Everton Banter Archive April 21 2015

 

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21 Apr 2015 21:56:23
Can someone explain to me what this Joe fellow is saying about EFC and Bill? Apparently there was a meeting of something? Anyone know what was said? Cheers,

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22 Apr 2015 08:17:41
Go to evert once site, link to news now and financial details. Don't think we need new stadium.

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22 Apr 2015 09:34:50
What is the evert once site? Looks like your post has been wrongly auto-corrected!

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22 Apr 2015 10:12:23
I've had a look over it and don't really see what use it was. It was all assumption and manipulation of figures.

His assertion that Everton don't need a new stadium is ridiculous. He also sited that Arsenal increased it's external revenue by £111 mil in 10 years and we haven't. Well guess what, they have a relatively new stadium that is easily commercial compared to the cramped area and situation Goodison is in.

This alone totally discredits anything the man said as it's the most basic flaw for our club. He's just another doom monger that provided no viable alternatives to what he was moaning about.

If you have no alternative then your just a man with no ideas.

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22 Apr 2015 10:45:22
There are lies, damn lies, statistics - and now there are Evertonians who can use figures - be they factual, false, or just fanciful - to make their arguments. I have no idea who's right - I wish I could just worry about the football and enjoy watching Everton on the field :-(
Can we at least agree on one thing? That is that Financial Fair Play (FFP) is not creating a level playing field for all clubs to compete on the field in terms of merit rather than money, but instead is preserving the cartel that is a small group of the same clubs with their Champions League, etc., income being creamed off every year.
And, for what it's worth, any new buyer of the club (or investor) would be out to earn a return now that Premier League clubs are awash with cash because the TV deal. Alongside those "speculators", it seems that it's the players and their agents who are walking away with most of the money.
It would appear highly unlikely that a sugar-daddy (or donor as BK might describe them!) is going to come along and fund a massive financial injection at Everton - not that FFP would permit that in all likelihood - so I've no idea what the club's options are.
Final thought: supposedly BK has a plan (he must have a strategy surely?) for the way forward, but I'm blowed if I know what it is - so, if it's not commercially sensitive, and it's revelation wouldn't jeopardise the club, and it's not a sinister plot that involves the black arts, etc., etc., please could he and the board say something to the fans to raise our spirits and bring some genuine (not RM double-speak!) positivity to this disappointing season?
Once a blue, always a blue - you can't escape, it's an addiction, a habit that can't be kicked no matter what Everton does to grind down your enthusiasm and commitment.
:-)

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22 Apr 2015 14:45:45
I noticed that trend in the report, there's no need for a new ground as the people's club want to keep prices down for supporters to use the executive boxes and not have them just for national companies. Three things I'd say, we do need a new stadium, the attitude that we're not going for development and expenditure will not attract good players and just because we suddenly have 30 boxes doesn't mean we have to charge other clubs prices.

I'm just worried that everyone is getting cold feet over the development and just as in the Albert Dock Everton can't afford the costs involved. To that I'd say Arsenal. They spent a fair number of years paying for their new stadium rather than transfers but look at their balance available now that they have paid for the ground.

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22 Apr 2015 18:33:34
I have read, with interest, what was outlined at last nights talk.From one point of view the analisis holds up, however, any kind of economic forcasts must always start with some basic asumption, change any one of these asumption, and the outcome can be VERY, VERY, diffearant.Here their is not time or space to chalange the induvidual asumptions, point by point,however, in broad brush terms, success breads success.The notion that everton cannot attract large corporates, is not well founded, everyone wants to be associated with success, bt,banks, insurance companies, etc, thus only the assumpion that we cannot achive success makes this assumption hold up. I know this is a classic chicken and egg problem, but someone brave enough to put the money in may get a very good return, thus a brave investour, rather than oil baron, might chang the outcome to a radically beter future than the one forcast by last nights speaker.

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22 Apr 2015 19:44:56
We don't need a new ground? what planet is this guy on.Last saturday due to my fault with a cock up with our tickets three of us ended up in the upper Gladwys st in the very last row. Jesus what a joke.Two of us being over 6ft we had no chance at all of sitting down with there being no leg room at all. We spent the whole game sitting on the back of the seat loosing the use of our legs when standing up. I haven't been in this part of the ground since I was a kid. The facilities which I can only imagine must be like being in the bowels of the titanic haven't changed either.As much as I love the place where I've been going since 1970,apart from the park end the place is so outdated its become the millstone around our necks.

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23 Apr 2015 01:57:07
Cheers lads, watched it. Am not convinced he's got it right. Figures seem rather "off"?

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21 Apr 2015 19:31:45
To carry on the kit debate a bit, if we the fans were consulted on the design of the new kit what would you go for?
Based on umbro still being the supplier my choice would be a retro Latchford'esque design.
Royal blue jersey with a white collar and 'V' neck with white diamonds down the arms. White shorts with royal blue diamonds down the legs and plain white socks.
The away kit would have to be an all yellow version of the above with royal blue trim.
All we'd need then, apart from a decent manager and some heavy investment is someone who can cross a ball like Davy Thomas and someone who can put it away like Bob Latchford.

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21 Apr 2015 20:39:07
Nice memories there Rhapsody and a good kit too.
There is a good clip on you tube for our younger supporters when we beat Coventry 6-0.
The last goal is a class.

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21 Apr 2015 21:18:48
Have a few retro jersies and ro be honest if I was designing a new kit I'd stay well away from retro.id keep it modern.i think the retroesque jersey lcs made for us a couple of years ago with the big white collar, chest area was terrible.

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21 Apr 2015 22:37:48
How about a Dutch orange blue shorts away kit?

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22 Apr 2015 14:38:50
I wouldn't go retro, I'd prefer something more noticeable. Whilst the colours aren't suitable for us I remember the sudden change to Germany's kit a few world cups ago. The White kit with the national colours were the biscuit. I'd like a neat design on the shirt using our colours. As a footnote, though, Thomas and Latchford were a joy to watch, no shin pads on Thomas but he dribbled and crossed with ease.

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22 Apr 2015 21:21:01
Thanks for the video footage Ed, brilliant, when men were men and shorts were short.
Ps is that ed025 who runs on the pitch after Latchford's volley?

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21 Apr 2015 09:54:15
Does anyone know what's going on with walton park.when will we know?

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21 Apr 2015 16:55:09
When it's been scrapped as uneconomical, and we go back to painting Goodison and hiding it under more cladding.

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21 Apr 2015 19:22:25
never was a new stadium, & never will be as long as BK is in the chair.
This is just another of his "smoke & mirrors" tricks (a showbiz term) to divert our attention from the manager & the on the field problems have had all season.

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22 Apr 2015 00:09:15
And I suppose the council are also playing to his tune and the mayor. Come on, you are seriously deluded to believe that this is all smoke and mirrors. Too many disconnected party's to the club are involved in the process for it to be fake. You might not want to give the guy any credit and that's your prerogative. But at least give your disdain a platform of belief. Oh, and the new stadium site was looked at before the start of this season when Martinez was having a great first season so not much need for theatre tricks when you think about it.

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