Everton Banter Archive November 23 2013

23 Nov 2013 23:19:42
Positives from today,
Ross is the new 'Gazza' (hopefully without 5 Bellies as a mate).
Del Boy must be given a chance and allowed the time he needs to begin to totally destroy teams. Yes he's raw but OMG given time this lad could become a legend (probably for Barcelona).
Lukaku's headed goal was Bill Dean, Lawton, Royle, Latchford and Ferguson standard.
Just one question, who was supposed to be marking the red who scored their first goal? Pub standard defending.
We still in the mix and that's got to be good.

Not a mention for McCarthy? He was immense today! Those who said he wasn't worth the 13 million pounds we paid are starting to look silly now!

aflm78

Coutinho was Lukaku's man for their first

Think You'll find coutinio was ross' man

23 Nov 2013 19:21:03
Shame we couldn't hold on. But a points a point onwards and upwards fellow blues. We're still up there and a sweet three points against the Potters next week keeps us right in it. Coyb!!

23 Nov 2013 17:34:26
Ed, really want us to keep lukaku with the extra tv money were getting out of 10 is it a possibility? {Ed025's Note - a vague one mate, i would love to keep him, but i dont think its probable...out of 10..2 for me..

It is an unequivocal 0 out of 10. He is the future of their strike force, they will not get rid of him unless It is part of a swap deal for his replacement. Even if they did decide to sell him, they get the same TV money we get, plus their already owned billions, so their is no amount of money we could offer that would get him. If we could, a bigger team would immediately match it and he'd chose them.

We've got an option to buy for £14m at the end of the season. Mourinho doesn't like him. If we could we should exercise it in January and not mess about at the end of the season trying to get a bit of discount then lose him. {Ed025's Note - i dont know where you dreamed that one up mate?, if the beast was available for £14m...the queue would be from here to timbuktu!

23 Nov 2013 15:11:55
Here is my opinion on the ratings for today

Howard-5.5-still doesn't come out for corners and is still awful from long range

Coleman-9-kept coutinho quiet and looked a threat everywhere he went, words cannot describe how good this lad is

Jagielka-7-few decent passes and a few not so decent passes, got stuck in and a good all round performance imo

Distin-7.5-passing was woeful but did keep suarez quiet and kept horrendouson quiet too, only saying he did better than jags just because he had a but more to do imo

Baines-6.5-nothing wrong and link up was good, but not on long enough to make a huge impact

Barry-7-passing and tackling were good and we looked lost in midfield without him when he went to left back

Mccarthy-8-got stuck in and was all round excellent, worked hard and is turning out to be a bargain at 13m

Mirallas-7-one of his better games, ran at people and of course the goal, well done today kev

Barkley-6-when he had the ball we went firward with drive but his passig was poor and he was too greedy and shot when didn't need to

Pienaar-8-a great game today, first touch, passing and link up was fantastic, let's hope he continues from this

Lukaku-7.5-2 well taken goals but lost the ball abit and got outjumped twice in the air by joe sidways allen, good game though

Deulofeu-6.5-feel sorry for him, after missing the first chance his head dropped and he had two great chances to shoot but for some teason chose to run, looked dangerous and is still learning though

A good game today and we actually went for it, one of the best atmospheres at goodison ever today imo, I was sick at 87 mins so got off and heard sturridge had scored, the thought of him doing that stypid irritating dance infront of the everton fans is sickening, i'm happy with a draw though and now just need to beat stoke and we are right back up there, coutinho, now I said I don't rate him and when I said coleman kept him quiet I meant it, when he went through the middle he was amazing so I thought he had a good game just not on the left wing for people who will moan saying I thought he had a bad game, anyway, well done today lads, onwards and upwards, COYB!

Mike-Ox Long

Mike, I thought like you that Pienaar was back to his best.
Degsypulford

Completely agree, except I thought Barkley was great today, was a real threat going forward in the 1st half and showed lots of ability, and adapted well into a deeper role in the 2nd when Deulofeu came on for Baines

23 Nov 2013 16:24:33
Overall I thought this was one of the best efforts of the season. I actually think our pace of play and aggression went up a notch without Baines. If Baines does go perhaps we can use tat money and leftovers from Felli to purchase Lukaku. Beast man. I would love to get Deulofeu long term. He is a bit raw but he puts pressure on the opposing back line and takes shots. Very quick. Super Kev was back and Howard did make some good saves at the end. Disappointing draw but still a great effort.

