Everton Banter Archive May 21 2017

21 May 2017 22:46:14
If Ross Barkley were to leave Everton what team do you see him leaving to? Is he a starter for top 6 sides?

21 May 2017 23:00:19
I do not think a top six club would have him as Spurs do not need him and nobody else seems interested.
So he will probably sign in the end unfortunately he is a big disappointment to me hope he does go.

22 May 2017 00:01:19
Barkley is only going to a top 6 club if arsenal lose Sanchez or spurs lose alli.

22 May 2017 04:04:59
rumours Porto are interested in Barkley not sure how concrete or if it's just his agent via the press to try n force more money hopefully it will be sorted soon.

21 May 2017 18:52:08
Blue Union saying Barkley's signed a new contract.

21 May 2017 19:29:20
If he does, I really hope it's because he wants to stay and not because the big clubs didn't want him. I do hope Ross stays and hopefully with competition for places next season, he can truly become the diamond.

21 May 2017 18:12:24
Rumour has it Barkley has signed a new contract, why would the club need to make a statement tomorrow if he has not either way we will know tomorrow but TBU are saying he has signed.

21 May 2017 18:36:39
Listen to keoman interview I don't think so he was poor when he came on he says we need more so he is moving on .

21 May 2017 18:02:13
Bad end to the season that but let's try and be positive blues big summer ahead. Some cracking players needed and as I said before mentality has to change. Over to Walsh and R. K now ambition ambition ambition, 75 points is not good enough to even get 4th spot now shows what we are up against but with the right signings why not coyb.

21 May 2017 17:17:47
Sad to say but nothing surprising about tha performance.11 v 10.did anyone notice the difference?
Major surgery needed. a very important few weeks coming up! Ins, outs, and creativity please!
Oscar.

21 May 2017 18:00:24
It's not just today we've been like this for months only good thing is the seasons finished, So let's get some new faces in.

21 May 2017 18:13:10
Other than the midfield of Gana, Morgan, and Davies, the remains 8 positions are up for grabs. Perhaps ending the season like this will give RK the freedom to remake the team. Williams will be a CB, and Coleman will be back eventually. Bolasie and Kevin will be frequently used forwards, and Baines will probably still be the left fullback. Holgate at CB with Jags as a back up.

Otherwise it will be quite a summer. Not only will we be looking for players, but between RK, Walsh, and Moshiri, we will actually buy a few,

Some more of the U23's will need to step up, like Lookman, Calvert-Lewin, Browning, Dowell, Walsh, Pennington, Kenny. Perhaps more of them could secure Championship loan outs to improve them.

Better than last year. We still are not phenomenal.

And let us be thankful for those players who made contributions and will likely be leaving. No reason to be negative. Thank you and best wishes for many successes (just don't score against us later on but hat tricks against the Reds) .

21 May 2017 23:15:13
RK has been forced into fast tracking the youngsters who have performed admirably but we need better if we want results, leave sentimentality behind this league is about winning about quality players and achievements!
Davies has been great but we need more qualitiy than Pennington or holgate their time will come.

21 May 2017 17:01:11
Garbage again.

21 May 2017 16:04:50
Awful and flipflops comes to mind sorry but 8 new players needed at least.

21 May 2017
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21 May 2017 11:34:15
Why does Ëd 002 "have such a downer on Everton and its fan's. Why do we even have comments from him, Its not good all the sarcasm he bleets out.

{Ed002's Note - I don't have a "downer" on Everton and "its fans". You get comments from me because people ask about the interest in players in respect of transfers - if the Everton fans don't want that anymore, then I will be more than happy to stop providing such information. And are you going to give some examples of this "sarcasm" or are you just being a bit of a jerk?}

21 May 2017 15:01:34
Ed gets busy on here we are not the only rumours site on here and he must get sick of being asked the Daniel question she over and over when all you need to do is scroll down the page a little bit and the answer is normally there so give him a break he does this for free Yano.

