Everton Banter Archive April 24 2016

24 Apr 2016 23:31:19
. all of the press outlets stating tonight that David Moyes will def. not be Evertons next manager!

25 Apr 2016 00:26:00
Koeman would be my choice without a doubt. I think he's the perfect fit for us, plus he's established enough to attract quality players this summer. That's if he fancies the challenge.

25 Apr 2016 02:10:16
cannot spell his name, but if the psg manager were to become available, he would be my first choice, don't know if we would be a big enough draw!

24 Apr 2016 22:25:50
I'm sat on my coach on my way home from Wembley after making a weekend of it using all my phone data waiting to hear the long over due news Martinez has gone. how much longer and data do I need you use?

{Ed025's Note - knowing us you may need a lot lee..

24 Apr 2016 21:19:23
What's Michael Laudrup doing these days? When he was a Swansea they were fantastic considering their squad.

If I can remember correctly he left Swansea on his own accord due to them not backing him in the transfer market. With his status as a player and now a manager and our new financial clout could be worth a shout.

24 Apr 2016 22:30:34
He was complete failure that is why he was sacked.

24 Apr 2016 22:44:15
Weren't they challenging for top six with a relatively championship quality squad?

24 Apr 2016 22:46:50
I wouldn't say a complete failure as they had their best season under him? Maybe the lack of backing made him lose motivation?

24 Apr 2016 21:02:13
Whats the situation with Dunc F. Will he be kept on if the phenomenal one is shown the door.

{Ed025's Note - that will depend on who is brought in i expect alan..

24 Apr 2016 22:02:11
Ed I agree with those two but then why not the others? Warburton did a fantastic job with Brentford as well. Everton always have been and always will be my number 1 team but living in Burnley and watching them struggle with teams like Preston and Gillingham and be where they are now is incredible and that is down to them two men. Surely it's worth giving them a chance and pay a lot less than we would have to pay for Pellegrini who in all respect will retire soon and we will be back to square one.

{Ed025's Note - i see where your coming from duaney but imo that sort of mentality where we have put frugality before success is what has held this club back in the past, if you want to be successful you have to think big, big manager..big players.. and a big stadium, with moshiri we have the chance to give this big time a real crack mate and i would like to see us go for it..

24 Apr 2016 22:22:12
I truly believe Moshiri has big plans and that excites me Ed. But after the decline of the last two seasons surely if we give a young manager a chance, not just the ones I've mentioned I'm in no way against the bright young foreign managers mentioned (I was just doing the whole support British managers thing) . I just like the idea of the next generation of 'superstars' being excited about the Everton project.

{Ed025's Note - in the end we wont get a say in it mate, but the aim for all of us is the same..to see everton up where we belong dining at the top table..

24 Apr 2016 22:31:35
That we can agree on Ed. Whatever happens this summer will be eventful!

{Ed025's Note - and i cant wait duaney..

24 Apr 2016 20:15:07
Diego Simeone from Athletico.

{Ed025's Note - good manager liam, but cant speak english and is unwilling to learn it apparently, which is a major issue..

24 Apr 2016 20:33:22
pleas e let these eddie howe rumours go away its like bad dream. wot team in the top 8 would av him. if we end up with him we may aswell give up.

{Ed025's Note - not one on my shortlist i must say paul, but if it was him in..or bobby to stay how would you vote?..

24 Apr 2016 21:19:38
hate to say it but I would stick with robbie. better the devil ye no and all that.

24 Apr 2016 19:56:50
Everton fc have been successful when they have had a positive boardroom behind the manager from the beginning of our history thru John Moore ph lip carter they have been positive in everything great and good about our club when carter resigned and stepped away the club spiral almost into oblivion one man was thee the whole time sitting there and did nothing about it yes the one and only bill ken Wright he watched as Johnson almost bankrupt the club before he saved it for the paltry sum of £20 million pounds but also took on debt he couldn't pay back and brought in the vultures waiting ala green and Earl who lent him the money et a strong al interest rates as to not show in the banks for any future sale well now we're have a boardroom with Mr moshiri about to support the manager maybe just maybe the giant will reawaken and prove once more nil sat is inside optimum.

