Everton Banter Archive March 19 2017

 

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19 Mar 2017 20:20:54
Hi Ed aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh international break this weekend, just when we had the chance to make it three wins in a row, ah well have to wait till the week after to make it three cheers mate, GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed002's Note - The International break would be next weekend. This weekend is here and now, and a happening time with kids dancing the Watusi and having a good time.}

19 Mar 2017 21:11:37
Hi Ed cheers like it, GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed002's Note - I like it as well GB but by my age it becomes more difficult.}

19 Mar 2017 13:05:49
Here we go blues Thursday could be the day Everton announce the new stadium at the docks officially. Also I will put my neck on the line and say Lukaku and Barkley will sign new contracts in the coming weeks, on to next season Everton to make quality signings win the fa cup finish in the top 4 and then the following season make a serious challenge for the league. And then we never look back again only forwards I hope we can all look forward with positivity now bright future ahead blues.

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19 Mar 2017 13:38:20
Love you Steph full of optimism hope you're right.

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19 Mar 2017 14:15:29
Do you have inside info regarding the stadium stef.

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19 Mar 2017 15:27:11
Nope no inside info blue just Mayor Anderson dropping hints again that's all, the rest is just pure optimism.

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19 Mar 2017 15:57:52
It's mayor Anderson tweeting about cancelling fitness session and hairdressers appointment next thursday, then putting " just saying" on the end. Hope it is announcement about stadium.

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20 Mar 2017 08:23:47
Dan Meis, the architect, apparently heading over to Liverpool this week so could be a sign of some ovement on the stadium?

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19 Mar 2017 11:51:34
Rom has certainly divided supporters this week with yet more comments, we can't get away from that fact, but does he really deserve some of the criticism levelled at him?
I wasn't too bothered by the initial report, where he just said 'no' three times with a smile. But his follow up interview left himself wide open for the boo boys to stick the knife in. Many of us have given the club and board a bit of leeway due to the timing of RK and SW being brought in, it left little time to judge the squad as well as bring in new players to improve the squad. For that reason, I was annoyed with Rom for running his mouth. If he knows of targets that we could have bought but never then he should be naming them, not hiding behind anonymity. I can only think of 3 targets, the forward that has joined the saints but his club wanted a silly fee in the summer. Perez (think that's his name) who wanted champs league so went to Arsenal and the fella that agreed to join but then turned his phone off and joined spurs with hours to go. Only two of them look good enough, one can't even get in the spurs team! So one window was wasted. The likes of Schneiderlin and Lookman have improved the squad and it is no secret that FM wants to bring in more talent over the next few windows. In truth, Rom should not be talking about such things, he knows things will improve but it takes time when there is no European football on offer. He has been spoken to by RK so hopefully he will learn from the experience.
But let's get things straight, some fans have come out and slated him for being lazy, for not showing interest etc etc. The lad is only 23 and is the leagues top goal scorer, the first player to hit 20 league goals for us in the prem plus a host of other records. We have cried out for such a player for decades yet there are still those out there that want to rip him to shreds. The things that he gets abuse for can be improved with time, again he is still relatively young, and he will get better as he gets older. He has consistently scored goals in a top division so he has got the talent, despite what his detractors say.
We can't blame him for wanting to play in the champions league, he has proven himself in one of the best leagues and that is the natural progression. As a club, we have to try and get into those competitions if the owners vision is to be realised. It's obvious really.
I say just enjoy him whilst he is still wearing the royal blue, we are lucky to have a player who knows where the net is, just as he is lucky that he is at a club who have helped him improve and give him a platform to perform. In my mind he will be one of the top strikers in the game in the next few years, embrace the fact that he has donned our shirt rather than look for the slightest weakness he may have. If, and when, he leaves wish him well don't hate on him.

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19 Mar 2017 12:14:59
I've been the one guilty of being critical spud, I have let my emotions get the better of me because of Roms statement about the lack of respect so I have been highlighting his faults to justify why he should stay.
On reflection and looking at our record since 1st January, we would be top of the league, we have momentum now and I just hope we turn up at Anfield and lose the inferiority complex, we are better than them and the players need to believe it, Swansea went there and beat them by exposing there weaknesses. We have 9 games left and I seriously believe that it's only Chelsea out of who we have to play that we should be concerned about, so my optimism is back and my criticism is gone. We are Everton and we can get Champions League football and a top 4 finish and show Rom that not only are we an ambitious club on the up, we are a big club ready to compete again.

