Everton Banter Archive October 24 2017

24 Oct 2017 22:53:27
For me it has to be Unsworth until the end of the season to see how he goes. other options for me would be
Howe and Coleman

If you want Dyche you may as well get Moyes back - very similiar managers who get solid results with very little spend. nothing exciting

I hope EFC have learnt their lesson and get a manager who is prepared to MANAGE and not just get the chq book out - its about time we gave theses younger players a chance hence why I hope Unsworth gets the job.

24 Oct 2017 23:57:30
Unfortunately Pavillion if we want to be ambitious the cheque book will have to come out or we can all be happy finishing 7,8,9 or 10th for the rest of eternity. In which case Moshiri coming has been a complete waste of time as Bill had us top 5-7 for the last decade. The kids coming through will be a good solid base but we have to move with the times and spend a bit too.

25 Oct 2017 07:16:02
It’s more a point of how to use the cheque book effectively. You can’t win without it these days a Smit rightly says. If you spend it like Koeman did then the money used is ineffective.

We need a manager the can go toe to toe tactically, can organise our disjointed squad and spend wisely in the forthcoming windows.

Sort that out and we will be up the table in no time.

25 Oct 2017 08:37:42
You say that we need the cheque book to come out? Well in my opinion that is the root of our problems this season. I'm not saying that Klaassen and Sigurdsson are not going to come good, but imagine if we had just bought Pickford, Keane, Rooney and Vlasic. Can you honestly say we would be in a worse position? In fact, when you look at the fact that Koeman used 7 different formations and 21 different players, I would argue that we would have been better with a more compact squad.

25 Oct 2017 09:54:25
I am saying keep the CHQ book in the back pocket so to speak - I want the younger players to get a chance and you are right that really we needed a GK, 2 defenders, no 10 and a striker ( to replace lukaku) for this season - instead Koeman bought a mish mash of players.

I want a manager who can actually manage - you look at the like of pep and mourinho for example they go to clubs who have superstars already or they spend a shed load of money - I would love to see these managers in particular at the like of Stoke, Burnley etc and see how they go with little money available.

25 Oct 2017 10:15:11
It’s clearly somewhere in between the two opinions. You’ll never be a regular top six team unless you spend money and you’ll never be a top six regular if you spend it poorly.

24 Oct 2017 19:49:51
Hi Ed rags now reporting we will be shipping out players in Jan just brought in by R K this summer, surely who ever comes in will want to go through the team with a fine tooth comb and give them all a bit of time to prove themselves before decisions like that.

{Ed025's Note - i would think so as well GB..

24 Oct 2017 10:19:33
Hi Ed 025 in the rags today they are saying that the Club are in severance talks with 3 of R Ks backroom staff to pay them off as well, his brother Erwin, the fitness coach, and the goal keeping coach, if this is correct the board are moving mighty quick to clear out the old regime and install a new one which leads me to think that they have already spoken to who they would like to takeover at Everton, what's your view on this cheers mate.

{Ed025's Note - that sounds feasible GB but in all honesty i dont know, i hope rhino makes a decent fist of it as caretaker but if not then i would like to see marco silva or maybe tuchel take the reins, but i have heard he does not speak english so that could be a problem mate, who would you like?..

24 Oct 2017 17:13:52
I like Silva and he looks like he has both determination and an arm around the shoulder when needed as well. Wagner for me though.

However, while Unsy has the job I hope he batters every team he faces earns the job himself. I'm not sure he has what it takes but look at the last couple of managers we've had. Both had experience and neither managed to do better than be a one season wonder. Maybe Unsy can break the mould.

24 Oct 2017 17:23:07
Hi Ed I would have:
No1 target Marco Silva
2 Ancelotti dream but he likes the prem
3 Paulo fonseca
4 Dyche
5 Unsworth.

24 Oct 2017 18:10:48
Hi Ed not sure really, some good names being banded about but on here we will probably all say different ones but would make Rhino his No 2.

24 Oct 2017 18:25:15
I realise it's none of my business but I'd like to see Dyche get it. What he has done at Burnley is incredible and being English he will understand the history and tradition of Everton and the role the Manager needs to play. Silva has been here two minutes and Tuchel doesn't speak English. I'm also fed up with the endless stream of foreign managers and yes, I realise the irony of a United fan saying that.

{Ed025's Note - cheers AJH..

24 Oct 2017 19:26:08
1. Unsy
2. Dyche (proven with no money, think what he can do with money)
3. Wagner (need to take a wagon full of dosh to Huddersfield)
4. Mancini.

24 Oct 2017 14:32:03
Everyone got to start somewhere and there's no way of knowing if unsy will succeed or fail.
As fans we need to get behind him amd the team for however long he is in charge. I can see him playing players in correct positions and he will have a better knowledge of the kids we have and can mix them with first team.

24 Oct 2017 15:59:48
To realistically judge whether he is ready he needs at least 10 games. How many times have we seen a team go through the honeymoon period of good results and when everything settles down a true level is seen. I don't personally think he is ready but i may be wrong and he is definitely a better choice than some of the names being mentioned.
Maybe a stint in charge might help prepare him for the full time job in a couple to three years, that way he could manage us in our new stadium.

