Everton Banter Archive August 20 2015

 

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20 Aug 2015 23:14:04
Come on Ed. latest rumour news from your end

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{Ed003's Note - Our Sainsbury's is being bought by IKEA but it's purely speculation.}

20 Aug 2015 23:45:46
Brilliant.

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{Ed003's Note - If you like IKEA it is ;) }

21 Aug 2015 00:15:36
Not really.hate sainsburys

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{Ed003's Note - not my favourite either but the mexicana cheese is delightful from there.}

20 Aug 2015 22:09:18
Nzogbia up for grabs again. pheeewwww what a lucky miss he was and we all wanted him remember!!

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20 Aug 2015 22:03:59
Just hope to God Yamalamadingdong is better than Billy after all this!!

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{Ed025's Note - love it howie..

20 Aug 2015 22:37:37
i liked billy we played him in wrong postion

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20 Aug 2015 22:43:05
Ahhhhhh billy. He was technically very gifted. I remember watching him in Europa match at Goodison he played some unbelievable passes. Scored a couple of great goals but just wasn't cut out for English football. That's the worry with any signing though isn't it? I remember wetting my pants when we signed Ibrahima Bakayoko the greatest champ manager player of all time. How did he when out

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{Ed003's Note - tonton zola moukoko was the best champ manager player :) }

20 Aug 2015 23:36:15
Djibril Cisse was the man to have in my day. True world beater in real life ;-)

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{Ed003's Note - haha you should take this convo to the video games page I'm sure many more could share their memories as well.}

20 Aug 2015 23:58:06
We did play Billy in the wrong position.
That was playing him on the pitch when he should've been in the stands, and just to make matters worse we asked him to run, chase back and tackle, after which Billy looked so confused that he threw his toys out of the pram!

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21 Aug 2015 08:09:08
Billy had a great left peg apart from that he was awful! Makes mcgeedy look like messy! Nah I think I might be exaggerating a bit there like but u get my point

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21 Aug 2015 09:02:30
He did throw toys out of his pram

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21 Aug 2015 09:23:00
Unfortunately for Billy he was bought when DM wanted workhorses. He would be an ideal 10 in RM's system. its just a mater of wrong time wrong place.

On the cm front I would go with Mark Kerr as the overall best player, he could play consistently at any level as a MF in all formations from the start of the game to his retirement. TMZ required development for a couple of seasons and a formation that suited his style of play.

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21 Aug 2015 10:26:53
I remember an interview with Billy, he said that playing in England was like being in a washing machine, loved it. Never forget that goal against Utd though

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20 Aug 2015 21:43:27
Before you all scream you said we were getting that Portuguese manager you didn't know anything, firstly I put that on here before any news reports did and they didn't copy me they know like I know he was the first manager bk met after Moyes left and they had a meeting and for whatever reason it was not done.
I have explained several times that a family friend of mine is a major shareholder of the club, above 15%. He tells me nothing but if he doesn't deny things I take it as a yes.
Again don't shoot messenger this is nothing that isn't already reported but since it was reported I called my contact he told me to F off and then when I pressed him told me 2 deals have been sanctioned and the amounts have been signed off by all board members but the amount and who were not disclosed
Now surely with the press reports that must be yarmelenko and the mori guy. I said Bobby promised 3 to which I recieved the response I have not been asked to sign off on a third. I hope that means yet but would be happy with those 2

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20 Aug 2015 22:34:36
Cheers svenny keep up the good work :-)

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21 Aug 2015 01:02:35
Hope your right svenny

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20 Aug 2015 21:42:35
Come on Bill get Yarmolenko in! Dig deep! Get the Chrid Long money, Shane Duffy money and Ibou Touray money out there! (This was for purely satirical purposes, I am not having a go, just a laugh!).

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20 Aug 2015 21:56:55
Come on billy get your money out

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20 Aug 2015 22:28:59
You forgot the Bidwell money Swan!

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20 Aug 2015 20:50:00
I'm seeing different things on different sites, hope someone here knows, official site won't load for me. Is Bryan's contract up at the end of this season or next season?. Be gutted if he leaves but I could inderstand why, especially if he is injured again. Hopefully he can earn a new deal, Kone's last chance too I think.

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{Ed025's Note - his contract is up next june mate..

