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22 Dec 2015 20:05:24
20mil for malenok? Really. Would rather spend 20mil on Butland. Need a keeper more than we need another winger FFS. Oh and a striker please Santa.
22 Dec 2015 21:02:48
Totally Woburnblue.
22 Dec 2015 19:25:09
NBTB are you actually David moyes? No one would deny he did a good job in first couple of years taking us up the league and stabilising us financially but he stagnated, he reached his level and just convinced our supporters that finishing 7th was an amazing achievement for a club like Everton! Come on man be realistic he should never be allowed anywhere near our club again after the way he disrespected us, u want a realistic manager who would take us further?
Pochetino
Howe
Pardew
I hate parses but all 3 of them would improve our team and take us higher than moyes ever did
My personal choice would b Eddie Howe if he got our current squad I believe we would b top3 right now
But obviously your going to disagree and tell me he saved our club and was the 2nd coming.
22 Dec 2015 19:47:15
Johny89 I have only one thing to say to you. I am David Moyes and I am the second coming!
22 Dec 2015 20:05:36
I am nearly at an age that involves pensions. and I have to say that after our mid 80's success, our once great club deteriorated rapidly to the point whereby Walter Smith spent an enormous amount of money yet took the club continually to the brink of relegation. We had a very poor squad that was ageing and season after season flirted with relegation. Moyes came in and overhauled it. How much was down to him and how much was down to scouts I will never know. He managed to get us in both the Champions League and Europa League. His first full season involved getting rid of dead wood and bringing in youth. The average age reduced dramatically. We regularly reached quater finals, had the odd semi and even a final. He signed players such as Mirrallas, Jags, Stones and many others which I think were top quality as well as a few duffers admittedly. He brought Rooney in at the age of 16. He sold high and bought low. Or sold youth to finance the squad in other areas eg Rodwell. Fellaini was a low in high out. But he then believed he was bigger than the club and said some dreadful things which I would bet in hindsight he regrets. I agree he turned out to be a judas with comments he made but surely noone can deny the progress the club made under him. As for stagnating under him, I believe we are now slipping backwards once again. That is down to RM not Moyes. That is my honest assessment.
22 Dec 2015 20:56:42
I seriously would rather 'stagnate' regularly finishing in the top 7, than what we are going to end up with under Mr Martinez. We supposedly have the best Squad we have had for ages yet last season was awful and of course it was not Martinez fault but that naughty Eufa Cup, this season I think we will finish round about 11th or 12th and not a word from the board.
22 Dec 2015 20:57:53
Thank you Degsypulford. Agree with all that. Especially him being a Judas. I have mentioned that before but no one pointed out that I said that.
Judas was forgiven. Why not David Moyes? It is pretty much Christmas after all. As you say Moyes surely regrets all that now.
I did like Smith though. Thought he done well for the club also.
You seem to have the exact same view of Moyes that I have. Shows I'm not alone. I know duncansmum is a Moyes man too. But haven't seen him post anything for awhile.
I suppose its all about opinions. Everyone's going to have different opinions about different things.
22 Dec 2015 21:04:27
Nice to see you back duncansmum 😊.
22 Dec 2015 19:01:26
Just checked my recent posts and saw a reply I missed from aflm where he asked where Neville Southall said Howard was bad and should do better against Palaceand Arsenal etc. He has posted multiple tweets on Twitter saying these things mate.
22 Dec 2015 18:17:51
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22 Dec 2015 18:07:34
About time fans can see how useful TH is. Against the Arse, I was just waiting for him to dither and he obliged instead of reminding Giroud that this is a man's game, I. e. Taking his head off.
22 Dec 2015 14:58:52
It's now just over a week till the transfer window is open, if Martinez has not put together a deal for a new goal keeper to join on Jan 1st, or some time very shortly afderwards, his own departure should follow very quickly, on the grounds of sheer incompetance, stevey wonder could see we need a new goal keeper.
22 Dec 2015 16:54:04
Either that or just give Joel a chance!
22 Dec 2015 16:55:26
I think he will struggle to get a goalkeeper in this window, more likely the summer.
