Everton Banter Archive August 24 2015

 

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24 Aug 2015 23:14:43
The thing with this window which worries me most, we have a good squad of players the Mori and Rodriguez adds bodies whereas someone like Yarmolenko takes us to another level I believe we need his ability to unlock defences, and I do believe we will bring in a marquee no 10 it could be the difference in finishing 4/5/6 or top 10

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25 Aug 2015 08:31:51
totally agree let's hope these two are a couple of gems!

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24 Aug 2015 23:13:06
Well a week left and the window will be closed and we can all de stress, assuming of course the deals work in our favour. In the meanwhile I am sure we are in for all the player spotted at airport and San Carlos rumours in the days ahead.
If we have kept Stones and signed Yarmalenko I would take everything else falling by the wayside.
We will have signed Cleverley. I didn't want him. Thousands of others didn't want him, but fair play the lad is doing well. I was happy with the Delefeou signing. if he can apply himself and use his brain a bit more he will be an asset. He has the ability to be a game changer. Holgate is one for the future.
I can fully understand Martinez with the budget restrictions the board have probably placed him under going all in to get Yarmalenko. He will have identified him. He clearly rates him even though he didn't pay him any special attention which is why Kiev beat us. The comments of many posters indicate that we rate him highly too.
You cannot blame Martinez for the difficult negotiations. Dealing with these Ukrainians is like playing poker with Frank Abagnale, Victor Lustig and Bernie Madoff. The problem is it could go to the wire. Whether we miss out on Yarmalenko or not brings us to Lennon which brings us to another con artist Levy. You have to admire this man for for selling Spurs cast offs for £30m plus this window. Lennon has one year left on his contact. Levy will not want to let him go free and pay his wages for another year. This time we hold the cards and should sign him on the cheap.

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24 Aug 2015 22:39:16
Midfield general please to partner mccalfy in the middle an play besic I like this guy puts in 100% reminds me of trev stevens

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{Ed025's Note - nothing like tricky trevor steven tbone, besic is 100%effort whereas trevor was a magician mate..

24 Aug 2015 23:10:07
I agree to some extent while I understand what Barry provides in games he can't do it week in week out, games like yesterday was a game he should be on bench I would of played Besic and told him to go and do a job on silva basically hunt him down everywhere he goes you go by doing that you stop the flow everything good about Man City he is involved.
Not saying we would of one but you disrupt there play

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24 Aug 2015 23:47:13
Besic must start against Barnsley, the lad has massive potential, got a bit of everything. He plays for the shirt too and works hard, the complete package imo.

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24 Aug 2015 22:20:35
Does it not concern anyone else that we always have issues with foreign players and being able to get work permits for them. This happens to often for my liking. Is it very poor background work by scouting staff? Is it a ruse to look like we are trying to sign players knowing that we can't due to permit problems? I am a Kenwright fan but every year it's last minute rush for signings and permit issues.
This needs sorting

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24 Aug 2015 22:05:36
Firstly to all us fans and pundits who say these deals take time, they don't. Look at deadline day and what can be achieved in hours not days huge transfers, last minute sales leading to even later replacements all done in an hour.
Secondly we have sanctioned two signings I believe it's the two South American lads.
Thirdly, the yarmelenko thing is most likely set up for deadline day meaning Martinez may want someone else. The problem these days is social media and 24hour news. The Lukaku loan deal would have been set up days before it was done as a contingency to losing Fellaini or Baines. I'm pretty sure the yarmelenko deal is sorted but guessing he is keeping his options open until last minute as he might be second or third choice for the number 10.
If you lot can't see that transfers are not done in minutes then why do you think these things go to the wire? We probably have several accepted bids out there we just don't know who.
I stated after Martinez came out so bullish before Southampton saying stones is staying and we will get 3 that he either had to be mad or knew what he had lined up was done. Let's just see what happens and if on the 2nd of September we have no new signings and have sold stones we can all go radio rental at the club and watch us struggle

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24 Aug 2015 20:52:14
Was chatting to a good friend of mine today and he had a visit from 2 Everton representatives as his Grandson has had 2 trials at Everton. he's only 14 and a goalie so don't be getting excited but they did say John Stones has no interest in leaving Everton for any club. They told him Stones loves it at Everton. My friend is a Utd supporter but also said the 2 Everton reps sold the club brilliantly and his Grandson also has a trial at Utd but Evertons academy sounded much better.

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24 Aug 2015 22:17:56
Do we really think that it is his choice? I hope he stays but everyone has a price Joe. I wouldn't sell him to Chelsea out of principle but unfortunately we don't have a Russian Gazzilionaire.
40 000000 is a lot of money, how many more goals would that buy us than we would concede without him?

