21 May 2018 21:27:17
Gentlemen,
There are a few spots left for the Site Posters charity match next month.
As I want full squads and we are getting close to the date, the match fee will be whatever you are happy to donate to SEVA foundation and Macmillan Nurses.
Details are as follows:
16th June, 3pm KO
Wroxton Sports Club
Horley Road, Wroxton, Oxon OX15 6PY
There are cheap local hotels, and as some of the lads have already mentioned, plenty of beer joints!
I am in the process of adding all current participants to a whatsapp group. So I will put my back up phone number here, god forbid I put my usual number :)
07719565417
Whatsapp / text me asap, if you can attend and play.
The game will streamed live on the football rumours facebook page.
If any one reading this wants to donate to the above charities, there is a football rumours just giving donate page.
Everton Banter Archive May 21 2018
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21 May 2018 21:27:39
After reading on Sky Sports Arteta withdrew himself from the race for the Arsenal job because he wanted to have more of a say on the ins and outs at Arsenal. Have a feeling Arsenal are missing out big time. He has been highly rated by Guardiola and is clearly a man full of determination wanting to turn a team into his own. Hoping Farhad and the board consider him before jumping to Silva, Arteta understands our club and the work ethic that we like to see on the pitch. Just imagine seeing a fraction of the football that Manchester City played this year at Goodison next year. Hopefully some clarity on who’ll be the man in the dugout next season over the next couple of days.
COYB.
21 May 2018 21:39:19
Surely he would have even less of a say here on ins and outs then if we have a DoF?
21 May 2018 21:50:03
Not really my point CT I feel the man has been highly thought of by one of the best mangers in the world, he knows what is expected at Everton.
21 May 2018 22:03:14
I agree he seems to be highly thought of but it’s kind of a moot point if the current structure of the club wouldn’t be something he would be willing to work under.
21 May 2018 23:02:26
Is it an issue working under a DOF or more that at Arsenal they regularly sell their star players? And maybe Arteta doesn’t want to have his squad butchered without his say so
I am sure with Brands he won’t be trying to rip the team apart more trying to support the manager with the right playing assets for now and the future.
21 May 2018 21:13:00
Expect various new manager links in the next Day or so, paper talk and bookies trying to attract punters.
I said last week i will be having a few Days to chill out and enjoy the fact Sam has gone.
Also said on a post a month back when someone said have a punt on Arteta which I responded with save your money and stick it on Silva instead.
Nothing has changed my view and fully expect Silva to be our next manager.
21 May 2018 22:59:52
With Arsenals twist today, I'd say we have as much clue as anyone. We all know who's available and we all know what clubs are looking for new managers.
Silva is clearly a favourite. Either way I really hope it's finalised in the next couple of days.
21 May 2018 20:49:40
Odds on Villas Boas slashed.
Mentioned him last week.
{Ed025's Note - bookies playing tricks mate..
21 May 2018 20:59:08
Maybe Ed. Do you think it will be Silva or someone else?
{Ed025's Note - silva myself woody..
21 May 2018 21:07:22
I agree, always have odds tumbling first for Van Gal, then Moyes, now Vila’s Boas, notice how Silva odds have nor drifted, think it is nailed on Silva.
{Ed025's Note - me too big nev..
21 May 2018 23:05:10
And it’s not even April fools day!
{Ed025's Note - its always april 1st on here mate..
21 May 2018 20:08:44
According to BBC sport Emery to be the next Arsenal manager. So that's him off our list lol.
21 May 2018 20:42:35
Nah we don't do successful, we like to go for failed Managers, rather like watching a couple of girls that dig each other Everton think they can turn them.
21 May 2018 23:01:35
I'm in no doubt we had a sniff. Blew us off at the 1st flutter of our eyelids.
Out of our league.
For now.
21 May 2018 23:06:12
Feeling positive then DFS even before the new manager has got onboard.