22 Dec 2015 13:27:10
not sure swan if you got my post reply to your post about sako and mangala I suggested sako and alcharaz would take sum beating as the worst partneship. my log in has gone nuts I was corny but now I am blue corny.
22 Dec 2015 12:35:07
How many other posters would like a switch of formation to a 4-4-2? It seems to be working for both Leicester abd Watford and offers support at both ends of the field. If I went with this my team would be Joel, Coleman, Stones, Mori, Baines, Delboy, Barry, Barkley,Mirrallas, Kone, Lukaku. Thoughts?
22 Dec 2015 13:23:18
Kone is useless . Mc Carthy best midfielder we have.
22 Dec 2015 13:40:08
McCarthy is also injured so side picked reflects that. The addition of kone is due to there not being another striker to partner Rom.
22 Dec 2015 14:20:16
Yea not a bad team bluegray87. Prob the same as I would pick if it was 4-4-2. We certainly need a change to spice things up. Same selection for too long now and its obviously not working.
On second thoughts I'd swap Naismith for Kone. Been awhile since Naismith got a run. Bet he's dying to get stuck in.
22 Dec 2015 14:21:02
Cleverly and Barry centre mids Ross on the bench.
22 Dec 2015 14:52:27
Barkley is the reason why we wouldn't go 442 because RM wants to play him every game but he wouldn't start in a 442. Back 4 remains the same but would go Deulofeu Barry McCarthy Mirallas Lukaku Naismith. Torn between Naismith and Kone.
22 Dec 2015 15:31:29
The issue I have with the McCarthy and Barry partnership in a 4-4-2 is we need a ball player to bring it out from midfield which is why I favoured Ross and also Barry is a better defender than McCarthy so warrants a start imo. Interesting that Naismith makes a few sides got to say on reflection would probably have him in over Kone as Roms partner.
22 Dec 2015 16:59:37
what about a 3-5-2?
GK
Mori - Stones - Galloway
Coleman - Barry - Ross - McCarthy - Del boy
Lukaku - Mirallas / Naismith.
22 Dec 2015 17:02:13
Hold on, wasn't the reason you didn't pick McCarthy because he was injured?
Barkley has been playing deeper as of late. So he may well fit into a 4-4-2 now.
Didn't he play very well in the holding midfield position last year. Around this time last year against QPR he played there as far as I know. Scored a cracker too if I remember correctly.
Although if McCarthy was fit I'm not sure what I'd do. I'd have to start McCarthy. His work rate is unbelievable. Couldn't leave him out of the team if he's fully fit.
22 Dec 2015 17:20:20
Yes NBTB no Mccarthy due to him being out injured although even when fit I would still go the same in the centre with Barry and Barkley. Although this is all just speculation as our incompetent manager will stick with the same team/formation that isn't working because he knows know better. A tactician is flexible in the way they set about the way you play and sometimes the tippy tappy doesn't work and you have to go to plan B, which he ain't got. We should go to Newcastle boxing day and play with 2 wingers and 2 forwards and get at them. Lately teams just mark our right side of Gerry and Coleman out the game and that is us screwed. let's see a Baines, Mirrallas partnership down the left too.
22 Dec 2015 17:38:36
I don't know why Barkley is not played up front with Lukaku. Ross can go past players, he can shoot and he can score from close in as he showed against Sunderland. He is wasted at present, playing too far back and passing sideways or backwards. Play Ross and Lukaku up front with both Mirallas and Deulofeu on the wings and a change of keepers would do it for me. So my team depending on fitness would be:
Joel/new keeper
Coleman Stones Jags/Mori Galloway/Baines
Deulofeu McCarthy/Cleverly Barry Mirallas
Barkley Lukaku.
22 Dec 2015 18:53:22
that sounds good to me mike never even thought of that one b4 barkley is a big lad like rom I woudint like to handle them two runnig at me I think barkley could play with his back to goal better than rom and ross"s first touch is better than roms so he could lay the ball off to rom who the way he is playing so far would most likley score. good shout mate.