24 Apr 2016 19:21:47
I was asked a few months ago think it was Dagenham gooner if we had a better squad man for man than Leicester city now I know Leicester are/ have done well but I still thought we had the stronger squad I've now just seen a stat there haven't looked it up so I might be wrong but Leicester city have won more games this season (21) than we have the last two seasons so Dags I'd like to change my mind mate haha.

24 Apr 2016 19:14:54
Assuming the rumours are true, I'd actually like to say thanks to Martinez. He deserves to go, but his reign hasn't been without it's positives.

He has left the club in a far better position than when he joined as regards to the youth set up and the young players at the club, and I'll always remember that 3-0 win over Arsenal in his first season. For me that is the best Everton performance I've ever seen in my lifetime (I'm 27) . Also, hos tenure also saw my favourite match that I've ever been to (United away that same season) .

For me, the job was just too big for him, and you can't blame him for having a go. Thanks for (some) of the memories Bobby.

24 Apr 2016 20:27:35
Tommy, I have to politely disagree. and tbh I don't think he deserves any thanks. Firstly he gets £2-3m a year for the job. so he has been very well paid for the task. Second he has had every opportunity to redeem himself and has rejected opinions of fans and players in some instances, third many key players will be leaving due to the team failing to break the glass ceiling that is top 4 fourth he has continuously tried to con the fans with his drivvel during most post match conferences. which to me means he thinks we're actually stupid, and fifth but by no means last I think he has destroyed the credibility that the club built up over the last 10 yrs. in moyes tenure (I'm not advocating moyes return) . I honestly believe that the man is egotistical, arrogant and knows far less about football than he is keen to admit. he is a fraud.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure...but i get the feeling your not a big fan jcl.. :)

24 Apr 2016 20:52:47
Ed, I wanted him gone Christmas last season tbh. for the reasons we all want him gone now. what Gauls me the most is the drivvel he comes out with to convince us the team played well, and his way is right. when its clearly not the case. just had enough of his tenure.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all have jcl, its up to the board now mate to do the right thing..they have to show us they have the balls to do it..

24 Apr 2016 21:00:20
I think they have no other option ed.

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately they do jcl...he could be kept on!..

24 Apr 2016 21:08:04
What a frightening prospect. nevertheless. I'll still b there. makes me a hypocrite but goodison is my church and Everton my religion😉.

{Ed025's Note - amen to that jcl..

24 Apr 2016 21:55:48
I respect your opinion jcl, it's okay that we have differing points of view.

For me personally, I've wanted him gone for nearly 18 months now myself. I know all of his flaws (and there are many, my biggest bugbear is that he's supposed to be a manager yet appears completely tactically inept) .

However, I've been a season ticket holder for 9 years now, and for me his first season was the best I've ever witnessed in my life time (Bear in mind I was 6 when we won the FA Cup in 1995) . I will always have fond memories of the 2013/ 14 season, I saw some great football. So for me he deserves thanks for making me believe that we are capable of more than just finishing 5th-10th.

Conversely, this season is the worst I've seen since I got a season ticket, and I am glad to see the back of him and hopeful for our future.

24 Apr 2016 18:06:06
If true I am happy with the sacking of Martinez. On the other hand I think all blues need to give a little respect to him at the end of the day there have been some good days under him and just overall he hasn't cut the mustard. I say thanks Martinez just wasn't your number.

{Ed025's Note - well said keato, nice guy but the job was just a bridge too far..

24 Apr 2016 23:16:07
Couldn't agree more, nice bloke. I really liked the way he bought into the customs and heritage of our club. hopefully whoever replaces him does the same. somehow I can't see the likes of Jose doing that.as far as I've seen, Jose is all about Jose, where at least with RM he knew the history of our great club.

