Everton Banter Archive January 23 2019

23 Jan 2019 20:40:46
I think it's fair to say now that the Everton managers job/ position has become something of a poisoned chalice since the departure of Moyes.

23 Jan 2019 17:17:38
A Liverpool supporter here in peace. Can I ask why a lot of Everton supporters think Batshuyai is the answer? He's a 10 goal a season striker on average.

23 Jan 2019 18:16:18
No idea personally. Not seen enough of the lad to form an opinion.

23 Jan 2019 18:20:35
Basically Rudder and with due respect some are grasping at straws. We have strikers at this Club but nary a one has been given a run of games. Tosun for instance plays well for his Country and scores goals at that level. DCL likewise just needs a run. they all want to give our proven failure of a head coach long enough.

23 Jan 2019 18:59:52
He’s actually got quite an impressive record given the games he’s played, bar Valencia. He absolutely smashed it at Dortmund last season. It’s a difficult one, we can’t attract a Salah or Aguero. We’re not at the top of the food chain, given what’s available to us, I think Batshuayi could be a good option, it’s a risk no doubt but that’s where we are right now, every transfer will be a gamble, if they were top top players they’d be off to a champions league team, got to take a chance and hope they come good.

23 Jan 2019 19:40:45
A lot of fans remember how well our last Belgian striker did so they would be hopeful of that being repeated (I can't see it) . I haven't really seen much of Batshuayi to be quite honest and when I have he's been rather average. With that said, he could probably do a decent job for us.

23 Jan 2019 20:03:34
Do you go to the training sessions DFS?
Every post or reply from you is to belittle the supporters of Silva and the club's decisions.
Every post has that snide dig at Silva. You are not interested in giving Silva a chance. Where were these posts when we won 4 in 5, yoh just lurk in the shadows waiting.


If Tosun doesn't fit the managers system then so be it, if he isn't performing in training why should he be picked?
DCL had a good run of games last season and only scored a handful of goals, but you want him to have another run of games to see if things have changed?
You want to take a striker out who's stroke rate is pretty much 1 in 2?
Tosun has been given chances and has missed some guilt edge chances.
At least Richarlison and DCL get goals. I haven't seen anything from Tosun for a year that says he should be 1st choice no9.

To answer the original question. I don't think we need to splurge a load of cash on Batshuayi, at least not in January when prices are inflated.

23 Jan 2019 20:32:23
Actually Smit666, I do watch U23, U18's and reserves. Never made snide digs at Silva (the coach/ Manager not the person) , I have been consistent in my criticism of his appointment and remain so. When we win I complement the Team/ Squad and support them if they lose draw or win. I always want them to win. I cannot get to away games, so rely on Son's opinion and either live TV or replays (not good, I admit) . You are welcome.

23 Jan 2019 21:03:38
Calling Silva a proven failure, is a dig at him DFS.
Look back at your previous posts and replies and point out to me where you complimented the team because I can't see one. Where were the compliments in November when we won all those games?
The compliments weren't there when we kept Chelsea quiet, gave Arsenal a good game. Attacked and snuffed Liverpool out for 95 minutes, something we haven't done for years.

I spend enough time on here to get a feel for the posters opinions and yours is consistent in pulling Silva to pieces but I am sure you can show me a post where you have complimented the team on their performance whether they win, lose or draw.

There is a history feature on this site which shows your last posts/ replies, may I suggest you look back at them?
I'll look forward to seeing your reply quoting your many compliments to the team.

23 Jan 2019 21:31:46
To play devil’s advocate Smit, I do get where you’re coming from, but I definitely don’t agree with the way MS is persisting with Richarlison up front when we have two decent centre forwards crying out for a chance. If he persisted what Tosun the way he’s persisted with Richarlison and it wasn’t successful, then yes, I could hold my hands up.

We can all see it’s not working and is the familiar Everton story of round holes in square pegs I’m afraid.

I do think silva needs time, but it’s hard to get on board with his method when you can see something he can’t if you know what I mean.

23 Jan 2019 22:12:12
Richarlisons stats are around 1 in 2 for Everton which would put him on 19 for a season. Lukakau averaged 17 a season for us but we still crave a Lukaku replacement.
Will Tosun get 19 in a season? Who knows, but I would guess not.

I agree we need a striker but I don't think we have a striker at the club who could score 1 in 2 or better.

{Ed002's Note - It is not that simple when you consider the chances to create and the overall stats.}

23 Jan 2019 22:33:00
I don’t mean to sound pedantic Smit, but Tosun stats for last year, when he first came, would suggest 15/ 16 goals a season. Richarlison’s stats this year are a goal every 2.3 games - season total of just under 17 goals. That is only relevant if you are talking purely stats of course.

All I am saying, is give Cenk a chance.

23 Jan 2019 22:12:25
No one has mentioned Hornby, I would certainly put him on the bench on Saturday and hopefully a run out.

Some might say too inexperienced but worth Giving him a go, we will never know unless we give it a go and certainly a target man for either Baines/ Digne and Lookman to whip the ball into.

Sometimes you need to chance your arm, why not Saturday at some point.

23 Jan 2019 10:21:17
Ed why do you think our recruitment/ business plan has been so catastrophic over the past 5 years? I think everyone thought we’d really kick on post Moyes but we have completely regressed. Is there any one person to blame for this? The players we’ve bought and managers we’ve hired just haven’t been good enough (I’m excluding this season as it’s too early to call) . Has it just been a case of “the squeaky wheel gets the oil” type of attitude from our board which has led them to make quick, ill informed decisions? Sorry for all the questions, but I just find it staggering how a group of professional businessman who have been in and around the game for some time can just continuously make terrible decisions.

{Ed025's Note - its a mixture of things BB, bad recruitment of players and managers from a board who have been looking for a quick fix, add to that the pressure put on the team by the supporters who are looking for the glory days to come back and its a cocktail of disaster, poor decisions on manager choice and players has meant that we are no further down the line than when moyes left, and to be honest things wont improve until we get some stability and back the manager and DOF to get things right and are given time to do so mate..

23 Jan 2019 12:26:03
I know some will try to lay the blame solely and fully at the feet of Mr Kenwright BB, but those around him, and there are a lot of people, are imo more culpable than him. I agree with Ed025 that what's needed now is stability and everyone, fan and board member alike, pulling in the same direction. We can get out of this mess. We can. And we will. But, as said again and again, it's going to take time.

23 Jan 2019 17:12:47
Yes you are right BigH its Kenwrong LOL.

23 Jan 2019 18:29:30
A pathetic attempt at humour there by Lee boys n girls. Yawn!