Everton Banter Archive January 25 2015

 

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25 Jan 2015 21:40:59
I am off to France for 5 days so won't be posting during that time. Good luck whilst I am away.

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{Ed007's Note - Have a nice trip mate.}

I don't know what I'm going to do without your daily mention of Leon Osman ;)

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Your not going to lille are you degs? You might not get back without the odd rubber bullet getting fired at you.

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Stay away from the fairy liquid mate:-)

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25 Jan 2015 20:34:43
Apologies in advance for the length of this post. Been taking stock of the season so far and the crucial months ahead. Did it as an A-Z

Apprehensive if not seriously worried.
Besic. Best player recently and scapegoat at the same time.
Chairman. Treating the fans with contempt and mustn't forget corners. Waste of time getting them as we've forgotten how to take them.
Dave Hickson ' I'd break every bone in my body for any club I play for, but I'd die for Everton.' How many of the present squad would remotely feel this way.
Expected more this season, a lot more.
Formation. Square pegs in round holes. Been said many times but very accurate.
Garbutt. Why is his contract not sorted?
How are we going to get out of it? No managerial changes, no significant signings, no sign of managerial acumen. Could be down to luck then?
Injuries. All clubs get them, not as many hamstrings though.
Jagielka. Not my idea of a captain. Who would you give it to? Give me the Dave McKay type anytime if they're not extinct. Apologies to the younger readers
Kev. Why no apology? Poor PR.
Late goals costly.
Martinez. Gave him the benefit of the doubt, but is a phoney and a stubborn one at that. Poster who referenced the 'Kings New Clothes 'was bang on.
Naismith. Top bloke. Top attitude. 100% committed. Never wide right though.
Oviedo baby. Another who is committed, not top drawer but should be playing wide left.
Pre season. Badly mismanaged
Quatar. Hope the players come back with more than a suntan?
Robles. Three clean sheets 2013 FA Cup quarter, semi and final, so must have had something. Starting to look a keeper, confidence will probably go again though if we sign this any Nyland lad.
Samuel. Would like to know the real story?
Transfers would take none this window at Martinez's hand, even though we need them, with a new manager to make them in the Summer. Whether we can attract or keep better players is debatable.
Underachieved big time
Victor Anicebe. Almost miss him sometimes.
Walton Hall Park. More silence.
XXIII points after XXII games not acceptable.
Youngsters too few opportunities, especially Browning in central defence and Garbutt.
Zilch. What we have won this century. Looks like same again this season. Only another seventeen points or so to maintain our proud top flight tradition. The present squad is more than good enough to stay up. It's criminal that we have to use phrases such a stay up, when most of our posters could pick an eleven and a formation each week and be able to make the odd substitution or tactical change when required.


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Good post tester good round up to a shame of a season and considering the points hall of last season I for one am not a happy person either. Pretty much the same squid but night and day in comparison.

I got shot down for praising mouse stability over the last 10 years but never in any season would you question the squad harmony which was always a 100%, fair enough he wasn't brave enough when it mattered but at least the team were one and his first 6 months of his last year we dominated games even better than last year. Soured himself on leaving but he done good whether you like it or not.

I loved last year but RM needs a reality check maybe he realised at the start of the season the gun ho style wasn't working so reverted to destroying the soul of fans to the point of silence but it's become a sham, how a manager can act like a set play dosnt exist is beyond me and eve. On corners we take them like we can't be arsed, sum one needs a rocket up then sharpish

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25 Jan 2015 18:03:02
It's now been reported that "Fabian Delph has ended speculation about his future and signed a new four-and-a-half year contract with Aston Villa."
I guess that even if we were interested at one point we didn't go that far in pursuing him. This must mean that it's almost certainly Cleverly in the summer on a free. Cue the "Dying Swan" music for one poster ;-) I just wish that RM would be more of a "Nutcracker" when geeing up the players.

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25 Jan 2015 19:57:39
1 Good thing came out from today. McManaman, is to sign for West Brom, meaning he won't be signing for us. But having said that, he can't be any worse than mcgeady I suppose. so maybe not a good thing, as in our current situation, he's probably the standard we can attact at the moment.

Does anyone else feel that we don't use the South American market as much. The last player I remember from that side of the world was Le Straq, and although he wasnt that good, he seemed to work hard. If you look at the talent that has come to the prem from those horizons, its a list of some big names.

Tevez
Aguero
Di Maria
Mascherano (spelling)
Paulinho
Willian
Oscar
Felipe Luiz

Theres so much potential there, and atm we've got Oviedo (and Alcaraz, but don't make me laugh), and that's it. Would like to see us increase our range for players in that region, and if that does happen, maybe we can get more fan based exposure also.