24 Apr 2016 16:41:29
This is the most excited I've been as an evertonian in months!

{Ed025's Note - dont tell your bird that longy.. :)

24 Apr 2016 16:48:17
Like a line from only fools and horses that ed.

Rachel's dad (referring to a pocket watch) : this is the most excited I've ever been Del.

Del Boy: must have been a blinding honeymoon.

{Ed025's Note - im a massive fan RIB and know all the episodes verbatim, its where i get most of my material mate.. :)

24 Apr 2016 16:51:49
She said she would forgive me but only if Roberto gets the bullet today.

{Ed025's Note - i have a feeling you wont be forgiven then mate.. :(

24 Apr 2016 16:58:49
Mange' tout ed, mange' tout.

{Ed025's Note - cru de te al a plat RIB.. :)

24 Apr 2016 16:02:55
Lukaku was worth 50 million how much do you think he is worth now after missing a pen and at least 3 or 4 goal attempts with a touch like an elephant in front of goal an other over rated player at the club I can think of at least 4 others that come to mind it's not all down to the manager players are not good enough I bet the likes of gerard would not of missed that pen.

24 Apr 2016 16:12:16
His goals have effectively kept us up this season but I wouldn't feel too aggrieved getting 50m for him now. Although if he had some support up front it might help. He's always so isolated.

{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point gibbo..

24 Apr 2016 15:23:44
. tick tock tick tock. & still no official announcement from the club about the termination of the clueless 1s contract. this is a disgrace and blue Bill needs to show some balls and do what's right for our club. it's so simple, just put big Dunc and Unsy in charge for the final 4 games and then go all out to get Pelligrini or De Boer in ready for the start of next season! Time for some serious protests at our next home game me thinks!

24 Apr 2016 13:26:45
I just can't believe that result and all anger aside I have watched the game again and again and got the life of me I cannot understand how Lukaku did not score yesterday
I also heard about the loss of a supporter at the game, so sad and the match and result are meaningless in comparison
My thoughts are with his family.

24 Apr 2016 13:51:29
Just heard the fella didn't die and is being treated in hospital
Thank God.

24 Apr 2016 11:55:17
Regarding a new manager IF Bobby goes I would suggest we go with someone who can best manage and motivate our excellent crop of youngsters. Bring in a first class keeper and take it from there. I have a feeling Moyes will come out soon saying he would play a more attacking style as our players have shown they can do that (together with his cautious style) and that will land him the job. Not saying it's what I want but I reckon that will happen.

24 Apr 2016 13:14:10
wouldnt want moyes back, and all the talk is now about eddie howe, sorry, but he may be a good up and coming manager, but we need someone with proven experience at top level to come in.

24 Apr 2016 14:00:39
For me, the only man that fits the bill ( pardon the pun ) is frank de boar
He ticks all the boxes that we need
Fantastic reputation, a proven winner at the top level, great youth set up and development, great understanding of the game, can attract top names, plays solid football and is ready to take the next step in his career.
He is also young enough to build the next great dynasty in football at EFC.
Just my opinion but do you see anyone else around who can tick all the boxes that this man can?
I think his no2 is Dennis bergkamp
Seriously can anymore suggest another that comes close to this man?
I even believe the board would be happy as he wouldn't need massive amounts of money due to his ability to actually manage players rather than buy big names.
Our youth would benefit massively from this man and we have a perfect opportunity to get this man in now before someone else grabs the next legend!

24 Apr 2016 15:27:08
He manages the best club in a one team league could be out of his depth at Everton.

24 Apr 2016 16:05:11
What about Psv? Feynoord? Twente? All winners
Is our league so competitive yes?
Have a look at the teams that have won the league title in the last 20 yrs.
3 team league?
Before you dismiss Ajax and the eredivisie, have a look at his mentality and his ethics because after all that is what we should look for in a manager mate also have a look at his experience, honours and reputation and then ask yourself could he be ready for a challenge that could take his career to the next level?
Who you want?
Jose m? He would be gone in 3 yrs and we'd be in debt and have no youth system.
Pellegrini? In 2/ 3 yrs would be retired
Eddie Howe? Not ready yet
Who else has the potential?