20 Aug 2015 21:42:58
Cheers ed.

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20 Aug 2015 20:31:55
I'm 34, I have a feeling Swan is a lot younger. No problem Ed from now on I'll behave.

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{Ed025's Note - good to hear mate..

20 Aug 2015 20:54:16
Me too, no hard feelings mate, I'm a petulant child at times.

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{Ed025's Note - get a room.. :)

21 Aug 2015 07:40:56
For the record NBTB, I didn't think Swan was having a dig at you. To be fair to the lad, he had a few weeks away from the site and he has come back with a great attitude. Swan and me have had our run ins also but, since he's been back, his posts have been great reads. Long may it continue I say :)

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20 Aug 2015 20:24:28
Fair enough Ed, it was Swan that started at me I was just finishing it. Tell him not to start at me again and I won't have to finish it again.

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{Ed025's Note - im not getting into who,s to blame NBTB, lets just act like grown ups hey mate..

20 Aug 2015 19:22:28
If we sold stones 40million (I don't want this to happen) and signed Yarmolenko 10-15 mil (spelling) Mori 6 mill and Van Dyke (8-10) despite not spending all the money available would we agree it has been a good window? Personally I would like us to bring in a natural number 10 and spend the lot (stones cash +some) but the above is what I think will happen!

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20 Aug 2015 19:42:12
So let me get this right. You want to sell Stones a player with massive potential and proven in the Prem league. For a defender you've never heard of, a defender who plays for the best team in the scots league (so no competition), and a winger (cause we're short of them). Mmmm let me think.

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20 Aug 2015 20:13:34
I agree Woburnblue. Rather keep Stones although I'd like to take the other 2 if we could.

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20 Aug 2015 20:46:40
While I do think we need a number 10, Centre Back as cover and a Striker, not at the cost of Stones, even for all 3, we must keep him no matter what imo.

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{Ed025's Note - it would be a great show of intent if we could swan..

20 Aug 2015 20:54:54
I agree Swan keep Stones at all costs. If we can get Yarmolenko and Van Dyke as well all the better.

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20 Aug 2015 21:01:43
I agree with you all and as stated I don't want us to sell Stones, I was just asking the question as I've been debating it all day. Not selling him and bringing 3 in would be ideal, I just hope we don't cave in.

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20 Aug 2015 21:39:26
he did not say he wanted to sell, just asked IF we did, and to answer your question toffeehead, I don't know about the argintine lad, van is ok but yarmolenko is class, so I would be in 2 minds as none of above are proven in prem, while I know yarmolenko is very very good and would be superb addition, judging on last season, defense was appalling so for me IF we sold stones, it would depend on if van or the argi hit ground running, if the did and yarmo if he signed then I would prob be happy, I remember rooney going and like most fans I felt we were doomed, then moyes signed m.bent to replace him to my and most fans horror, as a result we finished 4th, my point is this one man dnt make a team, especially a young boy, ( I don't want him to go and personally would refuse £50 as in 2-3 yrs I think barca real an so on will be courting him) he is not the be all and end all of everton fc

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20 Aug 2015 23:28:52
We probably still owe for lukaku therell be very little money left to buy 1 player

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20 Aug 2015 23:37:42
And sorry forgot Barnsley s cut

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21 Aug 2015 00:01:49
Toffee head don't debate all day you'll go blind. At least I think that's what my mum said?

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20 Aug 2015 18:38:39
Been keeping an eye on Futbol Ukraine Twitter pages the last few days and there is loads of talk about the Yarmolonko to Everton. The latest is well respected Ukrainian sports journalist Artem Frankov has said that Kiev eyes are splitting that there are a few offers on the table for Yarmolonko and any deal involving Everton is far from been completed, I think we should just pull out now and move on if we have that amount of money to spend on one player I'm sure we will find a decent player somewhere.