I find it amusing reading the ratings in the sunday papers wondering how they reach their decisions, I would argue a couple of yours, for me Jags was a rock deserving better than 7 and Barkley had a cracking game, you making out apart from Howard was our worst player come on have a word with yourself. KK.

Lukaku was awful today. Missed a couple of one on ones and his first touch was like that if a 3 legged cart horse yet he scores 2 goals. What can I say?? We're screwed once he goes!
Pod

Barkley- 6? I thought he was one of our better players along with McCarthy and Mirallas. They were the standout performers, and Howard didn't do much wrong aside from organising the wall for the fk, or maybe that was Pienaar's mistake? He kept us in it at the end, so your 5.5 is ridiculous. {Ed025's Note - im with mike mate, he gave the ball away too easily for my liking, i am a big fan of his, but IMO he was not one of our better players..

23 Nov 2013 19:34:37
Dont know where you got barkley had a cracking game from, he overan nearly everytime, passing was awful and tried to do it all himself, if osman or pienaar would of did what he did today everyone would be calling for their heads, there is about 7 of us at the match who all talk and all that, there is a man been going for 40 years said barkley was woeful today, everyone is kissing his arse since the start of the season and i'm a huge fan, I've grown up with him but I can safely say he was nowhere near great today

Mike-Ox Long

Cracking, great? No, one of our better players, big difference.

23 Nov 2013 20:50:42
Doesnt matter he still was showing off too much and was more interested in himself rather than the team, he left mccarthy and coleman open to counter attacks when he simply could of cut across, he didn't track back and was always on his arse and howards organisation for the fk was poor and he wasnt on his line, he didn't come out and catch anything he just stood there, he isn't commanding enough and still today showed he is one of the worst when it comes to long range shots, just my opinion but both were not good enough today

Mike-Ox Long {Ed025's Note - im not having the howard shout ox...the free kick going in was peanuts fault for me, he has been one of the best performers for me this season, and pulled a world class save out of the bag which won us a point in the end..

23 Nov 2013 21:05:58
Fair enough ed but one save doesn't make up for how unreliable he can be, I agree he has been very good this season but he is still unreliable from distance, the ben arfa goal, lampard and ryan taylor are just a few examples of how unready he is from distance, I believe he is one of the best in the world for one on ones but he isn't commanding enough and still could do with coming out for crosses and corners more often, he isn't a bad goalkeeper and again has improved a lot but still he could and should do better a lot of the time

Mike-Ox Long {Ed025's Note - we will have to agree to disagree then mate, there are not many i would swap for our tim..

23 Nov 2013 21:15:08
Neither would I ed in fact, joe hart, petr cech, hugo lloris and david de gea are the only ones in the league I would swap him for, i'm not against him or anything but I just think if he could come for crosses more and be aware and ready for any hint of a shot from disrance he could arguably be one of the best in the world but its these things that don't affect most goalkeepers that hold him back but other than those two things he has everyrything

Mike-Ox Long

I see on the Everton site Barkley was man of the match, but what do they know, you know best hey Mike.

23 Nov 2013 22:53:16
Here we go, its my opinion grow up, the everton site doesn't mean he was man of the match, hows about a bit of respect instead of being so childish you sound like a 10 year old made up because you found a reason to disagree but again you're right football isn't about opinions its all about what some i.t guy at everton thinks, well done mate, very well done

Mike-Ox Long

Distin has to go - and quick!

Mike, respect should be earned not freely given for belligerence.
Granville

24 Nov 2013 14:43:18
Okay granville fair enough but there is no need to be sarcastic about an opinion its not like I said something completely and utterly stupid in my match ratings

Mike-Ox long

I think that's subjective Mike, for me either McCarthy or Barkley should've been MoTM. I don't think Tim had as bad as game as you portray either. It's how you interpret the game, not saying you're wrong or I'm right, we saw things differently which is all good as it'd be a boring old world if everyone was of the same opinion. That's the beauty of football.
Granville

Mike your the one who needs to grow up. There's more niggle surrounding you on this site than anyone else. Your responses are always so personal and cruely worded. That's my opinion. So take a leaf out your own book and grow up.

