Everton Banter Archive April 26 2018

26 Apr 2018 12:34:42
We are safe. The club needs to come out and say that they are thankful for the hard work and efforrs of SA, have enjoyed working with him but seek to part ways and appoint another manager for the season. Tell SA personally first and wish him the best of luck. Then hopefully we can all support him for the last games and give him a pleasent send off. There can't be any other way for me.

26 Apr 2018 15:19:56
That would definitely be the classy thing to do. He's done his job I'm thankful for that, but make the announcement now so we can support the team and manager for the last 3 games.

26 Apr 2018 20:33:54
The players would stop playing and the away fans would have a field day. Far from a good send off he would be embarrassed.

27 Apr 2018 11:55:16
Smit666 I think SA can handle stick, c'mon mate. If us fans know that someone else is in charge next season it will reduce the resentment of SA. The players should be told that they are playing to show the next manager who deserves a chance. Plus its a test of characters, players who drop off their perfermences too easily should be given the boot.

26 Apr 2018 10:32:08
What'd be the point of giving Allardyce another year?
I've seen no evidence (be it the team's performances under him, the proposed transfer ins and outs, his comments to the media and attitude to the fans) that make me think that it wouldn't be anything other than another wasted season - and that the next manager will have an even bigger mess to clear up.
I appreciate that this forum doesn't include every Evertonian, but is there anyone amongst the genuine fanbase that actually wants Allardyce to stay?
FM/ BK must give clarity and leadership regarding the future of the club - please!

26 Apr 2018 11:13:07
Agree totally with you BobbyC. It would be a complete and utter waste of a season.

It's long past due that FM and BK sort out this mess.

26 Apr 2018 11:44:06
The point of giving SA another year is that it sees out his contract which means no compensation pay off. Why would the club waste money when they don't have too. The only way I suspect the club will be forced to get rid of SA early is if season tickets sales take a big hit. You can whinge all you want but I suspect the club don't really take much notice of forums like these. However, a big chunk of lost revenue would be a completely different matter.

26 Apr 2018 12:16:01
I'm not the typical big Sam hater that is on here but I still don't want him to stay next season. Main reason being I think the long term prospects of the club will suffer.

I'd be concerned about his treatment of the younger players. Since he has come in, Vlasic, Lookman, DCL, Klaassen, Sandro and Holgate have all been brushed aside.

These are all players in their early twenties. Coincidence? I think not. I can see why the board might want to keep him as he is good at steadying the ship and would have a good platform built for a new manager in terms of a team that is ready now.

Still I don't agree with it. I'm as angry as anyone with the style of football. It is atrocious. The fact remains it looks like we are going to finish 8th. That's what the board go on facts. In the survey here a few months back a very small minority voted us finishing 8th. Vast majority voted 12th to 15th.

Even with the atrocious football to achieve this does people not see this as a positive? After all at the time of the survey people thought we were guaranteed to finish bottom half. We all know the football is terrible to look at.

I have a feeling if big Sam even is here next season he won't last until the turn of the year. The backlash of the fans will be far too much for the club and they will be forced to act. Just my humble opinion on big Sam there.

26 Apr 2018 12:51:02
I can see SA being here next season as well, not sure if a back lash from the fans is the best way to go about getting rid of him though. We have already got rid of our last two managers by being vocal on match days. Not great reputation to build. The question is if we get a reputation of being a club that gets rid of managers regardless of contract length we may not get any decent managers wanting to join us. We made a rod for our own back with two poor decisions. The first getting rid of Koeman in panic. The second hiring SA and not giving Unsworth a decent amount of time to turn the results around. Having said that we don't actually know if the club are actually happy with SA or not so all the speculation may be pointless.

26 Apr 2018 13:18:33
Sa90, you say no compensation if he stays, what about a couple of managers who are available this Summer who will be available without paying another club compensation.

What we save by keeping Sam, we could end up paying another club Compensation next season if those managers get attached to another club.

We should be a lot wiser after tonight’s, meeting in London and should make for an interesting gossip on here Friday.

26 Apr 2018 14:19:54
League position should have nothing to do with it. The points total is more important and we are currently on 45 versus 61 last season.
If we win all our remaining games we will have 54, not a bad return for Sam but we have to win our last 3 yet.
Then you have to take into consideration, have the performances improved over big Sams tenure, we can't expect him to work miracles but the performances for me, are the same, if not worse.
Benitez last week played Slimani because he knew they were safe and said he wanted to know if he was worth keeping.
why Sam hasn't started doing that with Vlasic, Klassen and Baningime is beyond me. Is he going to watch them in pre season and get a better idea of what they can do than he will in these last few games? doubtful.
it smacks of a man who knows his neck is on the line and jsut wants to grab enough points to stay in a job.

26 Apr 2018 15:01:36
bignev you are presuming the managers management want are going to have jobs. If they have got any sense they could put the respective applicant on a retainer if necessary. Hopefully we will get an insight to what may happen tomorrow after the meeting. I also agree with you Smitt666 I think SA is well aware of what he needs to do to put the onus on the board regarding his future, in that respect he is a clever business man.

26 Apr 2018 15:28:38
get a new manager in and keep sam, someone will be daft enough, ie wba to buy him out of the contract.

26 Apr 2018 09:06:58
If SA is kept on and I pray to the almighty he is not we may forget about football until August 2019.

26 Apr 2018 10:28:04
I understand what you say billy but as supporters (as important as the Club sees us - and all Clubs do) the majority of us have no real idea of what goes on behind the scenes and how Allardyce comes across to the majority share holder, executives and all the Staff. The players do seem to indicate they are happy.

26 Apr 2018 10:38:02
Haven’t you realised - SA is the almighty. FM/ BK should beseech him, “Let my people go! ”.

26 Apr 2018 18:11:04
I hope Morishi has noticed what the others over the park are doing. I hope he thinks "I want that for Everton too". Then I hope he thinks "Can my present manager deliver it? " Then I hope he think "nah get rid"

26 Apr 2018 07:19:21
The scary thing I keep seeing is players keep saying since Sam arrived they've been more settled. Is a settled ship enough to see Sam stay at the club. Personally I really can't see him staying. Yes players seem settled but that happens when the results come in. Admittedly they aren't great results. I think Mr Moshiri knows he has to go and I think he will. It's going to be another unhappy season next year I feel with Sam and boring boring football. Or whoever comes in has to settle first then find his bearings working out tactics what best suits Everton. All this with a new shortened transfer market and a World Cup. Whoever we get in if we reappoint has to hit the ground running. I hope the team can adapt. And we as supporters can't be impatient if the results aren't as great as we had hoped for. Next season will be super tough for us.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mowfee..

26 Apr 2018 07:35:12
I agree too but we have to have hope and that means Sam has to go so that it raises the spirit within the fan base because I don't think it's ever been this low - probably only talking from personal experience but that's 50 years.