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20 Aug 2015 18:12:14
Thought I would post about the media and their hatred towards Everton. I don't know what it is, most fans don't have a problem with us as a club. Bar the rivalries with Liverpool and Utd and the growing rivalry with Chelsea over Stones, most clubs and their fans don't have a problem with us. The media love selling our players, according to the papers, McCarthy, Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku, Baines, Stones and Coleman should not be with us right now. McCarthy was unhappy with no contract and desperate to sign for Tottenham in a deal that could he completed in the next few weeks. That was from the Daily Fail. Barkley was set to join City for 40m, you all know this one so I won't go in to too much detail. Mirallas wanted Champions League Football and wanted to join West Ham for 6m according to the Fail. Lukaku was off to Wolfsburg for 30m according to the Reflection, that was from January 2015. Baines had signed a 5 year deal at United precisely 13 hours before signing a new deal with us, that was shortly after Martinez had joined and from the Reflection. Stones was set to join Chelsea in 48 hours according to the Fail, that was mid July. Coleman to Utd was a done deal for 15m according to the Reflection, this was a week before Coleman to Arsenal was a done deal according to the same paper. Matt Law of whatever paper he writes for, said Everton set price of Stones at 25m, that was rejected, then according to him it was set to whatever Chelsea's second bid was, that was rejected. Then he said we want 30m for Stones, that was rejected, you would think after 3 times he would give up but nope, now we want 35m for him. Also, I don't know how a post match analysis of Celtic vs Malmo can lead to a discussion on Stones to Chelsea. Everton vs Southampton, 2 minute talk about the match and about 10 minutes about John Stones. MOTD, Stones to Chelsea. Paul Merson said Stones would learn more from 10 games a season at Chelsea then 40 a season at Everton. Now, not only is Paul Merson a complete person and a waste of space, he is one of the worst pundits I have ever heard. What do you expect from someone who wasted his money and life on booze. Arry Redknapp said Stones should stay then a day later said we are holding him back. Hodgson said Stones to Chelsea would be better for Stones. Alan Shearer said Stones should leave for the good of his career which is funny because Shearer had that opportunity himself and didn't take it, shown no regret, hypocritical git. The only one with any sense is Carragher, not because it suits us, but because it makes sense. His value will increase so why cash in now and he will play regularly here, he won't at Chelsea. He has role models here, he has none at Chelsea. Even Sky, after our Under 21s made a great comeback from 3-0 down to 3-3, it took them 10 minutes to do a terrible article saying Holgate was awful all game and made a disastrous debut. Clearly didn't watch the game. It took them 2 hours to do an article about the actual game, well done. I don't get it, why do they want to sell all our players, why do they want to have sly digs at us whenever possible. They seriously underestimate us. It's not only irritating as we have to put up with it every single day, it is beyond depressing seeing their clear bias against us. It is sweet as they fail every single time. The Fail and Reflection in particular our the main papers that really don't like us. I don't get it, what have we done that means we should be so hated?.

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{Ed025's Note - really good read that swan..well done mate..

20 Aug 2015 19:29:03
Great read that, Swan. Agree 100% mate, does seem like they have it in for us. That point about Celtic v Malmo can't be real, can it?

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20 Aug 2015 19:38:43
Cracking post that Swan,spot on mate.

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20 Aug 2015 20:26:41
''Paul Merson said Stones would learn more from 10 games a season at Chelsea then 40 a season at Everton. ''

when it boils down to the nitty gritty these mug pundits don't know their ar$es from their elbows

They swap and change their half baked opinions from one week to another
his master (Rednapp) whistles and he barks and rolls on his back like a well trained scamp :(

Sorry for the rant fellas but I'm getting sick and tired with the media bull .

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{Ed025's Note - they are paid to say things that will get a reaction 247, i take no notice mate..

20 Aug 2015 20:48:11
Great post and great read Swan.
I don't buy or read newspapers as the only thing true and worth reading in them is the TV guide. We should set up an Everton Media Done Deals page and I could almost guarantee that they will get no more than 1% right. Only until I see one of our players taking a medical at another club will I believe they are leaving.

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20 Aug 2015 22:17:15
good post swan I think all the media crap is mainly to do with the quality of our squad which is good we have done well not to lose any and getting some to sign again personally I don't think stones will go or even want to go right now would you swap jags for terry now or cahill I wouldn't so imo jags is the man to learn from big test this weekend but I think we might just pull it off :)

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20 Aug 2015 22:22:48
sly sports swan, they buy right to games ie city manu chelski etc, so if a player these teams want, there staff are encouraged to comment on why its best for such player to join them, especially if its a team like us, who have the potential to ruin the top teams, let's be honest who in the right mind would tell a young boy learning his trade and developing well at his club to move to chelski or city to sit on bench, we see it so often, young talent go to these teams and never be seen for years, these idiots get paid to spk c%^p mate

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20 Aug 2015 22:33:27
Wouldn't swap Jags for anyone mate, great role model and class player. Perfect for Stones to learn from.