25 Nov 2013 18:08:21
wow, that's one of the few times I have taken notice, my opinion is one people tend to disagree with and I thrive off that, I get to the point instead of being all nice and smiling whilst secretly yelling at my screen going 'you stupid fool, you are clueless to think that' instead I literally say it in my posts, I don't think about things, if I say something cruel I will be the first to admit it and apologize for being cruel to whoever it is, despite this, granville has twice commented on my 'aggression (not his words but that's the whole point)' when I actually regret saying those things, well done to him for picking them things out, him and my anonymous stalker across several everton websites who points out my infantile way in posts i'm kind in, which I call sad, yet apathetic but mostly just pathetic, everton fans are so fickle sometimes and its very annoying being one, I love my team and I love discussions and hearing other peoples opinion, I will point out if I agree or disagree, if I agree there will be a post with a nice reply, if I disagree even putting the exact words 'i disagree' I am declared the devil and the most aggressive person on the earth, i'm very passionate and love my club more than anything, I have a strong hatred for liverpool (to an extreme extent), united (i have united fans as mates and still enjoy a laugh and joke), chelsea (dont get me started), stoke and arsenal (again don't get me started), so as you can guess I don't have time for a lot of people, especially those who I believe to be personic to the point where I want to slam my head into a door a million times just to fall asleep and forget they ever said something like that, I do get very annoyed with people on this, I respect everyones opinion and i'm open to a nice calm debate whenever possible but if I ever say a hint of sarcasm, exclamation marks or even the odd 'grow up' or 'lol' everything is blown out of proportion and world war god knows what it is now has begun, its not me being aggressive a lot of the time its my thoughts and my own humble opinion being uncommon that people do not respect my own opinion, and the fact that poster was using logic that whatever the everton site says is fact is not respecting anothers opinion which when you tell me to grow up let's face it, its rather laughable when you put into perspective me not respecting peoples opinion, I digress, if I have offended anyone on the site i'm really sorry, its my way i'm not going to change just to keep you and my stalker happy, if I could I would start my own poll 'is Mike-Ox Long aggressive?

yes
no
but anyway sorry again to anyone I have offended, u do respect everyones opinion I just probably don't show it the way I should,

your truly

Mike-Ox Long

sorry for the long post ed, please post it, needed that off my chest for awhile now

What part of that was directed my way Mike, as you refer to two people, your 'stalker' and AN Other?
And I'd like to put it on record I've never accused you of being aggressive, merely that you can sometimes appear to throw your toys out the pram when someone challenges you.
I get it that you're passionate, any real supporter is, and that can sometimes be interpreted, by some, as aggression, but please don't try twisting my words. I'm not sure if you can use the search function, as I'm not registered, but if you can highlight a post where I say you're aggressive then please show it to me. Cheers
Granville

25 Nov 2013 21:43:05
an other, I don't think I meant that mate just the anonymous poster who replied telling me to grow up and my stalker although wouldn't suprise me if its the same person, I didn't say you called me aggressiveike when I said 'not his words', you don't specifically call me aggressive but when you have replied to my more 'aggressive' posts you have shown me the error of my ways and having reread said posts I regret posting hem, that's all, poorly worded, apologies

Mike-Ox Long

No problem Mike, I'm not here to argue. No need for the apology either. All's good
Granville

23 Nov 2013 11:59:23
Howard

Coleman
Jagielka
Distin
Baines

Barry
Mccarthy

Mirallas
Barkley
PIenaar

Lukaky

Osman on the bench yes! Their team looks negative, come on blues!

Mike-Ox. Long

Problem is Everton are beat before they come out which is why Liverpool are so far ahead in these games.

You were saying? Had we had players who could actually finish, we'd have buried the reds. Could have had 7 today.

True, we could have had 7 but so could they. Possible more.

Pod

They could have had 7? Maybe, but they didn't create anything first half, apart from their 2 goals due to our diabolical defending. And then 2nd half they didn't create anything until they went behind, Allen's shocking miss aside. We created the more clear cut chances and had more than double their attempts. But, hey ho, it's goals that count, unfortunately. It would've been a crime had we lost though, we were much the better side throughout. {Ed025's Note - no argument from me pal..

23 Nov 2013 08:55:45
morning,
not been on in ages, work stuff. massive weekend for us I feel. stuck on a warship in plymouth, but at least we can we can watch the game. trying to keep myself busy before kick off but just keep going round in circles! sorry if i'm rambling b****xs . Nervous!

Viva everton!