Everton Banter Archive May 20 2012
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20 May 2012 23:07:46
There's a lot of positive posts on here compared to this time last year. It's all down to having a good striker. We havent had a striker of this class in such a long time and therefor have never been this positive going into the summer.
He's better than the Yak in his first season. More clinical than AJ, more consistent than Saha and even though Big Dunc is every blues legend, the Jelly man looks like he could reach those legendary heights too.
Whether we get Pienarr or not you only have to look at the Sunderland game to see that we can be amazing without him. I would like to see him here though.
So it is with good reason we can be optimistic, and I'm not being delusional when I say that we can expect to compete Mongst the top 5 next season if we can get off to a flyer in August. So here's looking forward to a great summer which will see us keep our best players being as they are all on long contracts and start the season with two maybe three additions - Pienaar Huth and Holt. But if not I will still be smiling. COYB
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I think we are all excited for what is hopefully to come from the Jelly man, also the team is looking very good and with a couple of early additions dare I say possible top four
Degsy {Ed025's Note - a good start is vital degsy, for the past few years, we have always started on the back foot, and spent the rest of the season playing catch up, if we are aiming for top 6...or even top 4, we have to get our business done early...and hit the ground running..
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20 May 2012 23:03:37
Howard
Hibbert Jags. Heitinga. Baines
Dempsey. Fellaini Donovan. Pienaar
Hooper. Jelavic.
Everton team 2012-13 .... Please
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I follow Celtic as a second team and would love Hooperman to come to us...He's a great player, with him and the Jellyfish up front we could become a force to be reckoned with!
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Hooper or naismith, who would you prefer ed??
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - hard one that bez, to be honest, i dont know a great deal about either of them, but i hear that jelly likes naismith...so i will say him..
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That team will do me son, thats a top 4 finish
FredNSNO {Ed024's Note - I agree fred, with the right signings there are good times ahead for the blues
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Wheres Gibson? He brings the best out of Fellaini and is reliable to be there when needed
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20 May 2012 23:07:13
the liverpool dillusionists really are hilarious how can they want such different managers martinez..WIGAN 16...avb...unemployed...guediola[spelling]...13 trophies 4 years
when will the kopites learn i mean we won the league at analfield before they existed
paddock toffee
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20 May 2012 22:49:49
whats the odds of England getting through the group stage. cos i think slim after some of roy's choices. andy
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20 May 2012 21:58:30
Oh I thought ince was on loan from the RS, he's good but I would prefer matt phillips. COYB!!
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They released him because of attitude problems or something right? I'd still take him...
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20 May 2012 21:37:34
In my opinion are team next year is:
Howard
Coleman Jags Johnny H Baines
Gibbo Rodders
Pienaar Felliani Fenendes
Jelivic
Sub: Gordon Distin Hibbo Ozzy Barkley Big Vic and Naismith
A good but Cheap side
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Y talk about Fernandez .these type of players r luxury players we don't need .every club they go 2. They end up gting loaned out .no more van der metes ,drenthes ,fernendez s .Everton passed that now
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Still for me it would be hibbo or neville at RB, atleast in the big games anyway, coleman's defensive side of his game just isn't good enough (I hope he proves me wrong). besides Hibbo has been brilliant this season anyway...
Toffeepidge
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Just a comment on chelsea what a disgrace not giving de matio the job no class at all
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20 May 2012 21:33:04
I do not understand why people are saying so many players to buy... we don't suit Spanish players and you may say about Jelivic but Rangers and Everton I think play similar football so hopfully people who :
Play in England
Know Everton
Play Like us
COYB {Ed025's Note - mikel arteta?
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Agree'd ed, its not about where the player is from or what league, its if they suit the club... but if your a top player you suit any team
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20 May 2012 17:24:55
opinions on possible ins and outs please
ed?
INS:
hoilett:free
kranjcar:5m
Rodallega:free
Diame:free
Klasnic:free
owen:free
donovan: 8m or loan
holtby : loan
pienaar:3-5m
straq:2m
dempsey:9m
FEEDBACK PLEASE GUYS? {Ed025's Note - hoilett..no...kranjcar..poss 2m...rodallega..poss..owen..hope not...donovan..on loan jan...holtby..no ..straq..no..dempsey..no
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In my opionion it would be stupid to loan Donovan back in in jan, Surprisingly it costs around 2million or something stupid to loan him in because of insurance (something to do with MLS rules), with not long left on his contract we should just try and buy him right out... Pienaar is a must... and 1 or 2 free's or loans would be good!