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21 Aug 2015 09:12:09
I quite like Merson to be fair, usually seems to have a soft spot for us but that comment is utter tripe

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20 Aug 2015 16:08:43
I'm sure Sid can enlighten us with the details but I'm sure there are some quite strict rules regarding work permits for non-EU players. Mori has 1 international cap. Surely this does not qualify. I seem to remember a similar story last year.

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20 Aug 2015 17:18:09
It wouldn't be a surprise if he had Italian ancestry - as many Argentinians do - and could qualify for an Italian passport and be eligible to play in England under European Union rules.

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20 Aug 2015 17:31:04
He has an Italian passport apparently.

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20 Aug 2015 17:37:47
I bought the same thing up, can't see it happening I feel the newspapers are stringing us a line mate

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20 Aug 2015 15:59:28
It's good to see that Galloway and Browning are now part of RM's first-team squad, but I wonder who will be the next youngsters to merit a place in that squad. I can imagine Ledson eventually taking Barry's place and Dowell taking Pienaar's (or maybe Osman's) place. Holgate will also come through as should Henen. What do other posters reckon?

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20 Aug 2015 17:32:49
Gethin Jones as back up for Coleman and Courtney Duffus as another strike option in a year or two.

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20 Aug 2015 19:22:03
ive been crying out to see Steven Kinsella given a first team chance for a while now, when we signed the lad he was raved about as a future star and at 17 or 18 he should be given a first team shot

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21 Aug 2015 09:13:31
Think of all the players named as future stars who fail, the pressure put on some of these young lads before they've even kicked a ball in the first team is crazy

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20 Aug 2015 15:53:31
I believe stones will be sold soon, rannochia and mori to be brought in and yarmelenko too which I am think would be brilliant business

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20 Aug 2015 17:25:59
It will be good business if we just bought those players and kept Stones. It looks like that is within our summer budget.

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20 Aug 2015 17:33:42
I agree that Yarmolenko would be brilliant business but any window were Stones is sold and not replaced appropriately is a terrible window imo.

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20 Aug 2015 15:37:43
It's getting that bad now waiting for some transfer news that I'm getting excited when another team makes a signing think I'm losing the plot

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20 Aug 2015 15:16:17
Something to look forward to for those interested.

Latest Everton accounts are due for release early October, once signed off.

And.an actual AGM arranged for possibly early November.

Ooh, the excitement.can`t wait.

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20 Aug 2015 15:11:52
Another day, another dollar.or not in the case of Everton football club anyway.oh boy - how much longer do we have to wait for a signing, this is getting embarrassing now. it gets me how Chelski can just steal in at the eleventh hour & wrap up a £20 million deal for Pedro in 2 days & we are still waiting for news.I've been told the Yarmalenko deal has hit a snag with his wage demands - why am I not surprised? You know I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't now sign anyone b4 the end of the transfer window.

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20 Aug 2015 15:35:44
Had a feeling he would be a pain with wages as they are paid nowhere near as much as our Epl players and can guarantee his agent is trying to fleece us out of every penny.

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20 Aug 2015 15:36:55
I'd like him at the club but who told you about the wage demands how do we even know he's a possibility, poeple go mad about every signing other teams make whether there good or not

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20 Aug 2015 15:51:17
I'd be surprised if Chelsea hadn't scouted Pedro for some time and had spoken with his representatives long before. Every club is surely looking at players all the time and must have dossiers on hundreds of them so that they can take things further when needed. I accept that once their interest became serious things appear to have moved quickly, but the idea that any transfer happens out of the blue just doesn't seem probable. It also helps to have plenty of money and not have to penny-pinch on every bit of expenditure, but Everton are not able (and certainly not willing) to just splash the cash. Frustrating isn't it? ;-)

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{Ed001's Note - Ed002 mentioned on one of the sites months ago that Pedro was an option for Chelsea. It was more a case of him not being first choice that it only happened now.}

20 Aug 2015 15:58:19
Apparently the wages are sorted it's the dynamo chairman wanting more money that's the snag Yarmalenko wants to join just need to sort fee out.

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20 Aug 2015 16:21:06
Biggest giveaway Mike is that Martinez days he wants him.