22 May 2018 08:49:03
Southern Toffee. I said the same about Martinez but there again I supported the appointment of Koeman. Just I have a nagging feeling about Silva, he failed at Hull even with the new Manager boost and at Watford (their claim it was Everton's fault is just so much BS, they hired the bloke to do a job and he failed) . Not negativity just common sense assessment. I do not really have the answer but would have thought with the swiftness of change Moshri has instigated he has taken good advice from somewhere. After all is said and done, whoever Everton hire will have my 100 percent support, as it should.
21 May 2018 11:37:29
Perfect manager for me would be Ralph Hasenhuttl - who has just left RB Leipzig.
Would love a team built around young, exciting players like Leipzig have been. And we have the players already to do it - Pickford, Kenny, Robinson, Holgate, Connolly, Davies, Baningime, Vlasic, Dowell, Lookman, DCL.
Eds - are you aware of any interest in him from the club?
{Ed001's Note - no mate sorry.}
21 May 2018 15:52:21
I mentioned him the other day but still think it will be Silva.
21 May 2018 18:17:44
Hassenhutti have to google him but great name.
21 May 2018 11:10:15
Some people who run football clubs are genuine fans, but don't have the wealth to finance progress.
Others may have the wealth, but aren't fans and are only in it to make money.
Apart from Steve Gibson (Middlesbrough) - and perhaps the Coates family (Stoke City) - who else has the wealth AND is a genuine fan of their club?
21 May 2018 12:29:11
Usmanov, Ashley, Kenwright and Moshiri are genuine fans of the clubs they are invested in.
21 May 2018 12:34:20
Kenwright is.
21 May 2018 13:47:15
Smit666: Kenwright is a fan, but is not wealthy enough. The other three are wealthy enough, but I doubt that Ashley supported NUFC and I doubt that Moshiri supported EFC before they became owners.
21 May 2018 14:06:07
moshiri supported arsenal mate when he invested there.
21 May 2018 14:13:59
What's your point Bobby?
21 May 2018 14:55:48
I’m not making any particular point - I’d just like to see how many clubs have wealthy fans as owners - which probably means they have the best interests of the club at heart and the wherewithal to realise it.
21 May 2018 15:22:08
Mike Ashley is a Chelsea fan. Genuine.
21 May 2018 15:59:44
It's a much more common trend in lower league clubs. My cousin bought his local club a fair few years back and said it's his biggest regret, it's just a money pit. It perhaps suggests that not supporting the club you buy is the best approach because if you support them you will likely end up throwing in everything you have causing financial ruin, instead of attempting to run it as a business.
21 May 2018 17:11:50
If fans were told they could run their club, but would have to fund it by mortgaging their homes, or giving up their life savings, or have money taken out of their wages, how many - even the diehard fans - would do that (even if they could afford to do it) ?
Fans are great at expecting other people to finance their club. Buying a season ticket and the replica kit is as far as most fans can go. Running a football club is a money-fit in almost every case - and fans don’t like owners to take money out.
{Ed025's Note - very true that bobby..
21 May 2018 11:07:59
If a new left-back will only sign for us if we make him first choice (albeit not guaranteed) starter ahead of Leighton Baines (who'd become the backup/ cover) , would you accept that as fans?
21 May 2018 11:31:17
If he is a better left back then yeah. I'd be playing Antonee Robinson left back in cup games this season. But for a Baines replacement I'd think Frank Fabra, Joe Bryan or Aarron Martin.
21 May 2018 12:01:25
LB is certainly required.
Baines is still ok. He's not as desperate to be ousted from the team as say, Williams of Jags.
I'm sure a younger LB of quality would be able to displace Baines quickly but I think Baines still has something to offer.
Ideally he'd be into his last season for us. But we have a knack of having really old long serving defenders.
21 May 2018 12:08:35
keep baines integrate Robinson this year ready to take over next year for me like i really rate him.