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Hoilett-I'd have him but would cost due to being like 21 or something
Kranjcar-Yes, but for less
Rodallega, Diame-Yes
Klasnic-As a bench warmer yes
Owen-No
Donovan-Yes but not for 8m
Holtby-Yes on loan
Pienaar-DEFINITELY YES
Straq-Only on a free
Dempsey-Yes but not for 9m
(Yes means I'd have them, not yes it's likely)
FredNSNO
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20 May 2012 17:03:42
Great news on Chelski winning the champs league, spurs now not in champs league next season so harry will have to trim down his squad and wages so its looking good on peanuts comming home for good. {Ed025's Note - on the other hand...if the likes of modric and bale leave for CL football, he may look to keep some of his fringe players..
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20 May 2012 17:01:55
Quite surprised to hear Tim Howard kept 16 clean sheets this season in all competitions! Our defense was solid all season, even when we were poor at the start of the season we didn't concede many.
Correct me if im wrong ed's or fellow blue's but i don't think we got well beaten in any games this season? Even the 1st half of the season we lost a 2 or 3 games 2-0 but most games we lost at the start of the season were 1-0 or 2-1.
The only game that springs to mind to me was Chelsea away which was 3-1 and the derby away 3-0 (albeit we had a shocking team out for that one)
Well done to our defense and Tim Howard
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20 May 2012 16:57:32
what chance have england got when the hapless woy picks a awful jt over jags?baines wont get a game either because woy will pick the usual suspects regardless of form.downing getting picked after a a terrible season just sums this shambles up.
Ste EFC {Ed025's Note - i agree ste..i gave up on england years ago mate..
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But on a good note, if baines dont play much, better chance of him coming back not injured {Ed025's Note - thats what i say..
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20 May 2012 16:49:41
Just to let you know a few good stats here regarding Everton players.
Premier League Fantasy League top 10's
Goalkeepers
Tim Howard came 4th
Defenders
Leighton Baines came 3rd 2 points behind Terry and 12 behind Kompany
Midfielders
Fellaini came 9th
Strikers Obviously none of our strikers came in the top 10 but still good score by Jelavic of 97 points with 135 points being good enough to get you in the top 10 (Dzeko 135 points)
Just to rub it in no Liverpool players were in the top 10 for the goalkepper, defender and Midfielder category's only Suarez who came 6th in the strikers category with 230 points!
Thought some people who like stats and boring stuff like that would appreciate this info.
COYB
MikeTheBlue {Ed025's Note - cheers mike..
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20 May 2012 16:14:58
Hi Eds, I did something I'd never done before this morning I went onto another teams pages.
It was Chelsea's page to say congrats etc.
However can I say it's not as well set up or linked as our pages are!
So well done Eds, apart from the best team and fans we have the best pages as well.
Rest assured I will not stray from home again.
Big C
PS
I've been thinking, a dangerous habit I know, that maybe I might start refering to the RS as Red Russ's Team instead in a spirit of comradeship after all he seems a sensible lad. however I believe he may actually be a closet Blue and just needs to embrace his true self
(calm down tristen) as a blue!
Russ the offer is there come and join us and "Confusion to the RS"
Big C {Ed024's Note - Russ is a good lad, not all kopites are bad!!! You stay over here Big C mate
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I'm good with that Big C. I like Red Russ cos he is a football fan not a dillusional Kopite. So I say RR's team out of respect for him.
Red Russ, it seems you have some friends over here mate.
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20 May 2012 16:03:55
After last night im very optimistic about next season. Cant see the pool improving much, last night is a major blow for spurs no champs league money and they will now defo lose players and be weaker. If we can add early we will challenge top 5. Not that i like spurs but i would be disgusting if it were us outta the champs league. {Ed024's Note - Top 6 is one if we get a good start, maybe top 5, if someone can just tell moyes the season starts in august
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There is so much more optimism than this time last year, blues can see we have the makings of a top team
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - but we must not get complacent bez...we must still try to improve the squad..
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Weve been optimistic for the last 2 years, and nothing, we seen qpr first game and thought, yes, we can get off to a good start, and nothing. wait and see if we can bring some additions, then get excited
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20 May 2012 16:00:29
Manuel Fernandes... Available on a free after Besiktas agreed to terminate his contract after non payment of wages
Err get it sorted Kenwrong and Moyles!
NogBadTheBad {Ed024's Note - He was great in his first spell for us, i would like to see him back
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Fernandes would be a good addition, he was fantastic when he first came to us, would give us something extra
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - i agree bez..
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20 May 2012 15:53:30
Are Everton in the Europa League?