24 Apr 2016 09:57:57
Would just like to congratulate all everton fans at Wembley yesterday, what an atmosphere we created. We certainly showed the mancs how to do it. Would also like to send my thoughts to the family who lost their father to a heart attack in the second half, it puts everything in to perspective.

{Ed025's Note - it really does mate..

24 Apr 2016 08:55:33
I am still raging at these RM comments yesterday, "Every season we are developing and reaching certain signs where I feel we can please our fans and bring the silverware they deserve - but clearly, at moments like this of true disappointment, it is very difficult to see through that the real good things we have developed over the last three seasons. " What a deluded idiot. On a brighter note, the atmosphere yesterday was electric. Before the match in the torch was amazing and all blues in amazingly high spirits given what happened midweek. The fans can be proud of themselves RM not so much #OUT.

24 Apr 2016 09:08:22
ToffeeBlueJo

I have managed to quell my 'raging' at the 'fraudulent one' as he is a serial deceiver! and is beyond the help and advice of wiser folk like you and I and many others .

He won Silver ware with WAFC and the guy has been dining out for free ever since!
Now the situation has changed significantly and the meal tickets are running very low.

24 Apr 2016 11:17:51
I am intrigued by your comments above, he is beyond help and advice from wiser folks like you and I and many others, please because I would love to know what your credentials are, which leagues you have managed in, maybe even you could let us know the clubs you have played for that give you such an insight.
Maybe you could tell us what coaching badges you have.
You never know you maybe the replacement we have been looking for!

24 Apr 2016 12:25:51
I have already replied to this 'flame poster' and btw I'm just off to get my coaching badges so I can be allowed an opinion on these boards so toodle pip .

24 Apr 2016 12:26:25
I honestly think it's time for a change at the helm, but to be fair, I do think a little bit of bobbys waffle gets lost in translation which makes him sound more of a bell End than he actually is. Let's just leave it to the board eh and stop sounding like kopites.

24 Apr 2016 12:43:15
'Flame poster' I'm confused? My point is we were awful in the 1st half and could have quite easily have been 3-0 down. We were much improved in the second as we pressed higher and had better 'intensity' as RM would say. I made a comment at half time that the 2 times we played a quick ball in the 1st half we had 2 attempts on target and it was only a poor 1st touch both times that stopped us from scoring. There is currently and always has been a natural unbalance in our set up, the left side is always void and either we expect Baines to push on or Rom goes there which leaves us lacking up top.

24 Apr 2016 12:47:45
Agree. Top busineesmen don't put up with crap unless you own ratners.

24 Apr 2016 12:50:34
ToffeeBlueJo

Wasn't meant for you mate and haven't got a problem with your post at all.

24 Apr 2016 13:15:49
Ok pal

I've just skipped through it on the TV and I'm wound up again - I knew it wasn't a good idea.

2 points (bitter I know)
Why was Martial not booked for going in the crowd at the end?
Did anyone hear Van Gaals interview - didn't give us any credit and said the referee gave us all the decisions

Argh - I'm going for a walk to calm down.

23 Apr 2016 20:51:38
Ed,
Couple of posters thought I'd been a bit harsh on Lukaku today, your opinion?
I'm totally raging with him.
Over the last month he's done everything in his power to stick the knife in to employers.
'I want Champions League football'
Allows agent to openly discuss who he might sign for.
Refuses to refute rumours he's a guest of a club and gets shown around it.
Done nothing for a month and then that today!

Needs to work with some junior kids on how to bring a ball down and control it.
Am I in the wrong here?

{Ed025's Note - i am probably making excuses for him here mushy, but football is a very short career and maybe he feels let down by the club, he was maybe promised that the team would be challenging for honours and that they would recruit top class players who would provide him with quality service, as we all know the club has gone backwards over the past 2 seasons and although i would never advocate not trying at everton the light at the end of the tunnel seems to have been switched off, as i say im probably making excuses mate..

24 Apr 2016 15:00:57
Short career yes but the wages there on they could retire after a couple of months work if you call it work anyway.