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All been or are top players, except pauliniho, we would never have attracted any of them, moyes watched di maria for a while & quickly realised he was out of our league. Like he did with Hleb

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The problem is getting work permits which means you have to buy established players which means there expensive the cheapest player on your list is who pauliniho at 18m

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All these players were highly thought off, not so much hidden gems but cash cows to be marketed by South American teams they represented

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25 Jan 2015 17:35:46
I think we've all now pretty much given up on any significant incomings this transfer window. RM said as much weeks ago and this is the one area where he's always been provd true to his word.
Even any replacement for Eto'o looks likely to be a "who's he?" at best or a "wtf!" at worst.
BK will no doubt persevere with RM, so there won't be new ideas from new management leading to a radical refreshing of the squad going forward - it'll be same old same old from the RM coaching & recruitment staff.
It's surely a question of how much RM changes the squad this summer. If he says there won't be many big changes, then I fear for next season when our aging, injury-prone, short-of- self-belief players once again find themselves struggling - whichever division they're in under RM.
:-(

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Don't rule out loan move for ex Wigan player frozen out @ villa nzogbia lol & in the summer another world beater cleverley currently on loan @ villa from Man U who Martinez had on loan when he managed Wigan.
Can u see the pattern he's got Everton playing like Wigan & wants all his ex players to follow him to Goodison so that he can take us into the championship next season & play his ex employers minimum of twice a season.
Wish the fella had stayed @ Wigan if he thought they were that good.

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Yep. This is a rapidly ageing squad that we seem to be adding to with ageing players. I pointed this out last season and Swan in particular had a right go at me. There are at least 4 or 5 who in my opinion have probably reached their sell by date and another similar figure rapidly approaching it. That is one reason I did not understand the selling of Anicebe and purchase of Kone for a similar figure. Kone has probably 1 more season. Anichebe has 6. Added to which, signing Alcaraz when Distin is at the end and Jags probably 1 more season. I likened it to Sunderland and Villa who both had squad re-vamps. Swan called me all sorts for pointing this out. I also suggested Osman, Gibson and Pienaar needed replacements. so we sign Barry and McCarthy. Ok McCarthy is a good long term signing. but Barry was surely at best a 2 season signing. Add all these up and we need to replace 8 players. Not forgetting Howard, Hibbert and probably someone else I have forgotton. We should onned young players.dare I say it.like Moyes did when he took over.

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What do you mean take us into the championship next season. Currently we are in the relegation fight well and truly. If those below us carry on with their current form and we carry on with ours, what are the odds!!!

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27 Jan 2015 11:23:41
i agree this january we need players wether it be on loan or permanent.

this summer will be huge for everton I feel like u say degsy

howard,hibbert,osman,pienaar, alcaraz ,gaz baz, jagielka distin eto.0. kone. all coming to the end of there careers and will need replaced. perhaps he's going to rely on the youngters

howard - stanek
hibbert - kenny
osman - lundstrum
pienaar - kennedy
gaz baz - ledson
jagielka - browning
distin - stones
alcaraz - galloway
eto.0 - henen
kone - mceleny

would we be happy with the olds out and the youngsters in? add in joel garbutt besic barkley mccarthy coleman lukakau naismith baines mirallas mcgeady. is this a good enough squad to compete ed? what's your views

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{Ed025's Note - not enough experience for me dazza, history says that not all of them youngsters will make the grade, we need some new blood with quality mate..

25 Jan 2015 17:12:12
The official club website is announcing a forthcoming hospitality event (for real - I'm not kidding):
"Our third and final Ladies Lunch of the season with our Blues Manager Roberto Martinez takes place on Tuesday 31 March at the Hilton Liverpool.
Enjoy a welcome drink on arrival, followed by a two-course lunch before hearing an interview on-stage with Roberto and then meet him for an autograph / photograph opportunity not to be missed!"
Well that means two things: (1) BK won't be relieving RM of his duties, as the club clearly couldn't afford to refund any tickets - no matter how few are sold; and (2) no-one can dispute that on this occasion our manager will well and truly be out to lunch!

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25 Jan 2015 15:59:15
.very impressed again with Winston Reid this afternoon.the guys so strong & can definitely defend. reckon we should go & get him to partner Stones for next season. my wife's just told me he got man-of-the -match too.

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25 Jan 2015 17:38:16
Unless we see a dramatic upswing in our fortunes I doubt we could attract him to be honest.

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Why would he want to leave a club in the next round of the FA Cup, 6th in the premiership to go to a club in obvious disarray 4 points above the drop zone? OK if he was an Evertonian I would understand it.

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25 Jan 2015 22:06:07
Degsy he will go to who offers him the most money, footballers don't give a toss about who you are, it's how much do I get.