On the official Premier League website it says:
English winners of the UEFA Champions League who do not qualify through their domestic position go forward as Winners to the group stage, with the team finishing fourth dropping to the UEFA Europa League. In this case, the national association of the title-holder is entitled to one additional place in the UEFA Europa League.
Does this mean we are in? I thought so but am now very doubtful as there isn't any official news anywhere to say yes. {Ed024's Note - We are definitely not in it, but i think we will be in 12 months time
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I can almost guarantee that if Liverpool would have finished 4th instead of Spurs, they'd have found some obscure UEFA ruling that would have had them playing in the Champion's League. They'd have probably already launched their appeal by now; together with a club video with hundreds of Liverpool supporting celebs whinging on demanding their natural birthright of European Champions League football and how they're being victimised...
I feel sorry for Spurs missing out because of them selfish idiots changing the rules in 2005- now there's a sentence I'd never thought I'd ever write... 'I feel sorry for Spurs'
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No. I take the "one additional place" to be referring to the team who finished fourth (spurs) and would otherwise be in the final Champions League spot.
PaulEFC
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Lol that first comment was so bitter it's unreal... what's it got to do with Liverpool?! ah
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Because the rules changed after Liverpool were allowed in the CL but didnt finish top 4
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20 May 2012 14:27:13
right for people who are puzzled about europe. utd, city, arsenal, and chelsea CL spurs drop down to europa league with newcastle and that red team. but its 4 teams so im guessing the last spot goes through the fair play league. even tho chelsea won the fa cup aswell so that spot should go to the team who finished 7th. Its not fair. all we need to do is start the season better then we would qualify for europe. Andy
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20 May 2012 13:59:52
do we have any chance of getting Manny Fernandes Ed? I always here about him turning us down but wasnt it his agent that made him go to valencia because he was apart of the third party ownership? {Ed025's Note - he was mate...not sure about now...but he would be a good signing..
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Is that the player who was owned 3rd party ed when he was last at Everton? A good solid player i like him. RED RUSS {Ed025's Note - it is him russ..
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Remember him against Arsenal surrounded by three players and walking out with the ball, classy
Degy
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20 May 2012 13:47:03
I iz gona make a bigz,bigz,flag for next season any ideas,I wantz it to standz out so me uncle horrice canz see it wen we on da box,he take me to me first game,but he gone back to da motherland,he likes big bootys,and neat rum,so iz try to include these,me also might do one with just da number 23'then change itz every year24'25.he he.....mc.rizzla
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I've not seen Rizzla on here for a while, puts me in a great mood reading his words of wisdom haha.
You don't half sound like my girlfriends family, bajan influence perhaps?
ToffeeJack
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Just put on it
mc.rizzla sayz evertonz iz ze best, yeah! biatch.
that should get attention
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20 May 2012 13:19:46
I to was on the Darkside's page...just to cheer myself up....Shambles, yep a perfect description..apart from Red Sh*te that is... the owners are talking about losing £50m a year,,,having to cut cost,,selling big money players saying the only way to maybe get a satdium is selling "naming rights" (a fiver to whoever comes up with the best name..haha) But the dillusional b*st*rds are still saying..yer...pep Guardiola for mamanger £100m war chest etc etc we'll be challanging for the title...ha
and they call us "bitters"...we just hate them...they hate anyone with a little success....jealousy jealousy jealousy
anyways lads if you find the "Viz" funny you'll find the RS Rumour page hillarious
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Anfields new name is going to be called Never Neverland. Puha, now thats well worth a fiver.
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How bout 'the land that time forgot' for a new name seeing as they all still live in the 80s
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Bum fluff arena, for me
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The Cash Converters Stadium
Blue Bones
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20 May 2012 11:22:08
Pienaar, Dempsey and Rodellaga will do for me this summer. Would only cost less than 10 million.
With the sales of Yobo, Mucha, and a couple of fringe players surely we can afford it??
Hope so {Ed025's Note - me too mate..
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20 May 2012 11:11:25
Just to clear up, teams in the Champions League are as follows:
Man City
Man Utd
Arsenal
Chelsea
And teams in the Europa League are as follows:
Tottenham
Newcastle
Reds**tes
Shame we won't get in but a good start to the season for once could see us challenge for the top 5.
Keith EFC
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Glad the spurs didn't make the so called 'champions' league.
That should make them have to cut their cloth a bit closer - and hopefully persuade them to get pienaar off their wage bill - they may just have kept him for backup otherwise.