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24 Aug 2015 20:43:45
Ed's any news on Yarmolenko? The rumours linking us with others instead true?

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{Ed025's Note - yarmolenko looks dead, not sure on anyone else mate..

24 Aug 2015 20:26:54
Right, for my own sanity I'm logging out of this site until after the window has closed. Way, way too much negativity at the moment it's a joke. See you all next week.

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{Ed025's Note - enjoy your sabbatical mate..

24 Aug 2015 22:11:30
Good luck with that, I've tried. But I have managed to cut down to about 20 visits a day. Just wait for the pendulum to swing back to happy and excited when the rags come up with another fantasy footballer for us to dream about.

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{Ed025's Note - your on more than me steve.. :)

24 Aug 2015 20:25:41
Anyone think charlie austin is wearth a shout goal scorer or its just me that we need another target up front buy him rm before we lose another decent striker 13 mil would donit now rm plz

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24 Aug 2015 20:39:43
He stated he doesn't want to leave London and palace are the front runners at the min.

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24 Aug 2015 20:58:16
Further more he has failed meds in the past because of a dodgy knee and to fork out 13mill then for him to take one knock then out for the season is to much of a risk for most managers or he would of been snapped up by now. That's my view anyway tbone.

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24 Aug 2015 19:46:37
Just wondering what the reactions will be when we get beat by Barnsley because I can see it coming a mile off

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{Ed025's Note - "oh ye of little faith..

24 Aug 2015 19:27:38
on ssn transfer centre they said they believe river plate defender has not been given a work permit so ed where do u think we will go from here in search of a centre back and do u know anything about this rodriguez guy the only thing I know is that he would not need a work permit because he has a duel french and Italian passport is he any good

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{Ed025's Note - i would be guessing duke, i have never seen him or even heard about him till last week mate..

24 Aug 2015 17:34:23
Eds on a scale of 1-10, what would you give the chances of us striking a deal for Yarmolenko? Are we interested in Bernard or is that paper talk?

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{Ed025's Note - a big fat 1/10 for yarmolenko to come KR, and to be honest i feel that bernard might be less mate..

24 Aug 2015 19:33:46
So your saying we have a chance ed?

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{Ed025's Note - so you watch dumb and dumber as well stef.. :)

24 Aug 2015 19:40:08
I sure do ed lol😂

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{Ed025's Note - great film mate, certainly in my top 10 comedies, but behind my cousin vinnie, the hard way, and the heat..

24 Aug 2015 18:11:16
We ain't getting yarmmelenko we won't get Bernard we're end up with Lennon hopefully the mori deal with fall through he's shocking he's too slow and has no strength I've seed him play over a dozen times he's another alcarez in disguise

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24 Aug 2015 19:43:50
Yet most people who have watched him are saying his best assets are his strength and speed.

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24 Aug 2015 18:04:23
Never wanted to sell Stones, but, if he has asked to go, then regurdless of how good he is, don't think it's good policy keeping a player that wants away. Tell chelsea 40m, take it or leave it, and spend 12m on the boy from celtic. PS. and use some of the surplus to buy a decent keeper, Tim's mistakes are costing us to many games.

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24 Aug 2015 17:53:00
Who do posters think we should play up top against Barnsley? Considering the injuries we have, a couple more could be a disaster. Imagine if our only strikers limped off, for example.

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24 Aug 2015 19:44:27
Lukaku and Naismith.

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24 Aug 2015 19:53:39
Players could get injured at anytime - even in training as Evertonans know,only too well!
Besides, surely we want to have a real go at the League Cup this season. I'd only rotate the team if a player needs a rest and/or needs to recover from a minor injury. I certainly wouldn't want to be selecting inexperienced youngsters, but I'd accept giving the unused-so-far-this-season players in our senior squad a chance of some competitive game-time.

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24 Aug 2015 20:13:02
Lukaku, Kev and Del Boy

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24 Aug 2015 17:23:37
Is it me or we being linked with to many good players now when in fact we will sign some lad from Argentina and some striker for peanuts who no one has ever heard of builds are hopes up just before a big game keeps the fans happy then we all wake up Monday morning to deals being off smells like a rat to me.