24 Apr 2016 07:16:29
Just woke up in my hotel room in London to open the curtains and Wembley staring at me, feeling gutted again, please please Everton cheer me up today and sack that clown, a good 30/ 40 mins doesn't make up for months of rubbish on the pitch and from your trap.

24 Apr 2016 03:01:30
Don't know any better than anyone eles, but if spanish bob is their next season, then I won't be. I know there are many many people who feel as I do and I have been going since 1963.
Our money will make no dierance, tv, sponcership, and merchantdising make a far greater contribution to the bottom line, but it is not just old farts like me that this man has drivern away, and any continuation, risks loseing a hole generation.

24 Apr 2016 02:12:39
just got back now 2 10 I morning feeling absolutely gutted. didn't show up till second half and substitutiona r reason we lost game. his one worked in Gerry Coming on but we were crying out for kev. Barry was miss but Gibson was quality.

24 Apr 2016 01:17:00
I have been saying for months that our so called "top players". Stones, Lukaku and Barkley are only Top Players in their own minds! The media have been bigging them up since last season and they have started to believe it to such an extent that they think they only have to turn up and put in mediocre displays week in week out. If I had put in a shift in work as bad as Lukaku played against Liverpool. I would have received a warning or been told not to bother coming in the next day. Its not just Lukaku, but He's making all the noises along with his Father and his agent about needing to be with a big club and wanting to play Champions League Football next season. SO DO THE EVERTON FANS WHO PAY HIS BLOODY WAGES! As a team we don't challenge until the opposition are just outside our box and queueing up for shots and there is no cohesion from defence through midfield it's a joke. We don't have many shots at goal, & we don't trouble opposing centre backs often enough. Ross Barkley is a lazy sod who doesn't tackle much at all and is only a moderate threat thesedays going forward. These players just think they are good. they are average at best. Barkley has not improved as expected and other midfielders are doing the business for their teams. Stones appears to be wanting away and as stated Lukaku wants to leave. We have to replace Martinez asap. my choice would be Frank De Boer from Ajax. if he would come. think he might do now because of the money Mr Moshiri is pledging to spend this summer. Nearly 3 years ago a 21/ 22 year old midfielder converted from a left full back was transferred from Spurs to Real Madrid for a World Record Fee? We have a 22 year old Goalscoring Striker. one of the top young strikers in world football and the transfer fee being touted is around £65m? If Real Madrid, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd or PSG etc want Lukaku then the Transfer Fee should be more than the £85m that Gareth Bale went for! Everton should be asking for £90m+. the lad scores goals. Hopefully whoever the new manager may be will demand that none of the players leave and Moshiri can now afford to do this and tell them they are still under contract to Everton. I for one didn't expect Everton to get a result today at Wembley, but at least they had a go. to little to late though for most fans eh? But Lukaku should have scored at least 2 or 3 goals, and he misses a penalty. and he wants to play for a Top Team? Young Doctors who save lives everyday are striking at the moment and get paid buttons. these players are average at best and the fans are making them MULTI MILLIONAIRES. just for playing Football! Very Sad. Martinez hasn't got a clue how to move our Club on. let's move him on and get someone in who can do just that. longterm. COYB.

24 Apr 2016 02:40:32
A lot of contradiction there with Lukaku, how can you tear him apart like that and then go and say he should be sold for £90 mil + . I thought stones in the second half was immense and is easily going to become one of the best centre backs in the league. Barkley admittedly has been off this season but there's no doubting his talent. Lukaku's finishing and touch were p*ss poor today but he got into so many good positions today and was making some immense runs into the box. On another day he would have got 2 or 3. We will struggle to replace Lukaku, no matter what we get for him. Stones and Barkley need to stay.

24 Apr 2016 07:31:10
Stones keeps making the same errors of judgment over and over again, the talent is obviously there and I refuse to believe that he is not getting one to one coaching, therefore he is either thick or Martinez is telling him it doesn't matter. I just wonder if a Sports Psychologist has been considered.