21 May 2018 12:18:38
got to start giving baines limited time really, if we got a new left back I think the season would be a season of rotating them easing the new one in and easing good ol bainsey out.
21 May 2018 14:15:57
It only works like that with a youth player.
We're probably just going to go a buy a ready made LB. So it will be a simple shoot out of the best player gets picked.
21 May 2018 11:07:07
Although we should aspire (even try) to sign the best players, do you agree that we really need to be in the Champions League in order to attract those players to Everton?
21 May 2018 12:06:00
Its not about agreeing. It's been a fact for over 20 years.
The very best will only play in CL.
Wages can help sway but some players stay in their domestic leagues because they are guaranteed CL. All the Greek and Turk teams. The Scots and most of the Scandinavians.
A 3rd place or above I'd the spot to get. That is a sure fire way to sign a top top player. Nice and early in the window. 4th (as we know from back in the day) for a team like us isn't enough to attract anyone. Especially (as we did) you get beat in the qualifier. Makes it all pointless.
21 May 2018 12:07:47
money wins over champs league for some players so it depends on the individual really.
21 May 2018 12:19:56
only thing about that is some 'big' players that are swayed by the cash and not the competitiveness sometimes come and just take their pay packet and go home.
21 May 2018 13:13:25
Just take a look at the players who have gone to China, it's certainly not for the standard of football they are going to play, offer big money and you have a good chance, but if you only offer the same or not a lot more money than the team in champions league then obviously they will go to them.
21 May 2018 14:09:10
yeah but as my point above look at how they've performed in china.
21 May 2018 15:55:37
4th place goes straight into group stages from this year.
21 May 2018 17:17:55
ToffeeAL: I believe there is a scenario (which didn’t happen this year) where English clubs win the UCL and the UEL - but they finish outside the PL top-four.
They get 2 of England’s UCL places, while the top-3 in the PL get the other places. England only get a maximum of 5 UCL places. The PL team in 4th goes into the UEL.
22 May 2018 21:34:33
My reply was with the understanding that no English clubs would win the two European competitions, if Liverpool lose the final then all four places go to the four best placed teams in the league standings and they all go straight to the group stages.
21 May 2018 11:06:24
Considering Brands' comments about too much player turnover in recent years - but also noting that we have too many professionals on the books - do you expect lots of departures (permanent and loan) and just a few quality signings in key positions?
21 May 2018 12:07:07
in a simple answer, Yes.
21 May 2018 12:10:09
I would expect a lot of lessons learned from last summer.
I think 4 or 5 very good players for 1st team. That's more than enough in one window. With another 2 or 3 in January.
I'm sure we will still sign lots of new players but mostly for u23s.
I'd expect a lot of outs too. Lots of our loans over the last 2 seasons havnt become 1st team contenders. They should all be gone as well.
The squad is a mess but the defence is in a dire state.
21 May 2018 20:10:58
We have learnt a lot from last year - so we sign another 8 players next season? If we do that we have learnt nothing.
21 May 2018 11:05:27
Do you want Everton to have an Executive-Chairman who is involved hands-on with the day-to-day running of the club OR do you want a Chairman who's non-executive (more of a figurehead) albeit still a leader and a strategist.
21 May 2018 11:04:47
There are several Everton players that many fans would be glad to get rid of, but are there any that you would very much want to be kept at the club? Only Pickford and Lookman seem to be wanted by most fans.
What about loans for DCL, Davies, etc.?
21 May 2018 12:06:41
think tom should stay and play with us this year nut a loan for dom to a lower prem team would be good for his development.
21 May 2018 12:18:21
Apart from Pickford and Lookman from the 1st team squad i'd keep Baines, Coleman, Jags, Keane, Robles, Sigurdsson, Davies, Holdgate, DCL, Gueye, Walcott, Tosun. Would offer Robles a new contract and try to sell Steklenberg, if I could not sell him just let Robles go on his free and keep Steklenberg. Would also try to get sales for Bolaise, Besic, Williams, Mori, Rooney, Martina, Schniderlin, Niasee, McCarthy and Mirallas. Loan out Klassen and Sandro what we can't sell keep.
