Everton Banter Archive April 24 2012

24 Apr 2012 18:17:59
not a rumour but i have watched the last three southampton games and i think Ricky Lambert is quality holds the ball up can finish hes not selfish think him and the jelly man would destroy most defenses.also do you think with the young talent we have some one will be sacrifised to raise money i hope not. {Ed025's Note - lambert at 30 may just be too old to invest in. and our youth are not for sale..

24 Apr 2012 17:53:32
In my opinion Leon Osman is probably the most under rated midfield player in the premiership, what are your thoughts... {Ed025's Note - hmmm...not for me mate...perennial under achiever in my book..

Sorry ed, have to disagree with you, leon has been one of our best players for the last 4-3 years {Ed025's Note - flatters to deceive for me mate..maybe its me expecting too much..

Oh Ed, its not very often I disagree with you mate but you have it so so wrong here, Ossies is one of our best players

Degsybluenose

He seems to lose the ball quite easily - players just take it off him with a bit of a nudge

On his day osman is fantastic, he was our best player in the second half of last season and is a very valuable member of our squad

Bez the blue

I like osman but not out wide hes to light wieght knocked of the ball to easily

24 Apr 2012 16:27:39
I was watching MOTD 3 before and they got told to do an all time premier league team so i thought id do my fav everton team over the years in my lifetime anyway the 90's until now
GK SOUTHALL
L BAINES
J HEITINGA
A STUBBS
D WATSON
L DONOVAN
M FELLAINI
A KANCHELSKIS
S PIENAAR
D FERGUSON
N JELAVIC
OR IT COULD BE;
N MARTYN OR HOWARD
D WEIR
P JAGIELKA
R GOUGH
S DISTIN
G SPEED
T GRAVESON
T CAHILL
M ARTETA
K CAMPBELL
P RIDEOUT what do you think? Andy {Ed025's Note - its so hard to compare era,s andy...you see none of your midfielders would get in for a start!....it would be , sheedy, bracewell, reid, steven......or going back further...kendall, harvey ball....and lets not forget dixie dean!!

Your spot on ed. thats why i done it from the 90's if it was earlier i would have dixie dean the legend of course peter reid sheedy and graeme sharp etc andy {Ed025's Note - you missed the 80,s then andy?....bad luck there mate..

Wouldn't put Jelavic in, hes only had half a season and, sure he's been brilliant, but he could be absolutly useless next season. {Ed025's Note - cant see that mate!....youve either got it..or you hav,nt....and hes deffo got it!!!

Comparing eras is to hard but the team from 2000-present would be:
...........................Howard.......................
Nevile......lescott........Jagielka.........Baines
Donovan.....Arteta.........Fellani......Pienaar
.........................Cahill.............................
.....................Ferguson/Jelavic/Yak

Cahill and jelavic both in their primes would have been immense, we would have scored goals for fun

Bez the blue

Ed025 thats not true Ed, look at Yakubu, he was stone useless for us but now he's scoring all around him for Blackburn

24 Apr 2012 15:32:23
Haven't been on in a while Ed, just wondering if Dempsey would be a better option than Donovan if you had the money to buy one who would it be..... Dan {Ed024's Note - Donovan would just nudge it for me, he fits in so well at goodison and gives so much to the side, but both are quality players

Your opinion ed 025?? {Ed025's Note - landon for me as well dan...he just fits mate!..

I really feel if we can sort are right hand side out and another forward we will have a really good team next season,so blue bill please give moyes some money to sort it out,we have a great chance so dont let everyone down bill.Terry blue {Ed025's Note - it would be great terry...but dont get your hopes up too high mate..

24 Apr 2012 14:54:28
Well done Bainesee, top left back in the country easily, possibly the world.

PFA TEAM OF THE YEAR WRITE UP

LEIGHTON BAINES: The affable Evertonian may play understudy to Ashley Cole on the international stage but according to his fellow professionals there hasn't been a better left-back this season. In short, he's the quintessential modern day full-back; as happy bombing forward as he is carrying out his defensive duties. Baines possesses the proverbial wand of a left foot, with his set-pieces again proving to be a key weapon in Everton's attacking armoury in a campaign where goals have proven hard to come by. To date the five he has contributed puts him joint-top of the club's scoring charts, while countless others have been created courtesy of his pinpoint dead ball deliveries

Degsybluenose {Ed024's Note - Baines is a superstar

Baines is our most effective player, his defending, assists and goals are vital to us and he brings out the best in pineaar

Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - quality bez...in bucket loads..

24 Apr 2012 14:47:59
i have took into consideration that we will nto buy no BIG BIG player
so my last team for next year will be.

.....................Howard..........................
Hibbo.....Distin.............Heitinga.....Bainse.
.........................................................
Jarvis.....Gibson..........Pranjic.......Pienaar.
.....................Felliani............................
.....................Jelavic............................
make cahill a sub, he has been better coming of the bench and so have we.
YOBO out
Jags out
Rodwell out, i do like dempsey but do you not think no big club will snap him up if they dont well we will have the funds of rodwell.

toffee haz {Ed024's Note - that would be good enough to challenge for the europa league places

But could you see moyes dropping his favorites

toffee haz

He just did cahill be after a year i remember paisley droping dalgliesh when out off form thats why he won things ruthless is the key look at fergis treatment of berbatov

Pranjic isn't a central midfielder, he is a left fullback or left winger. To accommodate that XI, I would move Fellaini into CM (which I think is his best position anyway), Pienaar in behind the striker in a free role and Pranjic on the left side.