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19 Mar 2017 12:42:32
It's an emotive game bluegray, we are all guilty of getting carried away at times. I think there is a balance needed though when we become too critical, a good player doesn't become bad because of things done off the pitch. As fans we seem to get hurt far too easy and it can breed contempt!
I hope you're right about the derby, it's about time we showed up at their place. Let's hope RK can keep them calm, it may also help that we have a few young local lads too.
I think 4th is beyond us but I will be happy to be proven wrong. More investment in the squad in the summer could help push us on, although that depends on who we could lose as well. But, like you, I'm optimistic about the immediate future and beyond. It's the best position we've been in since the late 80's for me.

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19 Mar 2017 11:19:08
Only watched the 20 minutes highlights on everton tv yesterday, as I was flying back from holiday in the afternoon, so didn't see too much to judge the performance.
From the bits I seen we never really looked in any danger, Hull didn't look like scoring despite a couple of decent chances. Made up for DCL on his first prem goal, great play between Davis and Ross to set him up. We needed that second goal to kill the game, doesn't matter to me how many the opposition had on the pitch we still had to put the ball in the net regardless. Seen a few comments along the lines of 'if we play like that against better teams we will get punished. ' That maybe right but let's just enjoy the moment. We weren't playing one of the better teams and we got the job done. Nobody looks back at a victory and says we only won 4 nil because they had 10 men! You can only beat what's in front of you and we did. As Degsy mentioned, that's 23 goals for and 3 against (all in the one game) at home in last 7 or so matches so there is more positives than negatives, let's enjoy them boys instead of nit picking!
I'd also add that Valencia and Rom linked up well together in the last 15 mins or so, be good to see them up front together in a few of the remaining games.

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19 Mar 2017 08:30:37
Last 10 games and we won 7, drew 2 and lost 1. Do that 4 times a season and we are champions. Is that too much to hope for next season? Please Lord I promise to pray every day and be as good as I can.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont really see you as a devout church going bible basher degsy, praying to the lord ozzie maybe mate.. :)

19 Mar 2017 09:54:39
That's who I was talking to Ed. And the angel Cahill!

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{Ed025's Note - love it degs..

19 Mar 2017 08:20:29
Played Average won 4-0 couldn't be happier. Harry McGuire even though I haven't seen him much I thought could be a good fit for Everton as a young Centre back. I thought he was tight and calm on the ball. Am I seeing something others are not.

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{Ed025's Note - i find it hard to get excited about a defender when his team has just been spanked 4-0 aussie.. :)

19 Mar 2017 09:12:40
I wouldn't get excited over him just yet but funnily enough I agree with Aussie Toffee. I thought he had a good game and showed brilliant potential for the future. 24 still very young for a centre half.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant say i have seen enough of him to form an opinion NBTB..

19 Mar 2017 12:03:57
He likes to go on his jollies a bit too much for me, bit like stones. I think we need to really push for Keane in the summer and another with some experience.

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19 Mar 2017 01:42:49
People still picking faults in Everton's an lukaku game today. We never played that well won 4-0. Clean sheet an 3 points.

Lukaku never played that well this that an the other but got 2 goals
And an assist.

I'd take that every game of the week. I certain striker like Ruhr Van Nistlerooy comes to mind for that sort of performance.

He is the first forgien striker to get to 80 prem goal before the age of 24 (Rooney owen Folwer) sorry for swearing there Ed.

However, he is the leading goal Scorer In the premier league an first striker to score 20 or more on a season since linekar.

Is right Rom,

I told yas the other day he would score 2.

COYB.

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19 Mar 2017 08:24:59
I keep saying this. he has scored more than any other player by the age of 23 in top flight football. His attitude was a bit suspect a while back but Koeman seems to have got him fitter with a much better attitude. His strength and skill have never been in doubt.