22 Dec 2015 19:12:36
We need an attacking left sided player maybe Robbie Brady from Norwich . Great left foot and can supply crosses to Lukaka. Brady on one side delefoue on other to supply the bullets for Lukaka to fire.
22 Dec 2015 19:36:56
Rainman1 we have Mirallas that can play there. No need to spend money on Brady. Although he's a decent player.
1940Mike I like the idea of Barkley up front with Rom. Take Clev out of your side and I'd go with that. It would really change things up. At least it would be a change in tactic and a plan B. Unlike there only being plan A at the moment.
22 Dec 2015 20:04:42
I agree but sure he won't play him so I can see him going in January and I think RB is the man along with the palace keeper who I rate very highly.
22 Dec 2015 11:16:02
When you look at our defenders one by one they are very very good some world class and some other younger lads potentially word beaters so why is are defence so bad at times is it all down to the goalkeeper or does it start withe the midfield not helping enough or is it all down to RM.
22 Dec 2015 14:26:25
we tend to either get hit on the counter when someone is out of position or at set pieces, can't remember the last time a team actually broke us down to score.
22 Dec 2015 14:55:53
They need more from the midfield. Too much standing off until they get into the last third when we are then under pressure. Midfielders should do more to close this down. Missing McCarthy big time.
22 Dec 2015 16:54:04
I suppose it makes you wonder why we concede so many with a back four as well as two defensive midfielders?
22 Dec 2015 19:40:04
Agree Toffee Ace. Could be coincidence but whether it is or not we have gone downhill big time since McCarthy got injured.
21 Dec 2015 23:53:26
Just been thinking about it, amazing how many points we would now have if Joel had been playing. He's been directly at fault for ONE goal in his Everton career, Krasnodar at home. Dragged us through the League Cup. Last season, so calm against Palace and Liverpool. People who say "Howards bad but the alternative is so much worse", well, that's false.
There is no evidence of Joel being worse, he looked shaky at Barnsley (his first game all season) and punched a few crosses (if only Howard did that) in his first season. Bar that, what has been wrong? He comes for crosses all day long and catches them, punches on occasions which is fine. He organises the Defence, Howard stands on his line doing nothing. His distribution might be some of the best I've seen, his ability to kick it from his hands and start attacks is amazing, how many times does Howard hold on to it for about 20 seconds before slowly rolling it out, by then, the opportunity is gone.
I think people who call him dodgy are just so used to seeing Howard stand still for crosses that seeing a keeper actually do something looks out of the ordinary, when, in fact, he's doing as well as you could want. Joel is being wasted on the bench, it is what will cost Martinez his job eventually. Howard has nothing, can't even call him a leader when Joel is more vocal and more of a leader than Tim by a long way. This isn't another cheap shot at Tim either, it's genuinely incredible where we would be if Joel would never have been taken out the team.
22 Dec 2015 00:30:22
i know its nothing to do with your post swan but I just had to bask in my joy with someone. I have just watched match of the day 2 and all I av to say is. hahahahahahahah heheheheheheh hahahahahah SACKO.
22 Dec 2015 00:50:15
Oh I know mate, can't head the ball, pass the ball, control the ball. Can barely stand, Ighalo made him fall over about a dozen times and he fell over just trying to control the ball so often. Moment in the second half where he had loads of time and space on the ball and just passed it to a Watford player. My Dad and me watched it and were in bits laughing, makes Mangala look like Maldini. My Liverpool fan mates don't like him one bit, they say he's a false hard man who plays like he's got an anchor strapped to his boot whilst standing atop a banana skin. Based on the games I've seen of him he is dreadful. Laughing stock, him and Mangala would be the funniest Centre Back pairing ever, just people unable to control a ball falling over constantly. Was boss watching Sakho at Goodison when Lukaku annihilated him all game and just pushed him aside like swatting a house fly. He's a funny guy, said he's a scouser now, despite half the LFC fanbase thinking he's garbage and the other half think he's world class, amazing. There was a video I got linked to on Twitter and it's Sakho's best moments. Shows him falling over, heading the ball in the opposite direction he wants, misplacing simple passes, getting bullied by Agbonlahor, Ighalo and Rom. Seriously someone needs to organise a match were we get Mangala and Sakho together at Centre Back, could bring it out on DVD. Watch it whenever you feel down.
