Everton Banter Archive January 20 2019

 

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20 Jan 2019 17:27:15
Would love us to make a move for Mitrovic.

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20 Jan 2019 18:16:10
Don't rate him that highly really.

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20 Jan 2019 18:22:35
Must admit I was just watching the Fulham Spurs game and I did wonder if someone like him could be what we are lacking up front.

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20 Jan 2019 18:32:04
looks pretty good with plenty of pace could be a good move.

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20 Jan 2019 18:40:32
Rather have Rondon. On that front, if our head coach does not change his Martinez like stubborness and tactical strategy, how many of our next 4 league games do people think we will win. My offering is 5 points. If he does put an out and out striker on and stick with him, plus our best players in their proper positions, I think 8 points.

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21 Jan 2019 09:02:49
I like rondon too ducks. think calvert lewin is just as good tho and just needs games. my prediction is 10 points before the derby.

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21 Jan 2019 11:04:37
Are Rondonand Mitrovic any better than Tosun or DCL?
Have we really seen enough to fully judge Tosun?

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20 Jan 2019 15:41:21
Team lacks balance everyone can see that. Everyone saying we need a striker, well we have strikers on the bench. Only trouble is there in and out of the side every game. So you will never get any consistency from them.
I've said it before, this season is already over, so play some of the younger players and give them a chance to develop into a team.
It's no good having a great under 23 team if none of them are given a chance to progress. This is the perfect time to do it. Get some bloody energy into the team.

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20 Jan 2019 16:51:32
Fulham have just given a perfect example of this. Lots of energy, everyone working hard, and playing with two strikers. Yes they could still lose, but at least there fans have something to shout about. Would I swap there position in the league? Of course not. But I would swap the passion they play with.

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20 Jan 2019 17:23:08
Or as you alluded to Woeburn, balance the side. Doesn't that mean play players in their positions and play players that show form, don't play your favourites. Paid 40 odd million for Richarlison (premium for upsetting Watford I get that but still to much) , play him on the left wing. Play Tosun and/ or DCL as striker (s) , give them a run in the side. I don't think Silva is the man-manager he purports or rumour says he is. This is the end of one of many opinions stating the same today on various pages: The blame must be put at Silva’s door. He’s failed to fix the problems at the club and he could end up paying the price for it.

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20 Jan 2019 17:32:01
Time to put an arm round them Woeburn and time to man up. Don't know what goes on in the dressing room or in training but I bet the following has not been said and it should have done by now and meant:- 'Some of you are not producing, some of you are not playing for the shirt, you need to buck up or get benched or lower and I will bring in those that want to play and show me they can play'. As you say we have some excellent U23's but no good bringing in one for one, need to pair them up, I. E. those that are used to playing together, that way they can hit the ground running.

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20 Jan 2019 17:53:07
Couldn’t agree more mate. Club could potentially save themselves a fortune.

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20 Jan 2019 19:46:21
Or get relegated next year. How do any young teams do against league 1 and 2 teams in the dodgy cup.

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20 Jan 2019 20:01:27
We are talking about this year, and we are not saying play all the under 23 squad. Read the posts properly before making such a silly comment.

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20 Jan 2019 12:40:42
There is so much negative stuff going on lately it's getting harder and harder to find the positives. I don't know what the answer is, I just know I've begun to look forward to matches more with a sense of trepidation than excitement and that's not right. I'd like to think it will all fall into place eventually and we will start moving in the right direction. The alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

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20 Jan 2019 14:13:37
BigH78. And yet we still go, that is a positive in itself. The alternative does bear thinking about and in fact I would say it is a must and now rather than in Summer in my opinion. With the likes of Kendall and Moyes, you could actually see something there. With Silva, there is nothing there and no evidence to suggest otherwise. As someone else said, he is not the messiah just a very naughty boy.

