Everton Banter Archive March 21 2016

21 Mar 2016 20:56:32
Can someone tell me why we haven't got in for the liverpool waters project for the stadium

21 Mar 2016 20:43:07
Just saw a statement saying Southall only had 55 clean sheets in 10 years by my recon ing 5 .5 per year I think some bodys sums are wrong ed.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea man but the stats would be easy to find and I am sure every would be interested in how different EFC goalkeepers have performed. So Al, by the weekend you can have something for us.}

21 Mar 2016 20:55:36
Yes I saw something like time Howard had about 120 and Southall about 55 clean sheets twice as many.

21 Mar 2016 20:57:08
Just read up neville 751 appearances 269 clean sheets now that's a goalkeeper boys.

21 Mar 2016 21:23:50
I had the pleasure to see him in goal.

{Ed025's Note - i seen gordon west mate.. :)

22 Mar 2016 08:30:16
West,Rankin,Lawson,dia the drop Mcdonagh,Wood,Arnold to nane a few seen them all nobody could touch big Nev.How much do you reckon he'd be worth in todays market?

22 Mar 2016 13:47:51
According to Wpedia (not always the most reliable but seems plausible) Southall kept 269 clean sheets to Howard's 126. I would suggest that the 55 Southall was quoted was Premier League clean sheets. Howard has kept the third most clean sheets (Gordon West is second with 155) .

21 Mar 2016 19:12:17
Thought I'd put something up other than Martinez talk. Don't know if many others follow lots of Tim Cahill's social media but it's just so refreshing to see him and his boys gear up every weekend to watch the blues, true legend. Don't think you can ever leave the influence of Everton behind once you've been apart of this wonderful club. Would love to see him back in a coaching role at some point, as a younger blue than many on here he has always been my favourite player to grace goodison. Onwards and upwards blues, things might be looking bad at the moment but we are Everton and we will pull through and I am certain our club will be back to greatness sooner rather than later. :)

{Ed025's Note - i like that Tmh, loved tim and everything he stood for, had the privilege of being in his company a few times and hes as genuine as he comes across mate..

21 Mar 2016 11:56:35
What type of manager do we need why is it every time a name is mentioned someone says he won't come or he's no good or he is not are type JM AV just to mention a few what makes us so different to any other club why do people think they won't or Don't want to come.

21 Mar 2016 12:23:59
we won't pay £180k a week for a Manager, maybe in a few years if we get success but we won't now, Wenger, Simeone, Mourinho to name a few would all want this, just money mate that's all, Mr Moshiri is not going to throw 100s of millions at us to buy success, we are going to build something.

21 Mar 2016 13:14:35
I have to agree with you Skylark if you put the facts in front of any manager with the cash he can spend and money he is going to earn who are we to say they won't come. If you don't ask then you defo don't get. We need a man in charge with the qualities and ambition that matches its fans ambitions and that certainly isn't accepting that we are second or third best. If we want the best players then go and get the best manager and if it costs £180k per week then we have to do it as long as Moshiri is prepared to spend that kind of money. If we aren't then be prepared for another Martinez type appointment.

21 Mar 2016 13:22:42
Couldn't put it better myself you get what you pay for its no good sacking the manager then getting another second rate one set your sights high now we have a bit of money like you say if you don't ask you don't get.

21 Mar 2016 14:04:45
Why do fans seem to want old managers probably passed there best ie Wenger or Mourinio who does not like to bring through young talent. Man City have spent fortunes yet still struggle to get into top four.
I think we need to find a younger manager with a long term vision.

{Ed025's Note - its their ability to attract top talent thats the problem milomj, that plus the respect of the players which i believe was the downfall of gary monk at swansea, we have tried an up and coming manager though mate...his name was roberto martinez.. :)

21 Mar 2016 14:38:09
He wasnt up and coming though Ed, can't call a Manager that just got a team relegated (Wigan) up and coming mate, is there anyone left on here that wants to keep Martinez?

{Ed025's Note - i cant think of anyone degs..maybe DM.. :)

21 Mar 2016 16:46:09
Well I was against Martinez from day one to be honest and have unfortuntly been proved right, but I feel that a lot of managers have very false reputions, ie Pellegrini who has attracted players but under achieved in some ways the same for Martinez.
So I do understand where your coming from Ed but there is a new breed of managers out there, and we all have to start somewhere.
Remi Garde came from France with a good name, where are Villa? Allthough having said all this, Ronald Koeman I believe would be a very good choice, was not considered to be as good as Van Gahl in many circles but has proved his point.
Oh yes many years ago when Wenger went to Arsenal, who had heard of him and he did allright then as a younger man.
Picking the right man is not easy that I do know.

21 Mar 2016 19:41:53
I know where you live Ed25, besides you know I have been an avid supporter of Martinez from day one.

{Ed025's Note - thats why i mentioned you DM..with you being his PR guy and all.. :)

21 Mar 2016 21:53:51
If anyone would like to do the maths 180k a week over probably a 5 year deal comes to 47.8 million. That's nearly half of what Mr Moshiri has reportedly said he's willing to put in so it leaves not much for the so called marquee signings we all seem so eager to buy, unless of course the rest of the board change the habit of a lifetime and put their hands in their pockets, either that or there will be a lot more squealing when we sell a couple of our better players.

22 Mar 2016 08:19:18
I would think with the investment and Everton's history of giving a manager time, coupled with the size and nature of what Everton is all about, we would be a very attractive proposition for a lot of managers out there.
The issue is theses days so many promising managers have had so much bad experience at other clubs they can be deemed as failures and unless someone is willing to take a punt on them as Leicester did with Ranierie you will never know if they still have it!