21 May 2017 15:04:19
Ed002 does sometimes come over a little sarcastic and on Everton and it's fans. But hey he has to deal with some ridiculous questions at times and he also answers the same question over and over again. I ffor one hope he/ you continue on this site with the valuable neutral views on situations. Re Barkley, we Evertonians see it as arrogance and diloyalty. but Barkley and his agent have said absolutely nothing in the media and credit to them both from me. Barkley has not said he will not sign a new contract. Nor has he said he wants to play elsewhere. He has continued training every day and when picked to play has given his all. He is doing his job. Working to the contract he was given. Everton FC have brought him through the ranks and are now nervous of losing him for nothing next season. So naturally they want to sell him with 12 months left on his contract. In order to do that, they could have alerted all other potential clubs that he was available. The same way when Alan Ball was sold to Arsenal all those years ago. No rumours, no fuss. just the deal. Unfortunately Mr Koeman decided to discuss it in order to "force" Barkley into a decision. To sign a new contract or say he wants to leave. But there is the 3rd option that Mr Koeman cannot force. The one whereby Barkley plays another 12 months for Everton, becomes a free agent and then decides what to do. That could be to bugger off elsewhere or sign a new lucrative contract with Everton. That option now looks unlikely. I don't know what will pan out now. But I do know I agree with Ed002 and think all this could have been avoided if Mr Koeman had just said, "The Barkley situation is delicate. We hope he will sign a new contract. We have offered him a good one because we want to keep him at Everton. The board are dealing with it and we hope to find a solution soon. " There was absolutely no need to threaten Barkley with transfers and the likes. That was only done to try and create a selling market. I say that as a Blue lifelong Evertonian and for once think we have handled a situation poorly. Sometimes us Evertonians are too sensitive. eg Mr Koeman's red ballson his Christmas tree. boys we are bigger than that! I would love a pair of big red balls!

21 May 2017 15:42:27
Ed002 the information you put on the Everton pages tegarding transfers is very good and I appreciate it.

{Ed002's Note - Thank you Joe.}

21 May 2017 15:56:45
Not the best post you have written BKK Pete.

21 May 2017 03:03:45
If Barkley doesn't sign contract and we have no buyers for him, drop him and not play him in any teams at all for next season. Then see who wants him after that.

{Ed002's Note - Lots of people will. Everton will have embarrassed themselves, players will think twice about signing for such a stupid club and it will be £30M or whatever included wages flushed down the pan. Great idea.}

21 May 2017 08:20:53
Ed, therein lies the problem with modern day football. Players have all the power because of the huge sums of money involved. Most clubs can't afford to lose such amounts of money and players know it so they stomp their feet until they either get the wages they want or a move they want etc. There are lots of recent examples, berahino to name just one.
You probably know more about what clubs do for players in the background to help them feel settled and loved.
Player liaisons, maybe organise buying their houses or cars, sorting birthday presents for wives, girlfriend, kids, etc.
Unless we are in that world, we will never know how things work. Sometimes incomprehensible to a mere mortal like me.
We just have to put our trust in the people who know, rk, sw and the board to get the best outcome for the club.
After all, we as fans support the club and the players, while they play for us. Once they move on, we have new players to support.

{Ed002's Note - That is not a problem at all. It is simply a matter of contracts and nothing to do with player power. It is down to the club offering a player a new contract and the player deciding whether to agree it or seek a new club. We would not be discussing RB potentially running down his contract if the Everton Manager had not, yet again, acted in a totally unprofessional manner.}

21 May 2017 11:00:45
Imo koeman had been forced to go public because ross has shown no interest in signing a new contract and the manager may want to know which players he can plan a squad round for the next 3/ 4 years etc.
Maybe koeman doesn't rate Ross and wants to 'force' him out. I don't know.
Don't think any of us know what conversations have been taking place behind closed doors and what advise Ross has been getting about other clubs (bigger) being interested.

On contracts. They were designed to state terms of employment and protect employees from the sack without due course. Obviously Ross is perfectly within his rights to stay the length of his and leave for free.
Football (and other sports) is just a whole business world unto itself.
I work and I couldn't imagine another company paying my boss to transfer me.

I suppose we got to hold on til 1st Sept and see which players we have and who has gone.

{Ed025's Note - i think koeman is baring his teeth with the ross situation geoff, its a statement of intent that the club will not be trifled with, local lad and evertonian who is an england international getting plaudits all over the place and hes told he can leave, it certainly sends a message out imo mate..

21 May 2017 11:23:15
Good point ed25. Do you agree with ed2 that koeman is embarrassing the club and being unprofessional?
As we all know and have said many times, Ross is a good player and started the season really well but he is so inconsistent and went off the boil.
Maybe koeman doesn't think he'll ever get consistency. He's tried arm round the shoulder, tried criticism and maybe he thinks he wants rid and bring other players in.

{Ed025's Note - ED002 has his opinions and i have mine geoff, i think koeman is doing exactly what i would have done if i were in charge so i find it hard to be critical, i would like ross to stay but dont see why we should kow tow to his every whim and if he wants away then fine, everton FC is the constant and players will come and players will go it happens at every club mate, his loss if you ask me..

21 May 2017 13:16:02
Yes it does, Coleman is the boss reminds me a bit of Alex Ferguson, he would get rid of any player who did not do it his way, worked well for him.