Everton Banter Archive January 20 2017

20 Jan 2017 21:06:16
Hi Eds 3 targets gone mate Fonte to west ham, Berahino to Stoke, and Depay to Lyon, who's next

{Ed025's Note - i dont think fonte or berahino were ever serious targets AB, and im happy we never got depay so i dont think we are any worse off than when those 3 were available mate..

20 Jan 2017 22:53:21
Agree with Ed here. Can't for a second believe we would let a brilliant servant who is also club captain leave because he is getting on, to replace him with a different defender who is getting on. As for berahino. we all have a go when the press announce that rom has pushed for a move, so do we really want a player who has spent more time trying to force an exit from his club that playing for them? Personally I'd have liked depay on loan but fully understand the reasoning behind not stumping up the fee they wanted.

{Ed025's Note - great minds think alike cropper mate.. :)

20 Jan 2017 23:03:52
And fool's seldom differ Ed025! Personally not bothered we didn't get any of them.

21 Jan 2017 08:28:52
Nbtb and ed, I completely agree with you. The only thing is how relatively quickly the deals were done. Seemed only last week both fonte and berahino we going nowhere and now they signed.
I think our beloved club may possibly have a couple players lined up that we don't know about and may sign before the end of the window. Hopefully

{Ed025's Note - they have to be the right players geoff, its not a numbers game and quality is the key mate..

21 Jan 2017 08:43:33
Again I agree ed. Rk and sw will have developed a list of players they would like. It may be we don't don't get anyone of the right players aren't available. But we have a decent record of picking up bargains (Cahill, even Rom to certain extent) and young kids (stones, holgate, galloway, etc) to develop. So maybe they got some of them on their list.

{Ed025's Note - i would sooner that geoff than an average joe who will take up a squad number and be happy on the bench mate..

21 Jan 2017 08:52:16
Thats right ed. We need to improve the quality of player we have to move us forward.

21 Jan 2017 09:29:06
Berahino is a moody so and so. one you don't want in the dressing room. irrespective of talent. At least Lukaku doesn't go on strike (officially) although at times he looks like he is. Depay. I have no idea of him. He is that memorable. Yes I think I remember one game. oh no. that was someone else! Fonte? Wellour average age is up there already so he would fit in. for when we join the walking football league! Come on lads, get real or I will get even more sarcastic with my posts and start mentioning Osman again! 3 targets? . only if we are taking up shooting I would say!

20 Jan 2017 19:16:42
Bit disappointed about Gerry leaving even if it is on loan. A player with great potential that definitely wanted to play for us. If this is the billionaire overhaul taking effect then I suppose we have to swallow it. Who am I to argue with Ronald Koeman? I think he seems happy to alternate Kev and Azza at the moment. With Depay gone (happy about that) are we going to try to fill the gap do you think Ed? The gaffer said he won't settle for plan b targets after all.

{Ed025's Note - he knows the caibre of player he wants matt and that suits me just fine mate..

20 Jan 2017 19:52:14
Thanks Ed

{Ed025's Note - anytime matt..

20 Jan 2017 19:57:37
He has only gone on loan. It's really up to him now to convince RK that he has what it takes.

20 Jan 2017 21:44:19
Rk is passionate and a born winner. He wants to take everton to the elite and knows who he can or can't take with him. Let's all trust in him to build a team to achieve this.

20 Jan 2017 22:16:17
Mirallas is a much better player in my view. But like you say the manager lives and dies by his decisions.

20 Jan 2017 23:01:21
Gerry's attitude is just not right and he feels he should be the starman because he came through at Barca.
His attitude was questioned at Sevilla, he was allowed to leave Barcelona and now RK has had enough. Surely it is a problem with him as a person not as a player, although his fitness is woeful.
I don't believe we will see him in a blue shirt again and I for one won't really miss him.

21 Jan 2017 11:18:49
Gerri has had two different managers at our club, he has played under another one at Sevilla and another at Barca, albeit in the second string. Everyone of them, bar RM, have let the lad go. The only one that had any faith in him was Roberto but we all know how over enthusiastic that man could be, even with the most average players. Everything was 'phenomenal' no matter how bad.
Emery questioned the lads desire and attitude. Whoever ran the Barcelona second team wasn't bothered about selling him. To be fair, he had a few world class players to usurp in the first team and, on current form, he is a million miles away from joining that bracket. RK gave him a chance at the start of this season but he rarely features now.
Gerri may have talent, we can all testify to that, but he is stagnating now. His fitness levels leave a lot to be desired at this level and he has a petulant streak when things don't seem to go in his favour. His reluctance to track back hasn't exactly endeared him to RK. In fact, I don't think he has done too much for us since he signed permanently, his better games came in his first spell. I wouldn't be too bothered if he was sacrificed to free up a squad place and wages, he just isn't doing enough consistently to warrant selection for the first team.

{Ed025's Note - spot on that spud mate..

21 Jan 2017 11:36:21
Cheers ed. I hope he goes on to prove the doubters, including myself, wrong. Not many are good enough to come through the Barcelona academy so he clearly has the ability, he just doesn't channel it in the correct way. Looking at his record for Spain U21's is a double edged sword. On one hand he is the record holder for both appearances and goals, no mean feat when you consider some of the Spanish talent that has come through in the last twenty or thirty years. These stats, however impressive, mask over the fact that he has not pushed on and forced his way into the senior squad. Maybe, looking at that, this is where his problems lie. He is exceptional in the lower age groups but doesn't transfer that when up against senior pro's. He needs to up his game but only minutes on the pitch will show us if he can do it so a loan move makes sense for all involved. I'd rather he be loaned to an English club, either prem or championship, to gauge whether he will ever make it in our country.

{Ed025's Note - it cant have been easy for him though spud, coming to a new country with a different culture and leaving his family and friends, but im afraid thats the life of a professional footballer and as we all know the rewards are massive, but its about adapting and fitting in and im afraid gerri has just not cut the mustard mate, but as you say there is still time for him but he needs to adapt a lot better mate..

21 Jan 2017 13:15:22
Totally agree ed, he's still relatively a young lad and has time on his side to hit the heights that have been expected of him. But the penny has to drop some time soon and he needs to knuckle down and improve his game, he is not the finished article as yet but his attitude needs to reflect that. Judging him on his loan spell, he had some great games and showed us flashes of his skill and talent. He needs to get back to that level.
It just goes to show that talent isn't everything in the football world, a strong mentality is also necessary to make it at the top. Let's hope he can produce more as a team player, even better if he does that for us.

{Ed025's Note - amen to that spud mate..