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20 Jan 2019 15:15:38
Big H I love your optimism in a big way but you must face reality. You have a go at my negative attitude but just realistic.
As Ducks says with Kendall and Moyes you could see progress but with Silva we are going backwards, good players are getting to become bad players. I cannot believe that Coleman has become this bad overnight. Pickford has totally lost it for now, the centre backs do not know weather they are coming or going, I could go on but we can all see it sadly.

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Former Liverpool Managers - Part 7 - The Clown Prince

20 Jan 2019 12:27:04
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Former Liverpool Managers - Part 7 - The Clown Prince

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20 Jan 2019 17:38:48
Enjoyed that Ed. What a different world.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, I didn't know the autolink generated on the Everton site for these. It may be a different world, but still the same old moans about the younger generation not working hard enough and having too many distractions by the older generation!}

20 Jan 2019 18:57:58
Good article that Ed001 thanks for the link.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers dfs, glad you enjoyed.}

20 Jan 2019 11:48:55
Hi Ed025, I've not posted for a while but I'm a bit worried that the apathy that seems to be affecting the club is catching and that I've picked it up! I just can't seem to build any excitement or enthusiasm about my team. Watching Sky Sports News yesterday I found myself just tutting and rolling my eyes when Charlie Nicholas was giving the reports - I should have been getting angry! I'm on the fence about Silva - he just doesn't strike me as a guy who would inspire you as a player. Probably a really nice guy but you wouldn't run through walls for him. I'm hoping he will turn it round but I've found myself feeling worried and apprehensive about next Satuday's cup match rather than looking forward to it! It's not a barrel of laughs living in Britain at the moment!

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{Ed025's Note - im not happy watching us either tezza, its a bit like the poor acts on x factor where i get embarrassed and have to walk out the room because i feel for them mate, im just hoping it clicks but feel we need some new faces if that is to happen mate...but im not holding my breath..

20 Jan 2019 11:28:28
Hi Ed 025 I would like to ask your honest opinion mate, in view of our poor performances on the pitch lately how long do you think realistically Marco will be given to sort out this mess, to be fair he has mostly inherited 2nd rate players from the Koeman and Big Sam eras that will never make it in the top flight as long as they play, there has been some down right rubbish printed on here by so called posters who always come out of the woodwork when things are not going right for our Club with the usual old chestnuts of I told you this would happen and we should of never taken this manager or that player rubbish, for me I feel we have to give Marco enough time to get his own team in place before we judge him at least 18 months or so and a good two or three Windows to get his own players in the door, one last comment I see there were even calls that Marcel was not the right man and even Mr Moshiri should never have taken us over, I ask you mate what ridiculous comments is that, I know it's a game of opinions but in this world of footy time to get it right is of the essence cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - when things are going tits up like it is at the moment GB there will always be unrest from the supporters mate, they are so desperate for us to do well that they will look for reasons why its no going well, im with you that marco needs time but the problem is that we have regressed lately and thats a big concern mate..

20 Jan 2019 22:10:15
In 18 months GB this man will have us down. Currently he is true to form. Hull, he took over with them due for relegation but never the less 6 months to go, first few games an impact but result relegated. Watford 5 months to Christmas and they began to struggle, fired him and they recovered. Us first few games impact, now we are struggling to buy points. Difference we are fortunate the bottom 4 or 5 are worse than us. Martinez first season we finished 5th. Season 2 we didn't have the depth to cope with EUFA and the league. Koeman had us the Moyes perennial 7th 1st season. Silva's highlights were first 5 months 1st season. We will get to 40 points easy enough but we are now depending on 10th to 7th having a worse last 15 than us.

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{Ed0333's Note - I hate to say this because giving Tris credit goes against everything I stand for but Ed’s 001 did say to me that Silva wont take Everton to the next level and he was right.