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20 Aug 2015 16:57:14
Ed001: Kudos to Ed002 for having mentioned this a while ago. I don't read all of the sites, so didn't see it at the time. There must be loads of transfers that happen where the player involved isn't necessarily the first, second, or even lower preference of a club. I bet that's especially the case as deadline-day approaches!

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20 Aug 2015 13:05:47
Don't be fooled by our academy teams yes we produce some good players better than most but there is not a production line like were led to believe, when you look at stones and Barkley who are products from u21 I know stones was not ours but he spent 2 years with them but you look at there quality and then you saw what was there yesterday's u21 match its a massive gap in quality, holgate although got caught out for pen looks good and very composed like stones, but there are only a few that I think stand a chance holgate henan, we all thought we would be seeing Green but he left and that was a big investment, I wonder what made us thought he was not going to make it,

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20 Aug 2015 15:10:43
Truebluemetz who said anything foolish about the academy teams? See my response to the posts down below to yours and Cowpats comments. I don't really have much more to say other than David Moyes signed Stones the January before Martinez came and Martinez used him repeatedly towards the end of that season so he spent a little along with a year in the U21's not 2. Everton still benefiting from the Moyes era 2 years after he left!

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20 Aug 2015 15:16:15
That's just one crop of players though who knows what's going on down the age groups there's no doubt we have the best youth policy in the premier league at the moment for me

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20 Aug 2015 16:02:17
I'm confused, of course we are benefiting from the Moyes era. I'm not having a go mate and I'm not even sure what it is you are saying tbh. Is this another one of those things where because Martinez didn't sell EVERY player from the first team down to the under 5s that were here during the Moyes era that Martinez is not allowed any credit?. If you are not still harping on about Moyes then apologies. I just don't know what it will take for Martinez to get a little bit of credit. 1st season? Nothing to do with Martinez's signings it was all Moyes' defence (why did we never do so well under Moyes?). 2nd season? All Martinez's fault, snuffed out the Moyes mentally in the Defenders. Stones? Moyes bought him so he should take full credit for how he has developed, Martinez did nothing, Moyes loosened the top, Martinez just got it off. Barkley? Was here under Moyes, Garbutt? Moyes got him, Naismith? Moyes. I'm not exactly Martinez's biggest fan nor am I having a go at anyone but hopefully someone who loved Moyes (for whatever reason) can explain why it seems anything bad under Martinez is Martinez and anything good is Moyes. Martinez certainly has developed Stones, Barkley and Garbutt, he's got the best out of Naisy. Again, NBTB, I'm not having a pop, just hoping for some answers from someone who is all against Martinez (again, not saying you are) and all for Moyes as Christ reborn (again, not saying you are). Both deserve credit when credit is due and both deserve stick when it's due, I just don't think Moyes should take credit for 99% of the good things Martinez has done and take no blame for other things like not getting our young players game time and halting their development.

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20 Aug 2015 17:40:35
O beautiful Swan I was wondering when you'd bite at me, can't believe it took this long! You have me confused now. Please quote me on my previous comments where I said anything negative about Martinez? The only remotely negative thing I said about him was that I'm not convinced with him and need at least this season to weigh up my mind on him. Far too quick to judge a lot of people are. I actually said a lot of positive things about Martinez and he's very good work with the younger kids. I even backed him as regards to the transfer market. I think he's dead right not to be buying players left right and centre. Everton haven't the money and I said before on my posts it seems Martinez has as good an approach as any by holding onto the players we have, younger players for the 'future' coming through and only spending when he is sure it will improve the team. Yesi did say keep the players we have and I actually do compliment Martinez on doing that. Why not? He's here 2 years and who has he sold? As I said only way Everton will compete at the top is by doing what I said. We haven't the money like Man city or Chelsea so enlighten me what other approach should be taken. Well after all that which I stated before when did I say negative things about Martinez? As for Moyes its a simple fact he was everything Everton needed. Although if he had to hold onto some of his players (which he kind of couldn't because they asked for a transfer) Everton might have done better. Simple fact I stated we are still benefiting from Moyes. Nothing to do with Martinez. Don't be reading any more than is between the lines Swan.

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20 Aug 2015 17:45:34
Swan, just out of curiosity were you around when Moyes took over 13 years ago?