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25 Jan 2015 15:33:23
Why are we prepared to spend 4.5 mill on a goalkeeper?? Robles has done ok up to now! It does make you wonder what the hell is going on? All of a sudden there is a deal on the table for M'bia who can't get a regular start with Seville, another defensive midfielder . Do we need him? No we don't, unless Mccarthy is on his way? We still have Besic and Barry as defensive midfielders. What we need is creative players who make things happen. So sad to see Eto leave, it does make you wonder why? He looked so happy playing for us when we played Burnley. He was a class player to say the least.I just hope the players come back from their undeserved break with a huge passion to win every game and give us the hard paying fans 110% in every game.

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I agree we need a creative midfield asap, but Barry for me is struggling this yr an I think he will get worse, 5.5mil is slot for a young keeper by he is really really good an could be top 5 best keeper in couple of yrs

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25 Jan 2015 16:59:12
Because ok should not be good enough. Agree we need midfielders/wingers with vision and pace, and a strong C/B who can defend.

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I put a joke on a couple of days ago about RM wanting to fill the midfield with defensive non-scoring midfielders who are good tacklers and good at retaining possession. Look around and there are quite a few in the Premier League ex Wigan. The joke was that if we played 4 defensive mids across the park and with another behind them to protect the defensive back four, we could increase our possession from our current 60% to probably 75% and hardly ever give the ball away. We could isolate Lukaku completely so that he never actually got the ball. We would get 38 nil nil draws and virtually guarantee safety every season. (that bit was Ed's joke). Perhaps reality is not so far away?

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Mbia would be a free by the looks of it. We have Barry who is ageing and off form, besic and injured j-mac (I'm not even counting Gibson anymore) some more strength in depth would help. I think if we could rest Barry properly although rm seems dead set against that he would be sharper. I know he is slow but he looks incredibly lethargic this year. If I remember correctly then mbia can cover at centre back too.

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25 Jan 2015 14:27:04
When David Moyes decided that He had "taken Everton as far as He could" & left for Man Utd, I genuinely believed Martinez was the up & coming young Manager who would hopefully take us to "the next level"! But now I am deeply concerned at his Refusal to change tactics when required and his constant backing for Ross Barkley who is definitely not progressing as he should have by now. We badly need quality players in numerous positions and we need them immediately. in this Transfer Window. Also I am very disturbed to read in Sunday papers that Martinez is trying to secure a loan deal at £70,000 per week, for N'zogbia from Aston Villa. yet another ex Wigan player!!! Martinez reckons he can get the best out of him. This is very alarming to say the least, we should be looking at better quality than this in ALL positions. Nyland, a young Norwegian GK is mentioned . never heard of him, but he could be a gem.my opinion would be to sign Schmeichel from Leicester, brilliant young International Gk with proven Prem League experience. We also urgently need a dominant Centre Back as Alcaraz & Distin aren't up to the job any longer at this level. Barry had a good season last year, but is found wanting far too often now, and we need a powerful, running strong midfielder. Ross Barkley is not the answer and is NOT the next Wayne Rooney? He doesn't do much off the ball and loses the ball far too often in dangerous positions and can't tackle to save his life. Potential, he may be, but in my opinion should not be in the team at the moment until he rediscovers some form. I'd like to see us go after Sissoko from Newcastle. plenty of power & drive. With Eto apparently having left now then we also need a proven goalscorer/striker.take a chance on young Ings at Burnley maybe. what do you think Blues fans. not sure about the Lennon from Spurs talk.I would prefer Andros Townsend.but we do need an immediate injection of fresh players. and now. otherwise depending on the results of our next 3/4 games, I fear we could be involved in a battle we might not get out of once confidence has gone!

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I would agree with everything you say Golden vision except.we could be involved in a battle etc once confidence has gone. We are in a battle and confidence has gone! Other than that mate.great post!

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I couldn't agree more with your post. No more Wigan players.Yes we need a few players but it could be at the expense of Mccarthy or Mirrallas?? Never mind the players I think we need a new manager or we will get relegated.

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25 Jan 2015 12:37:10
El Shaarawy yesterday, to N'Zogbia on loan today.

Oh how I love the transfer window as an Everton Fan. LOL

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Yeah QB. It says something when posters are suggesting we bring back Cahill. Although a bit of his fighting spirit would not go amiss.

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25 Jan 2015 14:29:43
Ive posted before about Cahill Degsy, and wouldn't mind him in a coaching role. Maybe among the youth team setup. but otherwise no, even though i'm a huge Cahill fan.

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25 Jan 2015 11:20:00
I hope we sign this nyland 5.5 for a young keeper abit much but he amazing an will be 1 of the best in the world he best de gea to the best u21 keeper in the euro

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25 Jan 2015 09:56:50
Come on guys I'm as frustrated as anyone with how things are going at the moment but whenever we get linked with a player its doom and gloom, if we haven't heard of them we shouldn't bother and if they have abit of class and pedigree there is no way in the world we will get them. Let's cross our fingers and hope we can get a couple of gems before the end of the month.

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