Other than that, I would be happy with the XI and think it could challenge the top 6, especially if Donovan comes in for a while during the season.

24 Apr 2012 12:55:55
When i switched off on Sunday after the game i had a few questions and answers so i thought i would share with you all so here goes.
Answers- Everton have spirit and attitude
Man utd not as good as they think.
Create and convert chances when need to
Jelavic the best since Lineker.

Questions-Why cant you play on front foot all the time
Has Cahill had his day
Can you afford not to buy Pienaar
Can Jags and Hettinga play together.

RED RUSS..Done one for Liverpool too but it aint been
posted yet.

Man u not as good as they think but as it stands they are the best in the country, the table doesnt lie.
jags and jonny can play together,
we will buy pienaar if we have the money and he wants to stay
cahil hasnt nad his day, he may not be scoring goals and not be as effective but he will com good again {Ed024's Note - Cahill is still a quality squad player, but maybe better coming off the bench

Answers
agree
agree
agree
totally agree - love jelly

God knows why
Cahill looks like he belongs behind Felli
Peanuts is the number one priority
Yes

Degsybluenose

That's a decent enough post Russ. You make good points. All us blues are excited in what we have got with Jelavic. We have had great strikers here in the past as you will be aware. Hopefully we can pose more of a challenge for Europe next season.

It's fair to say that man u are equally as poor at the back as they are effective up front. That doesn't mean they gifted us a draw. We worked well, created well and were at times very composed on the ball.

One thing is for sure... Man u are not the force they have been in recent years. And a little more courage from other teams may see them slip up more often.

On another note it's nice to have the opinion of a red without the aggro' , the city has two great teams with families mixed with blue and red. You won't get that anywhere else.

You're a welcome red on this site in my opinion. {Ed024's Note - I am friends with a few decent reds, they are not all bad!!!!

Hi Russ. Here's my opinion on your questions.....

Some blame Moyes for the team sitting back. Me included. (especially when we're in front). Hopefully he will now see the rewards we get by going for it. Recent results have proven that... Sadly, in our good string of games, it was only the derby matches where we have failed to do this. (Still gutted by the way Russ).

For me, Cahills form seemed to just switch off. He was outstanding when we needed him as an emergency forward but he continued to play there when strikers were available. He should have been pushed back to midfield when his goal drought started. I think we'll only know if he's had his day if he gets pushed back. Maybe a straight swap with Felliani would be ideal at this time, given his performance at the weekend! No matter what, Tim Cahill will always remain loyal to his club and have a place in Everton history. A true professional.

Pienaar is a must. Hell of a player and since his return he has shown us how much we missed him. His on AND off the field antics shows us he is certainly capable of getting three points!!

I think there's a lot of mixed feelings on who should be our two main centre backs but Heitinga and Distin look the most solid to me. That might be because they've had a longer spell playing together than Jags and Johnny. Give them time and they could prove to be outstanding. I think against Man U they both had one eye on Distin at left back which may have distracted them slightly. They did ok considering....

Wizard of Osman {Ed024's Note - Great post mate

I think pienarr as come back a better player he had gone stale but is game as freshened up

24 Apr 2012 08:39:58
I've seen a few posts around this site saying our team for next season with pjanic at right back but if I'm not hugely mistaken isn't he very left footed?

24 Apr 2012 01:54:34
Other than our last transfer window, we ain't had much to get excited about when it comes to transfers! And that was only cause we sold the lazy Russian! So this summer I'd be very happy with keeping all our players and signing pea nuts permanently! And maybe get cheeky typical Moyes loan that turns everyone's heads but ends up being quality!! Anything else for me will be a bonus!!

Kurajan

We definiitely need a decent right winger - one who can really make things happen - not just play if off elsewhere - someone who makes you pay attention when he gets the ball because you think this lad can do something and he makes things happen maybe 6 or 7 times in a match - if we get a guy like that over there then jelavic will be getting fed by both wings and through the middle as well - he'd be filling his boots hopefully!

if you only have pienaar then he could get injured or they opposition do a job on him and we could struggle - 2 wingers and it's coming in from all over :)

come on bill!

Would sadly sell Jags, love the player, his attitude, but for me it is the right time. Approaching 30 and I think we have 4 decent CB's already in the squad (Heitinga, Duffy, Distin and Rodwell). And hopefully he gets a crack at Champs League footy as well.

Use the 10mil odd to buy an attacking mid/winger and Pienaar

A love this comment..........We have 4 decent centre backs already!!! I didn't realise Rodwell was now classified as a centre back! Why the hell would we sell Jags? Distin is the oldest of the lot, i'd give him one more season. I personally wouldn't sell anyone, we need to add to the squad not sell. We need to sign Peanuts and get a decent right winger in and i think we'll be ok for next season. Young players like Gueye, Vellios and Barkley to get more opportunities.

Alastair {Ed024's Note - I would only look at offloading the likes of mcfadden and anichebe, we need to add to the quality we already have.

Would just like to defend billy there! He wasn't lazy, he is a very unconfident center mid played on the wing. The players said he was the most skilled player at the club but lacked confidence and was played in the totally wrong wrong position. If you watch him for Russia he is played just behind the striker or in cm and he is great........

TC {Ed025's Note - he just did not seem to fit for me tc...he is obviously a very good player, but i think we got rid at the right time..

You dont buy a right back and play him infront the lad never got arun were he plays for russia inside forward i believe he would have done well in that role