard for the club.

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26 Jan 2016 04:32:42
I don't understand this post. Are you hoping that we return to the Walter Smith days?

Hoping to stay in the premiership is not a big club mentality. Talking about having a Moyes or Pulis when you're struggling at the bottom should not even be a topic of conversation with our current squad. You want us appreciate being in the top division? Do you think that United, Arsenal or our red neighbours think like this?

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26 Jan 2016 11:22:51
You obviously didn't read the post properly Pod.

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26 Jan 2016 00:23:26
With Lukaku and Stones definitely going in the summer and Howard still being out number 1, not to mention Martinez still being in charge. We are under serious threat of relegation, listen, you can deny it all you want but things are only getting worse and are only going to get worse. The takeover was the only thing that could save this club, apparently that's not happening so prepare for the worst people, we are going to be like Villa very soon unless the people higher up grow some balls, which of course they won't, and sack Martinez and change something quickly. I don't want to hear any "oh it will destabilise us", that's nonsense, when things are GUARANTEED to fail, you do not stay with it and hope it fixes itself, you do something about it.

Looking at past seasons under Moyes and it's shocking how bad we have become. Now Moyes, who I strongly dislike for obvious reasons, had us finishing top 8 regularly, but he of course doesn't have the ability to take anyone higher than that, even the champions as we all saw. So I don't want to go back to the hoof ball days again, however, we are going to become irrelevant if this man stays in charge. I can't see any way out of this for him, he doesn't listen to reason and refuses to change. I'm not just talking about the goalkeeper either, letting Stones get away with what he does isn't good coaching or letting him learn, it's lazy coaching. Stones has actually regressed, 2 seasons ago and even last season he was instinctive and brilliant at defending. Don't listen to this crap from people now who have this myth that he can't defend, he can and when he can he does it as well as anybody I've seen. But the issue is, if we are letting him iron out his mistakes, we are doing it so he's better for the next team he joins so we get nothing from it.

Martinez has brought in great players, Lukaku being the best striker I've ever seen at Everton. Besic being quality, Deulofeu, Galloway, Lennon and Barry to name a few. The odd fails like McGeady and Alcaraz come to mind. But his transfer success is very good indeed. But that is more like a director of football than a manager. He's bringing the quality in but doesn't have the first clue on how to use it. 280 goals in 4 seasons at Wigan, that's a joke, he isn't confident, he's like Wenger of the past 8 seasons, arrogant. Arrogant in thinking this brand of football can do it all. Wenger has changed this season and they are being more dynamic and unpredictable. How long until Martinez learns this? When we are in league 2 with Wigan? . The man is a nice fella but he is destroying my football club, fans who sit there saying "do you think we have a right to trophies" and other drivel really sicken me. Course we have no right to anything, does that mean we shouldn't want or try for them? No of course not, that is all I want, to see Everton be successful, still yet to see us win a trophy. Problem is there is too many fans chuffed with mediocrity.

Martinez blaming the fans, what a load of tosh. I've made my feelings known on here and I stand by them, giving abuse to players is ridiculous. Are fans right to moan though and be annoyed when at 2-1 down Stones is walking with the ball? Yes, are fans right to moan when Howard messes up AGAIN and Martinez plays him the next game? Yes, are fans right to be annoyed when he gives the players no responsibility and they are walking around carelessly? Let me think, YES. At Goodison, our best games (Chelsea etc) are when we come out the blocks flying, get a shot in early and put some tackles in. That gets the fans going and that translates from the players doing that. Look at Neville on Ronaldo, Rom bullying Liverpool's 3 centre backs by himself and Besic on Toure. That's why the majority of fans love players like Naismith and Besic and even Mirallas, they are willing to get physical and stand up. Jags isn't a leader I'm sorry he's not. I hated it when Gerrard used to chew the referees ear over everything, boy I wish we did it though. The only player having a go at the ref on sunday was Tom Cleverley, clearly having the Man Utd mindset still. Too many quiet players, no one shouts or barks instruction, the gentlemen's club we are. Issue is the 3 I mentioned, 2 are always injured and 1 has been sold. Barkley doesn't do it, watching everyone push him around on sunday, like against Stoke was embarrassing. Why doesn't he just show a bit of bite, same with McCarthy and Barry, none of it, too shy. Roberto is embarrassing himself with that statement, said 2 weeks ago "we never lost them" (referring to the fans) then said the players can't play properly due to "fear". Well if you're scared of the fans then go, look at the abuse Ronaldo got here and Suarez, they both thrived on that. Suarez especially loved winding everyone up and it made him a better player. You shouldn't be a footballer if it intimidates you.

Whoever runs the club needs to be sacked now, all the work Everton in the community then get George Osburne in. How many of those people we are helping are in those terrible situations because of that clown and his daddy Cameron? . I'm not ultra Labour either, I'm of course left wing as the far right is just ridiculous and it's scary so many people vote Tory and in America, Trump, but I was no fan of Miliband as he reminded me of Will in the Inbetweeners when he gets put in the garage and doesn't fit in, Miliband didn't seem a politician. Politics aside because Everton are shooting themselves in the foot, it goes completely against what Everton work so hard for, publicity for the Tory's and the club doesn't know it's fanbase very well. Sad really, people's club my arse.

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{Ed003's Note - Agreed,couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Osbourne was there today - talking of eyes are his real or under another influence ? one for the politics page really. }

26 Jan 2016 10:30:35
Swan just one question if we sack the people who run the club who will then run the club? Oh and by the way Osborne and Cameron aren't far right they are centre right. Do agree though the fan base has probably predominately left wing ideology, but then politics should be brought into sport anyway as its decisive so it wasn't a very smart thing to do.

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26 Jan 2016 12:34:31
Well said sa90.

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