I also do not like copy cat Redknapp - who just buys players he knows Moyes wants cos he knows moyes can spot a player better than he can
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Fa Cup Winners
Carling Cup Winners
5th and 6th get Europa legue spots,
Chelsea won the fa cup and liverpool won the carling cup so europe will go to us cause tottenham were the other semi finalist and they got europe for 4th? On twitter everyone seams to say they think we got it ' Search in '' Everton Europa '' Not sure if we get it but we can hope something happens
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20 May 2012 11:07:10
if rodwell and coleman come back from injuries and play the way they did in there first season we can then play 4-4-1-1 Felliani of Jelavic and sign piennar and a back up LM or RM that is a strong team already or as i previously said 4-1-2-1-2 Gibbo CDM felliani CAM and buy a second striker thoughts ed?
toffee haz {Ed025's Note - realistic..and workable kaz..
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I would be happy if we only signed Pienaar and someone on a free. Think Rodellaga is on a free? and apparently this Naismith fella is available for 2 mill?
Although some people slate him, Rodwell if he can stay fit and start to influence games instead of playing "safe" can be a great holding midfielder alongside Gibson with Fellaini pushed up with Jelavic where in my opinion he should always play, there is no other player like him, just behind Jelavic, Good in the air, good with his feet, a goal threat, holding it up, linking play with the likes of Osman, Baines and Pienaar and helping Jelavic out. Perfect.
Howard
Hibbert Jagielka Heitinga Baines
Osman Rodwell Gibson Pienaar
Fellaini
Jelavic
SUBS
Mucha?
Neville
Distin
Coleman
Barkley
Cahill
Rodellaga or Naismith?
Great experience on the bench with Neville, Distin and Cahill, with Coleman pace and Barkley who should play more this season and hopefully a new striker for back up to Jelavic.
Also we still have the likes of Duffy, Gueye, Baxter, Anichebe and Vellios in reserve.
Not a bad squad more than capable of getting in top 6 next season {Ed024's Note - I agree, the squad only needs tinkering with and we can do that by spending a similar amount that we did in January
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20 May 2012 11:04:14
Spurs and Newcastle get Europe league through the league and the last spot goes to the rs as they won the carling cup
Blue kaz {Ed025's Note - cheers kaz..
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20 May 2012 10:28:55
Right, before you jump on my case, I know we will not get europa no matter what..
I just want to know how it's stands now, Chelsea get CL so spurs get knocked back to Europa and Newcastle get fuk all, what happends to Chelsea's europa place from FA cup?
J0hn80y {Ed025's Note - its all too complicated for me johnboy..
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Newcastle qualify for Europa. FA cup place goes to runners up but the RS won the Mickey mouse cup so it goes back to the league.
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For a definitive explanation, I recommend the Wikipedia article entitled '2012-2013 UEFA Europa League'.
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20 May 2012 10:15:38
Manny Fernades is now a free agent! We should get on that! Still only 27 can play anywhere across the midfield and would be great on the right wing were we are lacking a bit {Ed025's Note - im all for that mate..
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He's not a winger mate he is a CM nowadays, and more of a defensive one at that.
ToffeeJack.
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20 May 2012 09:16:07
Hi guys , a dream transfer window for me would involve signing the following players:
1. Steven Pienaar - an absolute MUST
2. Craig Gordon - it would be the first time in a long while that we had 2 reliable keepers , ( if not Craig Gordon then Joe Lewis )
3. Clint Dempsey - hope Tim is calling him a 100 times a day
4. Adam Johnson ( on loan ) obviously could not afford to buy him outright
5. Grant Holt or Steven Naismith - a decent to assist or deputise for an injured jeli
Personally though I think only Pienaar & Naismith have any chance of happening ......COYB ...BLUE4EVER....EVERTONPAUL....BRING ON THE FAT SPANISH WAITER ....
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I like it mate :) we can all hope
ToffeeDave
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20 May 2012 00:11:35
Jc here
Just looked on the dark sides page for a laugh and at tristens comment (class). They are bitter as ever slagging Chelsea off, and Torres. Will they ever change. They need to realise they are no were near the team of the 70s and 80s. But it makes me laugh. They can't even get a manager and they are talking about buying world class players LMFAO. I will love to see the demise of that club after what we went through, but as blues we was there with are team all the way and now were on the up.
I will give there manager till December and the same players will get him sacked like hodgson, by the way were is he now oh ye England manager good luck Roy haha
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20 May 2012 00:09:24
Howard
Hibbert Heitinga Jags Baines
Fellaini
Fernandes Gibson/Rodwell
Naismith Pienaar
Jelavic
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Swap Fellaini with Gibson, and you got yourself a top 6 team
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