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24 Aug 2015 17:45:30
A newspaper reports Everton struggling to secure work permit for mori lol

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24 Aug 2015 14:52:00
Word is English press saying deal off, Ukraine media saying its on 50/50 mind you this is massive sports media over there where as hear it's pretty low key most reports are by papers where over there it's seems as though the deal is happening even people saying goodbye and coaches talking about exit, there has been no contact regarding Bernard but yet our press say we are in for him, by the way Roma has not been talked about in Ukraine.
You have to remember Bill loves drama/Theatre did anyone think this transfer window was going to be smooth get everyone in before the start of season, don't blame Bill he has drama in his heart he thrives on it. This deal for Yarmolenko will take you to the brink I can see it coming, he has you right where he wants you week left and he has teased you with this deal it now comes across as though the deal is going sour, it will crank up later this week the more clubs are involved in deadline day for bigger reasons than football it's media exposure for one, best deals remember it's basically like the stock market this deal will be worth more to kiev on deadline day than it would of today or month ago were talking millions here, it's a business transaction, Bill will pull one out of the bag, he has too just to settle the crowd down, he is not a fool that's his best quality the guy keeps bums on seats simple

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24 Aug 2015 14:29:58
Word is English press saying deal off, Ukraine media saying its on 50/50 mind you this is massive sports media over there where as hear it's pretty low key most reports are by papers where over there it's seems as though the deal is happening even people saying goodbye and coaches talking about exit, there has been no contact regarding Bernard but yet our press say we are in for him, by the way Roma has not been talked about in Ukraine.
You have to remember Bill loves drama/Theatre did anyone think this transfer window was going to be smooth get everyone in before the start of season, don't blame Bill he has drama in his heart he thrives on it. This deal for Yarmolenko will take you to the brink I can see it coming, he has you right where he wants you week left and he has teased you with this deal it now comes across as though the deal is going sour, it will crank up later this week the more clubs are involved in deadline day for bigger reasons than football it's media exposure for one, best deals remember it's basically like the stock market this deal will be worth more to kiev on deadline day than it would of today or month ago were talking millions here, it's a business transaction, Bill will pull one out of the bag, he has too just to settle the crowd down, he is not a fool that's his best quality the guy keeps bums on seats simple

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24 Aug 2015 17:36:49
Such a good post, I read it twice.

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24 Aug 2015 17:51:57
always had the feeling this might not happen, kiev will be after top money for their best player just like any club, I would expect that we would want to avoid any kind of Dutch auction!

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24 Aug 2015 12:54:48
hi ed do u think funes mori will get a work permit because I have a feeling he won't because u have had to play 75 percent of matches for your country which he has only made 1 but Is in squad for there friendly matches coming up it seems we are pinning r hopes on the rule for exceptional talent rule which allows for a work permit to be granted we have fallen fowl of the work permit rule on numerous accasions when trying to sign players let's hope lightning dosent strike again apparently funes mori Is supposed to be a very good player I hope we can manage to sign him

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{Ed001's Note - if he costs more than £10m he gets a work permit automatically, if I remember correctly.}

24 Aug 2015 15:49:40
He has played in usa and I think I heard he holds italian passport

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24 Aug 2015 12:53:06
Sky now reporting we have pulled away from yarmelenko.

If we have I'm gutted he is a too player!

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24 Aug 2015 01:50:19
It appears the Yarmolenko move is still possible lads! According to respective sources in Ukraine, the President of Dynamo Kiev wanted to fly Yarmolenko out for the City game, Yarmolenko wanted this too. The issue was the Manager told him not to do it as he wanted time to think. The issue is getting Yarmolenko's replacement, that is the stumbling block, can't we just give them McGeady? To be fair I wouldn't wish him on my worst enemy, least of all on a club that we want to do business with. Even the Kiev first team coach said when Yarmolenko leaves (not if) it will be right, he had nothing left to prove here and should be playing on a higher level as he is more than good enough. People in Ukraine are saying Bernard is only being mentioned to make Kiev hurry up and sell Yarmolenko to us as them and Shaktar are rivals and want their players playing at the best possible teams so the clubs have a but of competition there. A panel show was held and one of the people there (Asicky? Ashki? Asitsy? Probably none of them said 'Bernard in England? Haha come on' which is fair enough as he makes Aaron Lennon look like Andre The Giant and looks skinnier then Kiera Knightly if she lost a bit of weight. Fingers crossed lads.

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24 Aug 2015 07:05:58
hope your right swan would be a great buy add another striker and imo we will have one very strong squad one that should compete high up the league this season

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24 Aug 2015 10:57:19
I thought that to Swan, they are playing hard ball so we cool interest which gets them flapping, I still think it is a goer mate

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24 Aug 2015 01:30:01
Is oviado injured again, or is he just not being selected for some reason?

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24 Aug 2015 00:19:10
So Martinez has told Kiev to get stuffed! Page 33 Roberto's Cooking At Home

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24 Aug 2015 01:51:19
Cooking phenominal dishes being prepared in a good moment with real intensity and character.

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24 Aug 2015 11:55:55
Haha , love it swan

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