{Ed025's Note - thats a good point wakka..

21 Mar 2016 09:29:19
My plea to the FA, can we have the away teams dressing room at Wembley please.

21 Mar 2016 06:44:11
Liverpool echo reporting that in 1994 Everton suffered 9 home defeats and narrowly avoided relegation, and in 51 suffered 10 home defeats and were relegated. To date. this season we have suffered 8 home defeats and have 2nd worst home record in whole of Europe's top flight. In addition Roberto has stated that the arsenal performance was not good enough and if players want to keep their fa cup place they have to perform better. Those of us who regularly go the game can distinguish between poor players and poor management. On the basis that i'd live ang manager or player to turn their form around I suggest that Roberto takes a ling ponderous look in the mirror.

{Ed025's Note - frightening stats those jcl, im sure moshiri has not invested in a team he thinks will be bottom feeders mate, so he will have to act..and soon..

21 Mar 2016 07:02:59
Completely agree ed. I suspect he will b having talks with Roberto to highlight his concerns. as a minimum.

{Ed025's Note - i think its gone way past concern jcl, if i was farhad i would be saying your p45 is in the post mate..

21 Mar 2016 07:14:15
Didn't want to be too negative ed but I agree.

{Ed025's Note - i usually frown on negativity jcl but its hard to be positive at times mate, i think he is hanging on by his fingernails and the cup run..

21 Mar 2016 07:59:06
I agree Ed, Mr Moshiri would not have become a Billionaire by being nice or making many mistakes, any Billionaire (none inherited) must be a ruthless intelligent person, personally I think it will/ should go like this:

Nothing will happen until our exploits in the FA Cup have been decided, if we go out on the 23rd (my birthday p##s up by the way) then he should be sacked straight after the match, on the coach on the way home, if we go through to the final then all back the guy, again the same with the final, if we go out sacked on the coach and made to find his own way home as this will kill us, if we win he gets until Xmas at a minimum as we could not sack the guy if he brings us the much sought after open top bus, just my thinking on it though.

{Ed025's Note - even if we do win the cup degs i still think he should go at the end of the season mate, how many chances do we give this guy?, he won the cup with wigan yet still took them down and that cant be allowed to even be a possibility for me..

21 Mar 2016 08:10:03
what says it all Ed025 is we are having the same conversations and concerns we all had a year ago!
Quite frightening that nothing has changed.

{Ed025's Note - your right wakka, lets hope farhad comes in with a new broom and cleans up this mess asap mate..

21 Mar 2016 08:25:08
Yes Ed end of the season by all means, all the talk and comments now though, will be immaterial if we get to the final!


My sincerest hope is come what may we as fans of our beloved club still see the big picture . i. e. Bobby has to GO!

{Ed025's Note - bigger picture indeed 247, its no good having an fa cup trophy and be parading it around championship grounds mate..

21 Mar 2016 08:32:50
Bloody Hell Ed . that's not a big picture. its a flamin HORROR FILM.

{Ed025's Note - it really is 247, but the loss of 8 home games up to now speaks for itself mate, its relegation material which ever way you look at it..

21 Mar 2016 09:00:36
My mistake Ed, you are right mate, I was being too nice as usual, now I've had my morning caffeine fix, even if we win the FA Cup he should be sacked, wait until after the open top bus though obviously, or sack him as it pulls back in at Goodison

He has had too many chances mate, let's find a European Gem as there is one out there somewhere.

21 Mar 2016 09:15:17
i agree with every post ed but would moshiri be able to dissmiss bobby on his own or would he need backing. there are at least 40.000 blues who would back him no problem.

{Ed025's Note - with him being the new kid on the block he may not want to go in all guns blazing paul, but he will have support from others on the board and will not jeopardize his investment so if he wants him out it will happen mate..

21 Mar 2016 09:57:14
Eight home league defeats show that other teams have worked out how to play us at Goodison Park. As well as these bad results, there's the inconsistency of performance - individually and collectively.
It's only our away record that's saving us.
However, we've also thrown away leads away from home and we'll be in deep trouble once the rest of the teams work out how to play us when they're at home.
If there was a glimmer of progress under RM, there'd be a reason to keep him, but results (and league position) are worsening under him. At a time when CL qualification - even the PL title - is being challenged for by clubs outside the traditional elite, we're not even contenders.
By all means accentuate the positive -, rather than wallow in negativity - but reality must be confronted. Maybe we're not good enough - in terms of squad or as a club - to be challengers at present, but RM has had enough time to at least consolidate on where we were when he joined.
Our fans want Everton to do well - which would imply RM doing a good job - but we see no signs that he will improve results.
The board believing in a manager - and staying loyal and giving him a decent chance - are laudable, but do they really see genuine signs of progress?

{Ed025's Note - no they dont sid, even the media are beginning to see right through him and he has been their darling for 3 years now, like it or not football is a results business and his stats prove he is not up to the task mate..

21 Mar 2016 10:22:25
Ed025: Roberto Martinez should heed the words of Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry - "A man's got to know his limitations".
Continuing that theme, none of us "feel lucky"!

{Ed025's Note - if he is unaware of them limitations sid he only need look at the league table, plus the 8 home defeats and numerous capitulations when we have games in the bag mate, im afraid its the end of the line..

21 Mar 2016 14:21:01
If we didn't have 38 points already I would be a very very nervous Evertonian right now!

{Ed025's Note - i think we all would wakka, we have some very tricky fixtures to come yet..not least the visit to our noisy neighbours mate..