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20 Aug 2015 18:20:09
I didn't even bother reading all that mate, I'm not here to argue as I stated multiple times in my post, I am not biting at all I'm just asking questions to people who really love Moyes. I stated numerous times I was not talking about you, if you took offence well you shouldn't as I did nothing to offend you I was just asking questions in general, I would of been better starting a new thread but whatever. If you are purposely posting just to get a reaction out of me, it doesn't work anymore. I was not talking about you as I stated many times, I did not twist your words or put words in your mouth, I couldn't of done because I was not talking to you, it was a general few questions that I included your Username as a benchmark for anyone else who may answer but you clearly wanted me to react and have been waiting for me to do so which I didn't notice until you mentioned it, none of your posts have had any impact on me in the least mate as to be honest I haven't been reading the majority of them. I'm not here to argue, it was some general questions. Don't bother trying to start just to get a reaction.

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20 Aug 2015 19:55:01
Seriously Swan? You don't want to argue? Seems like you don't want to argue when your wrong. You didn't even read my response yet wrote twice as long a comment yourself up above. Why did you respond when you didn't even read my post? You never even answered my small post asking were you around when Moyes took over? Let me guess your not going to read this one either. None of your posts had impact on me either Swan. Your far too negative and think your always right. Always have plenty of information on different players and so on backed up by nothing. O by the way I only used your username as a benchmark for 'other' people I'm not having a crack at you. Or maybe I'm just looking for a reaction. Moyes 2002 what age were ya?

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{Ed025's Note - look guys we have to stop this personal crap!, you and swan have different opinions and thats healthy, but you have to stop directing posts at each other instead of the whole forum, i consider myself fair and put up with quite a lot on here, but other eds are not so forgiving and will just delete posts like these which can if not tempered result in a ban...so come on fellas be civil..

20 Aug 2015 12:15:21
Regarding the speculation about Dante - and it is just media speculation whatever kernel of truth there might be to it - well I'm just a typically opinionated fan with no experience of actually playing, let alone coaching, at a professional level AND I have to support anyone who plays for the club (as long as they try their best), but I've never thought highly of the player in question and I fear that our defensive play would be like a scene from "Dante's Inferno" if he joined us. I'd happily be proved wrong, but I fear there'll be a wailing and a gnashing of teeth if we went from the sublime (Stones) to the ridiculous ;-)

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20 Aug 2015 11:35:44
Getting me down now all this rubbish about who we are supposedly signing! Other clubs get the job dome why can't we? It's a joke and if we are not careful these so called targets be off somewhere else!

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{Ed025's Note - spare a thought for me wrighty...i get it in the neck daily mate.. :)

20 Aug 2015 11:53:40
Sure it's frustrating, but plenty of other clubs have spurious stories in the media about transfers.
Besides, how many of the posters have any real idea about what's involved in bringing a transfer to fruition. A club like ours - no Champions League football, very tight finances (whatever some fans may think!), not as glamorous internationally as other clubs who've been successful during the last couple of decades of worldwide 24/7 live football, and not based in apparently more attractive (i.e. London) locations - surely has to work harder to bring in better players. Before anyone shouts about Shaqiri and Stoke, I ask the question: why were some of Europe's elite clubs happy to get shot him and how much (wages, bonuses, signing-on fee, agents fees, etc.) did Stoke have to fork out? As for Payet - and others - they clearly preferred London.
At the end of the season, I'll willingly eat humble pie about the players we could have but didn't get, but for now they're unproven in the Premier League.

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20 Aug 2015 12:34:26
Man Up Ed, you love it really 😄

I recon we'll sign the 3 they said and maybe a cheeky 4th. All for a grand total of. Sorry it's "undisclosed"

Prob not a striker now though as we've got LUKONE!!

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{Ed025's Note - i do need to man up ace your right.. :)

20 Aug 2015 12:55:36
Patience, transfer window not shut yet. Don't think Everton can afford to splash money. Moyes was slow at signing players and look where he brought us from bottom of the league to challenging for Europe. Why? Because he made some very shrewd signings. If window shuts and we have no one I agree it would be disappointing but just because everyone else is signing plenty of players doesn't necessarily mean that's the best approach for Everton. Transfer window is not shut till the fat lady sings. P.S keep the chin up!