20 Jan 2019 14:20:40
Yep agree Ed mate, but hey you know the saying, Good things come to those who wait, lol.

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{Ed025's Note - im just sick of waiting mate.. :)

20 Jan 2019 11:32:04
Hi all, I'm new to this site and look forward to talking to all you fellow blues on here. I don't know bout you lot, but what is going on wiv our team again this season? Personally, I think Silvas days are numbered and I sensed that in Moshiris words last week at the club night held. But I think the blame here should right Farhads door, don't get me wrong, there's some really good things going on at the Monday our club thanks to Farhad and his investment (ie the new ground, money for transfers etc) - but where I think he's failed big time is in the area of manager recruitment - whoever is advising him is quite clearly the wrong person - Silva was never the right person, in my opinion he's a journey man and simply not up to the bigness of this job that is required. At the moment we look like Everton under Martinez and our position in the table reflects that fact, even big Sam had more points on the board than Silva at this stage, even with his dire style of play which really speaks of how poorly Silva is doing and underachieving with this current group of players that have cost us a lot of dosh. If things don't improve I'm quite sure Farhad will fire Silva at the end of the season but he has to learn lessons and recruit the right person this time as the previous lot have all been complete failures and are not helping us whatsoever in achieving our aims to be back in the top 4, in fact we're actually a laughing stock amongst other clubs and their supporters at the moment. I know this will cause a stir - but for me, Moyes was the best manager we had at Everton out of the last lot, and just in mind we were actually playing some good football towards the end of his reign and everything that was wrong about this current Everton team (ie commitment and attitude and discipline etc) was right under him because the players then knew and understood what was expected of them and what Everton meant to the supporters and players alike, and just remember all on a very remote budget with no where near the vast amounts we've squandered away in the last 5/ 6 years. So how about a long term plan here and bring Moyes back, give him a chance to complete the job he started and get us back to that top 4/ 6 level and then move on again after that with a top appointment with someone like a Simeone or a Ancelotti if it doesn't work out with him. all I'm saying is there has to be a definite plan going forward if we are to reach our ambitions as at the moment we are going nowhere but backwards and very mediocre mid table at best, if it was me - I would give out Moyes back in short term and give him that chance, he's the best we've had at this club in the last 20 years without a doubt in terms of strategy, commitment, attitude and consistency in league placings! '.

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20 Jan 2019 11:45:04
Read the post below Mate from Johnny that will answer all your questions.

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20 Jan 2019 11:57:32
. & b4 you all say it - yes he failed at Man Utd. but then so have Jose, Loui Van Gaal and others, so no shame there as the job was just too big for him . I look at players like Gomez in midfield - he is so lacking at the moment in fitness, technical and confidence - everything ironically that Moyes was good at instilling in players that had previously failed elsewhere - remember Arteta at Rangers? Look what Moyes turned him into at Everton, I feel he could do same here with Gomez as Silva quite clearly isn’t doing with him at the moment. remember Cahill from Millwall. just imagine what Moyes might do with Richarlison right now who is another so clearly lacking right now. & so I could go on.

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20 Jan 2019 14:21:10
Soli blue, actually Moyes did not fail at Man Utd, he just was not the person the Utd faithful or Board wanted, he was Fergy's choice. Look at Utd Manager stats and Moyes is up there on win/ loss stats quite high as it happens. It is true that some Managers are made to fit the Clubs they are at, for Moyes that was us. He was ambitious and so he should have been, it was the manner of his leaving that stuck in the craw. There is no way some would ever have him back, I am on the fence the same as some are on the fence about Silva, I just think my sitting position is more comfortable.

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Premier League Games Preview for 20 January 2019

20 Jan 2019 10:49:54
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Games Preview for 20 January 2019

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20 Jan 2019 09:40:20
i think a lot of our fans need a reality check, outside of england wer pretty much an unknown team compared to city liverpool united spurs arsenal and chelsea even Leicester are probably more known worldwide after winning the prem, all these fans who think bernard, gomes, mina dinge and richarlison aren't good enough signings need to realise that there the best we can get right now so people calling brands a failure are pathetic, did you think he was gunna wave a wand and clear out the 10/ 15 players we had who needed to go and instantly replace them with 100m pound players in every position?
we are wer we are because of previous years we are heading in the right direction its just a bumpy road full of speed bumps and potholes bit its the road up the table give brands time give silva time, no manager in the world was taking over and turning us round in six months and anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown.
Also betting against your own team is a disgrace.