21 May 2018 12:21:15
not seen anyone saying they'd get rid of theo sig coleman or gana mate, four key players.
21 May 2018 11:04:01
Have any of our returning loanees (Besic, Browning, Byrne, Gray, Mirallas, Pennington, Sandro, Charsley, Connolly, Dowell, Galloway, Lookman, Mathis, Robinson and Williams J. ) done enough to have earned a place in the Everton first-team squad?
21 May 2018 12:05:04
lookman, dowell and robinson should be in the first team squad, the rest no not really charsley Byrne grey and connelly maybe another season long loan would benefit and i personally would sell the rest.
21 May 2018 11:02:09
This is what NewsNow clearly state about themselves:
"NewsNow aims to be the world's most accurate and comprehensive Everton FC news aggregator, bringing you the latest Toffees headlines from the best Everton sites and other key regional and national news sources. Whether it's the very latest transfer news from Goodison Park, quotes from the manager's press conference, match previews and reports, or news about the Toffees' progress in the Premier League or FA Cup, we've got it covered. from each site is brought to you automatically and continuously 24/ 7, within around 10 minutes of publication. N. B. Relevance is automatically assessed, so some headlines not qualifying as Everton rumours might appear. "
So, they do not research or verify the stories; instead they trawl the Internet and repeat the stories they find. Each of the individual "news" items they repeat can themselves often be traced back to (and are sometimes openly attributed to) a single original source. Several items are "opinion" articles - from fan forums, etc. - rather than reports of factual events.
By the way, I do read (and enjoy) NewsNow, as I find it interesting and have I nothing against what they do, but I certainly take the items with a pinch of salt.
Repetition of the same item doesn't make it true, but it does tend to make it a hot topic - and it becomes the clickbait that the provider wants.
21 May 2018 16:01:21
Did you notice they had stories on the Everton page about Tom Davies Being sent off at the end of the season? Turns out it was Tom Davies of Coventry nothing to do with the everton player.
21 May 2018 17:22:45
ToffeeAL: exactly - they admit they don’t check the relevance!
21 May 2018 06:43:18
Emery linked with arsenal job why aren't we going after him. He was linked before he went to psg. pleasemr morishe he is a winner simpler!
21 May 2018 11:40:35
Who knows who we are pursuing and who we’re not. There’s so much gossip, and misinformation, that I wonder why the club isn’t (maybe it can’t! ) controlling the media narrative a lot better than it is.
21 May 2018 12:52:39
Who ever the club choose is a risk. The sensible choice tho is still silva. The guy has known about our interest since last year. and has had the past few months to look at our squads strengths/ weakness all be it from the outside but he must have a very good idea/ plan in place to take us forward should he get the gig. Any foreign manager in my opinion would take some time to settle in and decide who he wants to keep or replace.
21 May 2018 14:45:50
I kind of agree with Anom about Silva. He has had plenty of time to watch and plan so even though I don't - atm - see him as our long term boss I think he would settle in quicker than another guy. I guess we just have to wait and see.
21 May 2018 06:08:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st May 2018
20 May 2018 23:58:04
What three main improvements to our game / club would you like from whoever we hire as manager?
Mine our:
1. ‘Forward’ passing. I find the negative style of playing back to the CB when pushing forward highly frustrating. We’ve players who can attack and cause problems but they never seem to be utilised and are crowded out as we give far to much opportunity for teams to get men behind the ball and double up on us.
2. Defensive positioning of CB. If we could get that sorted it could prevent half the slip-ups that resulted in goals last season. We’ve a cracking keeper but he is only as good as the protection in front of him.
3. Dealing with players ‘in-house’. Really haven’t enjoyed the public naming and shaming of managers of late.
What would you like?