24 Oct 2017 16:50:54
If he takes over and fails the club will lose him forever he won't be able to step back down again and he is a very important club man.

{Ed025's Note - i think he could go back to the U23,s without any problem irish..

24 Oct 2017 17:14:19
If the fans turn on him depends a lot of clubs promoted in house then ended up with manager getting sacked and never working for club again he is a great club man and it's a huge job.

24 Oct 2017 19:32:45
Irishblu, the fans won't get on his back that is a certainty. He will have a run of games to see how it goes and if it doesn't work out (he has to cope with some dross and has beens brought in by RK don't forget) , he will as Ed says go back to the U23's where so far we have had none better.

24 Oct 2017 10:59:57
Unsy confirmed as caretaker. Good move by the club.

Phil Neville wants the job. Sorry Phil but no chance. Too inexperienced. Would rather keep unsy if we going along that route.

24 Oct 2017 11:39:31
Need top manager to get fans excited again not giggs neville or unsworh money is there to get top manager like anchelotti a top 7 club should be thinking about being top 4 only way is a top 4 manager.

24 Oct 2017 11:58:00
who's to say unsworth isn't a top manager? we tried the name, now let's get the right man for the job ay?

24 Oct 2017 12:45:53
I'm all for giving him a crack and Everton showing due diligence on their next permanent choice. Although two managers in 16mths, we are not a sacking club usually. but in these two instances fully deserved.

24 Oct 2017 13:34:03
Need manager with contacts in the transfer market to move to next level and attract bigger names unsworth isn't that.

24 Oct 2017 13:48:50
We aren't going to attract any really big names until we get into the champs league a few times. The way forward is recruiting and training the best youngsters. Walsh is in place for that so all Unsworth needs to do is coach and pick the team. I am nailing my flag to the mast. #TeamRhino.

24 Oct 2017 14:00:43
Madness we have the tools now to challenge bring in the name and watch the lift the club gets.

24 Oct 2017 14:04:17
The only way we attracted Koeman was by offering him a massive salary and by letting him spend a huge amount (by our standards) to bring in his chosen players. It didn’t work.
Let’s see how the team react to Unsy during the next few matches. In the meantime, the club will no doubt be sounding out other candidates so the board have a choice for next manager.

24 Oct 2017 14:41:05
irishblu, who do u want mate? who has the best fone book who can get us these signings? we don't need a phone book mate we need someone who the players we have will fight for someone who has sound tactics and a plan b c or d depending on how the games going. if u have watched any of the 23s u will know unsworth is a top manager and before I get the but it's only 23s tell me this would Jose mourinho be able to win the league if every time a player of his hit form they got loaned out? he did amazing last year and this year and has earned his shot.

24 Oct 2017 15:09:07
Johnny 1989 you would prefer unsworth than anchelotti that's all I m saying is try for the best available.

25 Oct 2017 08:08:35
yes right now I would rather unsworth than ancelotti. do u think Carlo gives two flying one's about everton? he would use us to get his next job mate where as rhino will bleed blue and give everything he can to get us competing at the highest level. half the people on here want our youth to play because they won the league last year and did well. Well why not give the man responsible for there success the chance to show us what he can do. if he fails fair enough but if he becomes the next ancelotti then brilliant either way I don't see the point of having a top manager already at the club but over looking him because his name is english.

24 Oct 2017 00:26:02
Ed25 I was suggesting Arteta as assistant not the boss. He knows the club. But Blanc for me as boss. The other choice for me is Tuchel. I would like Ancelotti but feel we have no chance. Here's another name I wouldn't mind Pellegrino.

COYB.

{Ed025's Note - as an assistant then maybe emerald but im sure the new boss will want to pick his own, i like tuchel but his lack of english could prove a sticking point mate, pellegrino being an ex red may rule him out..

23 Oct 2017 20:44:40
Hi ed001 can I ask who you think Everton should go for?
And who we will get would like your opinion as a neutral and always have information to back it up thanks.

{Ed001's Note - I know Unsworth wants the job and, for me, if you are going to go with young and inexperienced it has to be promotion from within, so I would rule out Tuchel and similar ones. Though I would rule out Tuchel anyway, tinkers far too much tactically, similar to Koeman and it ended up being his downfall as well. So for me, if you are going to take a chance on a youngish manager it has to be Rhino.

Looking at what you have to work with, as in a manager is going to have to accept that a portion of the budget has to be used on the infrastructure of the club, there is only one other choice within English football and that is Dyche. He has not yet had the chance to work with the bigger budget and better players, but he is very good at getting the most out of what he has. He also made sure that Burnley spent the Premier League money on training ground etc, rather than using it for players. He took a long term view of what was best for the club, rather than what was best for his career. There are very few managers who will do that around.

Other than that, the likes of Marcelino or Sarri would be brilliant, but I am not sure you could drag them away from Valencia or Napoli right now. The left field suggestion would be one you know well, as his Atalanta side faced you in the Europa League - Gian Piero Gasperini. He has them playing some great stuff and it was no fluke they were able to beat you. He would be the one I would choose to target first, if it was me choosing.}

24 Oct 2017 10:49:42
How about the Fonseca link. Did well at Braga and won treble in first season at Shaktar.