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20 Aug 2015 10:28:33
If all we are after is a back up defender for Stones and Jags, would nobody take a punt on Vlaar? experienced in the prem he's on a free transfer, granted his fitness is an issue but maybe a pay to play contract offer. He wouldn't be my first choice but if we are so desperate for experienced cover he might be a useful addition

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20 Aug 2015 12:26:31
M1k were you reading my posts below this morning? I said exactly what you said earlier this morning. Vlaar experience with abundance. Anyone with anything to say read my comments below because I see people saying what I've already said below again. Would be all for the Celtic man but we have enough young up and coming CB. No point making these signings of the future if they are not going to get a chance. We have 2 under 20 coming through plus Stones in that position. I certainly wouldn't look for another young CB. Not under say 24. Celtic man or Vlaar for me. Galloway and co will be looking for their opportunity's over the coming seasons. No point having them there if if they don't get the opportunity. They deserve it in my eyes

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20 Aug 2015 13:22:59
I didn't see it no, just reading about all this Dante nonsense made me think Vlaar is on a free and we only want a CB for cover he seems a viable option and would make sense to go for him in my opinion

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20 Aug 2015 13:56:31
I think its clear I agree!

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20 Aug 2015 16:05:09
now without having a go at the lad as I don't rate him an seemingly neither do a lot of Villa fans as they were made up he left. Wages, the fact we would be paying his wages and he is unable to play until November. Not to mention the fact we would be paying all this money just for him to be third choice? If this Ramiro Funes deal goes through we will be sorted anyway. No to Vlaar for me.

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20 Aug 2015 09:59:59
could we please please please sign somebody half decent soon

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20 Aug 2015 09:31:29
Richard Kenyon? Heard of him? Me neither! I wanted to see if our club had someone responsible for communications. Well turns out this guy is the director of marketing and communication for everton football club. That's right, his main purpose and everyday full time job is to communicate what is happening at the club and to make sure the brand is portrayed correctly whilst also expanding the reach of the brand and the club.
I can't believe someone works full time on this. No statement on Gibson, outrageous. No statements by the club on stadium issues. No statement by the club about what direction we want to take. What is the brand? What is the club? Nobody knows which is why fans are now divided, banners are being flown and the overall feel of the club is doom and gloom.
Earn your salt mr Kenyon, communicate with us.

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20 Aug 2015 11:19:47
hi Svenny

I wrote to him last week, war and peace lol, And he had the good grace to reply to my email. I went on our site and email Elstone on the email provided.

give it a try

he said that they will start talking to the fans etc

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20 Aug 2015 11:33:29
DID YOU NOT NO WERE RUN BY THE THREE WISE MONKEYS COYB

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20 Aug 2015 09:09:03
Hi I was just wondering who watched under 21 last night and stood out for you mine were liam walsh holgate after he gave peno away pennigton who I rate highly needs loan to championship now. Gethin jones looked better in second half when he went to wing back.

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20 Aug 2015 11:37:32
Holgate was good - apart from conceding the penalty of course!
Jones did look good - especially as a wing-back in the second half.
Robinson also looked good as a second-half wing-back
Pennington was solid.
Williams did OK in central midfield. Walsh was busy in central midfield, but he lost the ball for one of the conceded goals.
Davies (second-half substitute) was cautioned - could have seen red - but that aggression is clearly part of his game.
McAleny did a few good things, but I thought he had a quiet game, especially in the first half.
Byrne worked his socks off across the front-line.
To me, it was clear that players who've already played competitive football (Championship, League 1, etc.) either on loan or at previous club were a cut above the others.
Overall, in the first-half we were mainly (although not completely) neat and tidy albeit disappointingly ineffective going forward and made crucial mistakes for all three conceded goals.
In the second-half, I thought the change in formation worked well, we were much brighter, and - best of all in many respects - we showed great character and determination.
I'm not sure how many of these players will become Premier League regulars with Everton, but most of them looked like they could make a living in the sport. Whether we will have a "golden generation" based on these players is a moot point imho, but the potential is there. Young (21-ish) players like Lukaku, Barkley, Stones, Galloway, Browning are already in the first-team squad - and other slightly older players like McCarthy, Garbutt, Besic, etc., etc. are also in place - so it'd seem to be just a case of finding suitable successors to the over-30 brigade like Osman, Pienaar, Barry, etc.
A few good experienced incoming transfers and RM might just assemble a team/squad that could - maybe, hopefully, enticingly - deliver something :-)

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{Ed025's Note - good assessment there sid..cheers..