22 Dec 2015 06:16:41
Agree Swan we'd have at least 12 extra points. Every time Joels played the defence has seemed more reassured and he controls his box. As u said, the only idiotic mistake I've seen him make was against Krasnodar, Howard makes loads of stupid mistakes every game, and most of them go unpunished so he gets away with half of them. It sends a bad message out that certain players can play shit but still get a game. Mirallas should be in for Kone without doubt, Galloway shouldn't have been dropped either. If you're injured an lose your place you should have to earn it back. Galloway barely put a foot wrong. Martinez is too arrogant to drop Howard. Love the football we're playing this season but can't stand his arrogance. Don't care what anyone says, we should be challenging for the league this season with the team we've got and the fact that other teams are under performing.
22 Dec 2015 07:11:40
I'm basing my judgement on Joel over his entire premier league career Swan not just his fleeting appearances for us. It isn't a given that we would have done much better between the sticks like you are saying mate. It's a possibility but certainly not a given that he would have been so much better. If he was as good as some people make out on here then surely there would have been clubs trying to sign him since we don't play him? Tim is definitely at the end of his EFC career, without a doubt, and hasn't been playing well for a while but that doesn't mean we have to be so disrespectful towards him. It is the manager who selects him week after week, he doesn't pick himself! Our club treats former players very well in comparison to others and that should be the case with TH when he finally walks away.
When that day comes we will still be playing the same way under the same manager regardless of who is in goal. We can highlight mistakes at the back but not finishing chances has cost us just as much as any mistake we make at the back, whether that be by the gk or any other player. If we count up the gilt edged chances we have missed, you could find about 12 points over the last month.
22 Dec 2015 08:37:27
Although we can't be sure how much points Joel would of got us I totally agree Swan. It's a very good post highlighting everything about Joel that shows how much he should be picked.
Good to see you posting something positive Swan. Joel is young and if he ever gets the chance will have teething problems whenever he gets a run of games. Just like any goalkeeper.
In the long run I think he'll be well worth it. When he first played for Everton I must admit I wasn't a fan. He was so scronie and so unsure of himself.
Last season and this season he has filled out well and has done very good whenever he has played. He can only get better with games. He will never make it if he's never picked.
22 Dec 2015 08:41:44
I really have not seen the two in training. and Joel did look suspect when he first came in. so I don't think it is as black and white as some people say. but I do have to agree that Howard has been at fault for quite a few goals this season and Joel should be given a chance. I do believe that other teams have now identified Howard's weaknesses . especially for crosses. Aesenal are not a high ball team but against us had success just by whipping in a couple of crosses. The defense can take ssome of the blame for not closing down the crosses, but Howard is now so rooted it is clear to everyone except the manager it seems.
22 Dec 2015 11:05:24
Joels distribution alone is like an extra attacking weapon that sets up quick counters wereas howard as swan says keeps hold of the ball for to long allowing the opposition the time to regroup. If Howard was half as good as he states he is he would never have been shipped out by United
22 Dec 2015 11:43:16
totally agree Swan, Howard needs to go. we've all been saying it for a long time. Plenty of people have suggested Joel is not the answer, but he's never really had a chance and like you, I would speculate that when played on the odd occasion, he has done himself proud. We must remember that Joel was in the Spanish u21's side keeping a certain De Gea out of the side for a long spell. Give the lad his deserved chance, we wouldn't be in cup semi's for the first time in ages without him.
22 Dec 2015 17:50:30
How many individual mistakes has Tim made this season though? I'd say at least 6 goals he's cost us this season with just his individual mistakes, never mind the mistakes of a defence who obviously have no faith in him and look shaky as a result.
22 Dec 2015 18:55:20
Blue Tommy, I'd say It's double that amount.
22 Dec 2015 21:15:17
I did say at least! I think the major issue is, in my opinion, not just his mistakes but the defences apparent lack of confidence in him. These mistakes between the two are killing us. I think we would be close to top now if Joel was in goal.