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19 Mar 2017 09:04:05
Thing is, without the sending off we would never have won that game 4-0 and were in danger of conceding as we were far too deep and allowed Hull far too much space and time and against better sides, like our next 2 games we will concede a few and lose these games. So yes regardless of the score line the performance was average at best and we cannot afford to play like that in our next 3 games as we won't collect any points.
On the criticism of Lukaku, this stems from his disrespect of the club by using the media to belittle the club who have given him the chance to progress, yes he is a goalscorer, but he is far from the finished article and has time on his side to improve, yesterday he was bullied by Maguire and was caught offside far too often, his reading of the line leaves a lot to be desired, and that includes coming back into an onside position to give us an outball when we dispossess the opposition in our half.
The pundits that blow his trumpet Week on Week on Sky and MOTD must only see his goals and not his all round game.
So yes I feel as a paying supporter who loves my club, I am entitled to criticise a performance and also a player who has got a bit to big for his boots.
Ross Barkley would be more of a loss as he has just got his head down kept quiet and really improved his game, also Ashley Williams was poor yesterday and against better forwards would have been punished for his constant mistakes, maybe it's time to drop him and bring Holgate in alongside Jags.
On the plus side as I don't want to come across as completely negative, 7 goals and 2 clean sheets when playing average is a big improvement then what we have had for the last 3 years so I am happy with the progress.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont think your timing is very good to be honest gray, the best record in the prem this year, just won 4-0, and have the leagues top scorer...not really much to moan about there for me mate..

19 Mar 2017 10:07:08
Bluegray87, Look at my post above about last 10 games. won 7 drew 2 lost 1. And you are complaining mate? A couple of points I would like to make are that this "turnaround" has happened in the first 9 months of our new manager. Even Chelsea ground out a result yesterday. no team plays brilliant each week. What Lukaku is doing is trying to get the best deal he can. maybe at Everton, maybe elsewhere. It is what happens in football. Finally, you can look at things a in a positive way or a negative way. Last season I was caught up in all the negative things about our club. and there were a lot of them. However, I have seen we are now at last making progress again. like we were prior to Martinez. And I am frankly enjoying being an Evertonian once again. I accept that you are aloowed to criticise certain aspects and I agree with some of your points. but I suggest you look at the wider picture of 7 wins and 2 draws out of 10. Added to which consecutive home wins of 4 nil,3 nil and 4 nil. look at our goal difference and enjoy the ride. Enjoy being an Evertonian. that is something that is difficult at times. but not now!

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{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way degs mate..

19 Mar 2017 10:30:59
OK maybe my timing is not right and of course I am happy with the recent turnaround at the club, I was just saying that we need to up our game now against much better sides to really be considered as serious challengers to the top 4, beat Liverpool and we are 2 points off them if city beat them today.

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19 Mar 2017 11:37:28
Even though I don't agreed with the timing of what Lukaku said last week. Picking faults with his game to me is very petty. Everton for the first time in the Premier history have a player who scored more than 20 goals he must be doing something right. I have been a supporter for 48 years and yet to see a perfect footballer
I was made up with the crowd getting behind Lukaku and the team.
I do believed that footballer are not forever they will come and go. The trick is enjoy the ride or spell . I for one will support Lukaku while he wear the Blue shirt. Finally I believed there an outside chance of us getting in the top 4 this season on current form. COYB.

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19 Mar 2017 12:18:03
I know much is being made that Hull went down to 10 men but you still need to close out those games, under Martinez we may have conceded when they were down to 10, you need to beat what is in front of you and I always think at this time of year relegation threatened teams are more dangerous.

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19 Mar 2017 16:50:09
I wasnt trying to be too critical Bluegray. just sometimes we all suffered so much as Evertonians that it is easy to not realise the club has indeed turned a corner and once again we are going in the right direction. Maybe Koeman will go? Maybe Lukaku will go? We could end up with a refreshed Arsen Wenger who puts a team together that goes unbeaten all season? We could end up with some awful manager and never replace Lukau. but. and heres the crunch. right now, Lukaku is our player and has great stats. We have a bunch of youngsters showing real promise. We have a great last 10 games and even maybe a new stadium? We have Steve Walsh unearthing gems like Calvert-Lewin, Gana and Lookman. We have Barkley and Davies as home grown incredible talent. We have the reds assembled at about 5 times the cost of our squad and not much difference in current abilities. They look like they are on the way down and we are on the way up. Enjoy being Blue for the moment, that's my tip.

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