20 Aug 2015 12:15:33
i agree with you

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20 Aug 2015 12:58:37
Only 1 or 2 will play in prem others won't be good enough it was there to see, most of these players will be league 1 championship at best

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20 Aug 2015 15:05:01
I agree 100% Cowpat Sid 2. Looks like your looking at the overall picture in a very sensible and reality sort way. We haven't big amounts of money to spend so we look at other ways to improve. I know where you are coming from. Truebluemetz79 don't think Cowpat means they are all going to make it. If one or 2 came from U21's every year combined with what we have and what we buy in it would be brilliant business. A solid way to compete with those at the very top. I think that's more or less the point Cowpat is making rather than they are all going to make it. I'm going to reply to the top message you put on truebluemetz79

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20 Aug 2015 08:21:41
Ron Vlaar?

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20 Aug 2015 07:59:03
For me I'd sign Ron Vlaar as soon as possible. I know he's injured until the new year but he's a quality player. We need at least 1 centre back. He could be a back up in case whoever Martinez signs doesn't work out. He is proven in the premiership and is a proven international also not like some of CB Everton have been linked to, i.e. the young Argentinian that not many know much of. He would be no harm having plenty of competition in that area. Would spend millions getting as good a player on the market and he's a free agent. He comes across as the type of player who will be raring to go when he gets back from injury. I know Everton have enough problems with injuries. I think he's worth the punt on a 2 year contract at least. We wouldn't have much to loose really. If it works out great, if it doesn't it's not like we lost a player.

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20 Aug 2015 09:19:40
My only problem with that is free agents tend to ask for a high signing on fee, high wages or both. If it makes economic sense to get him, then I'd be made up. If not, I'd rather pay the transfer fee on a younger player.

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20 Aug 2015 09:23:59
He out for four months plus a lot of villa fans said he has been terrible since world cup and relived that he has gone so no

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20 Aug 2015 10:44:33
It would have to make economic sense, that's the point. He wouldn't come for nothing but obviously less than a contracted player. I said I know he is injured. Maybe he was terrible because of injury. I wouldn't put my hopes on him but love to have him waiting in the wings to use whenever needed

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20 Aug 2015 01:49:39
Its my bday 2day can somebody somewhere please give me something 100% concrete about a blue signing

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20 Aug 2015 04:19:37
Happy Birthday!

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20 Aug 2015 04:21:42
It's actually my Birthday tomorrow mate, reckon Stones will go, Lukaku gets injured and McGeady signs a new 6 year contract!.

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20 Aug 2015 10:05:59
Swan
I love your continual optimism, with your outlook on the blues you will wake
up tomorrow to find out you missed your birthday all together.
wellzee

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20 Aug 2015 10:26:06
Nah Swan its my birthday tomorrow too and I'm irish so going with the 'luck of the irish' I say let's have signing tomorrow - a good one! No-one to leave.

PS Happy birthday for tomorrow mate

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20 Aug 2015 00:11:53
Right, I don't believe anything I see on Twitter, however, Yarmolenko tweeted 'ForEver' and removed it about 2 minutes later. I know it's not fake as I follow him and fell off my bed and knocked my cuppa over and it has burnt my arm, wonderful. What did his Tweet mean? Probably nothing, probably means he will forever play in Ukraine but why the 'ever' starting in caps. What a tease! That sounded bad, still, it's really got me hyped, imo he still won't come but this Tweet certainly hasn't helped my sureness on that. Probably nothing, just passing it along, it's not fake and has not been edited. Take it how you want.

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20 Aug 2015 00:56:32
Oh the irony oh the irony. I said on the rumours page 'people still get fooled by fake Twitter accounts? Bloody hell'. Right, I followed him after we were linked a few days ago and the Tweet popped up. The Tweet was legit but the account, well, I should of done my research and had a look to see if he had made any comment about Twitter, he has and said he does not have it. Now while I hide away my embarrassment, go easy lads.

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20 Aug 2015 00:59:19
Well if was want that he was staying I'm sure he would have left it up I heard the deal will be announced tomorrow but like you its with a pinch of salt so we will just have to wait and see.

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19 Aug 2015 23:57:54
On another positive note, the Wigan fans absolutely adore Cisco Junior and want him to stay til the end of the year. Glad to see him doing well, no wonder what will happen with him in the future, but good to see him playing well.

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