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20 Jan 2019 09:55:14
Great post Johnny.

All those signings you mention are a definite improvement on what we had and all signings with great potential.

I know Gomes hasn’t looked his best last couple of weeks, but there’s no doubting the class he possesses and once he gets used to the demands of the Prem, he’ll be a star I’m sure.

Digne is the pick of the bunch for me. Brilliant signing.

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{Ed025's Note - we do have good players pierre but the fact is we are not playing like a team mate, something is wrong somewhere (and im buggered if i know what) and that has to change..

20 Jan 2019 10:50:38
Dead right Ed.

No denying that there’s something amiss at Everton. Hard to put a finger on what though.

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{Ed002's Note - The side is lop sided with all of these LW and some being played out of position. The striker situation is another issue - Tosun is not being given time or a run - and the club made a very, very significant mistake in not paying the £15M it would have taken to buy Sala.}

20 Jan 2019 11:16:50
I went to yesterdays game and am not one for kneejerk reactions. I also often hear about teams lacking fight and bottle. I usually don't agree with those statements. But in yesterdays performance, I saw players on the pitch who were used in a way that did not suit their style of play. As for fight, some were just not up for the fight and committment that Southampton put in. It got better with Tosun and Calvert-Lewin in particular, but not in the first 85 minutes. It is true that Gomez had a shocker. He just could not get time on the ball and misplaced just about every pass. Siggy was not much better. We huffed and puffed passing the ball across our back line and Coleman and Digne were just continually closed down and forced into errors. Eventually we would be forced into either giving it to Pickford for the hoof or even just hoof it forward to Richarlison in the air. And that is where it all fell apart. At first Richarlison was trying to challenge but didn't win a single header I don't think. Thereafter, he just pretended to challenge but pulled out of every one. It was a disgrace for such a talented player. I know he is not a center forwards, but every player in the team saw him doing it. Then Walcott came on and didn't even challenge (he never does anyway) . He actually ducked under some high balls deliberately. This is just not good enough and whilst I love the fact we have played some lovely football this season, the fact is when you play teams at the bottom, you have to match them in the tackle. in the ariel challenges and in the fight. and yesterday we just did not. We tried to play football and they stopped us with endeavour and effort. We did not match that!

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{Ed025's Note - very fair and balanced post that degsy..

20 Jan 2019 12:02:44
I agree with that Degs.

Exactly what Ed002 says about Tosun not being given a run in the side, or Calvert-Lewin, means that we have no aerial threat and the balls that are played up top are coming straight back because nobody can hold the ball up.

Teams have sussed out that of the press us high, the ball will be hoofed up top and they’ll mop that up all day and be straight back on us.

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20 Jan 2019 19:12:15
Mr Moshri takes advice from a chum as Ed says. What Ed doesn't say, I will, the best thing Mr Moshri can do is stop taking advice from his 'chum' and let his business head take over, he will save himself and the Club a fortune. Some very astute, experienced and knowledgable football people around the Leagues currently unemployed 'officially'. I would seek and take advice from the likes of Glen Hoddle (once he indicates he is well) now he would be worth a substantial consultants fee.

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20 Jan 2019 21:11:04
Problem is silver should not be here in the first place Johnny no matter which way you look at it in think it's only a matter of time.

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Review Of The Day 20th January 2019

20 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th January 2019

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19 Jan 2019 23:49:59
I thought I would pop over from the LFC page to ask who do you think has been the worst signing from the last transfer window. I'm going with jorginho, I'll be honest I've not watched Chelsea's full matches but from match of the day, I've not been impressed and the fact by him signing, kante is now playing out of position when he's the best midfielder in the world at his natural position I do not get the jorginho signing at all when they already had Janet amyotrophic else think of a bad summer signing do far I'm sure fulham have. a few serri is another.

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20 Jan 2019 09:20:40
i was saying that about jorginho last night mate think playing him over kante and forcing kante to be something he isn't is so pathetic.

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