Everton Banter Archive December 19 2011

19 Dec 2011 23:29:02
we should give djo a trail as transfer from sporting lisbon to nice was not completeted before villa singh him {Ed025's Note - do you mean djalo?..

19 Dec 2011 22:55:02
Hiya ed..... Just want to post to all blues that go the match, i am a season ticket holder for the last 7 seasons and this season 's atmosphere in the ground has been awful !!!
Me and my fellow blues who go the game sit always try to start the atmosphere but no-one joins in, i know the football isn't great to watch at the minute, but the few times we build a atmosphere the players DO react.......
Let's do it more lads, starting on wednesday, nothing better than a night game at Goodison under the lights and the ground rocking. Swansea will sh*t themselves !!
Paul EFC {Ed025's Note - great post that paul!...as you say, goodison under lights is special....so come on blues..."lets be having you"

It's a shame Moyes doesnt provide attacking football for us to get excited about then !
Markyg {Ed025's Note - lets see how he performs if we get some dosh marky!

Hey Paul, you just persuaded me and my lad to go the match again after boycotting last Saturday due to our Stoke performance the other week.

Please please let us win.

Degsybluenose

19 Dec 2011 19:40:51
Right blues - I apologise in advance for the length of this but bare with me!

Please please please will some of you guys quit calling for Moyes' head! For a start - where would we be without him? Perhaps exactly where we are now but we would without doubt have 'done time' in the Championship and maybe struggled to get out, please see Leeds, Notts Forest, Sheff Weds and co. Granted none of them are as big as Everton but big clubs nonetheless.

Having said that - I wouldn't say that we should keep hold of a manager just because of his past record. Let's face it this season hasn't been good enough given the players at his disposal. I think 99% of Evertonians would agree with the next few points and please tell me if not! Tim Cahill is perhaps reaching the stage of his career when he will be best used off the bench, similar to Big Dunc towards the end of his career. I think with 20 minutes to go he could be a great impact sub. Ross Barkley is good enough to merit a more involved role in this side. At 18 he is no longer a kid and could provide that bit of spark we are missing. Especially when we are playing Neville in centre mid and he just isn't creative enough. 4-5-1 at home is far too defensive! If fit Royston, Rodwell and Barkley should be key members of this side!

Back to defending Moyesie - although I said earlier I don't want to focus too much on his past record, I mean in the sense of we can't just keep a manger for saving us a decade ago. However, only 3 years ago we were consistant 5th or 6th place finishers and had reached an FA Cup final, UEFA Cup quarter and a League Cup Semi! We were perhaps 2 or 3 players from breaking into the top four and staying there! Arteta, Felli, Pienaar, Jags, Cahill, Saha and the likes were scary! However, that was throuigh no fault of Moyes. That was Kenwright not seizing the opportunity and we are a long long way away from that top 4 now! This just goes to prove that give him money consistantly (and I am only talking £10-20m a season) and he will deliver a good side. Of course there have been the likes of Kroldrup and Bily but all managers are entitled to the odd dodgy signing! Ask Kenny Dalglish all about Andy Carroll or Ferguson about Djema Djemba, Kleberson and Veron!

It wasn't Moyes' decision to let Arteta and Pienaar go - that was the board! Anyway - I clearly need to get out more but it just pains me to see this power house of English football struggling so much.

Chin up though guys - if Moyes reads this in January he will play Drenthe, Fellaini, Rodwell and Osman/Donovan in midfield and Barkley just behind Saha/Donovan. You choose Davey lad!

See you all on Wednesday, let's bring back the atmosphere that no side likes to come up against!

COYB - Maiden {Ed025's Note - really good post maiden...the only vague point for me...is that you start with "please stop calling for moyes head"..then give us loads of reasons to do it?...other than that, i really enjoyed it!..

I don't think they are reasons to sack him though mate - just that I can accept why some fans are fed up with him. Think it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Moyes' though as he has shown what he can do with a bit of money! Cheers for posting though mate - must take up half the banter page! {Ed025's Note - it was a good post...i am not advocating his sacking by the way...but can see why some fans are..

19 Dec 2011 18:20:14
moyes gives drenthe back handed compliments like "if we had the ball all of the time Roy would be ok - but when we don't have the ball we need people who are going to win it back"
This is a nightmare comment from a guy who just wants to defend and win 1-0 or just draw games.
With comments like this moyes will lose drenthe for us.
Drenthe made a massive difference for us and if moyes can't see that he's heading for the sack eventually
moyes - you can stack your team with about 7 defenders but you need some attackers as wel that will open up the opposition.
Get a grip! {Ed025's Note - get a grip is right mate!..is he trying to get himself sacked?....he is really trying the patience of the supporters..

Totally agree mate moyes cant see it when 35thou can so frustraten u need to take a chance an play with risks instead of SUPPOSELY playin it safe cos it aint workin an it really gettin me down now an i would honestly would rather he tryed 4 4 2 with straq an saha an took a chance 4 once i would accept it for tryin it out instead of the same an we chasin goals

19 Dec 2011 17:12:55
If Moyes considers Drenthe a bit of a liability when he hasn't got the ball, why not play him in the roll Cahill usually occupies? I didn't see the match Saturday but I've read that Denis was fairly lively and was winning headers, holding the ball etc. Why on earth has he not been playing more regularly?

Saha and Cahill are about as potent up front as my grandparents!

Also how come Barkley wasn't even on the bench?

Why not play two up top with Drenthe, Osman, Rodwell and Felli in midfield {Ed025's Note - i would give royston a free role, he is not great defensively, and is full of flair and trickery, i think we can afford him to do it, i dont know if ross was injured?..but if not, i think its a disgrace he was not even on the bench..

It would be great if royston had free role alltho i still think he can sort is stuff out coyb

Its no wonder Cahill is not performing if he is occupying a roll - that would cramp anyone's style

19 Dec 2011 16:52:43
Hey Ed's, my brother say's that Rory Donnolly has already signed with Swansea. Is that true?

Breeno {Ed025's Note - apparently breeno ...its true

Pity, but we can't get them all I guess. Atleast we managed to get George Green and the Duffus brothers.

Breeno {Ed025's Note - our youth policy, and recruitment are excellent, we really need that ethos to be applied to the first team breeno..

19 Dec 2011 15:13:40
hi people, this isnt a rumours its more of a question. ive just been told my a mate that the "mystery shirt sponsor" is something to do with a take over bid( but think im being wound up tbh).........has anyone else know anything else about it.

merry christmas to all my fellow evertonians around the world.

There is no mystery shirt sponsor, the shirts were to raise money for victims of the Thai floods. Chang are part of major businesses in Thailand raising releif aid money. The shirts were auctioned off after Saturdays match

It was to show respect to the people in thailand last year mate... Its not a takeover
EFL

Oh yeah them floods in thailand that were last year dont think so mate they happen bout two months back an it was a one off rasier

The shirts have been auctioned off after the game.. To raise money for the charity.
EFL

19 Dec 2011 13:31:04
Great thing about the Xmas period is that a poor result like Saturday can be wiped from the memory very quickly, already excited bout the game Wednesday, will make Xmas so much better with an attacking team, good performance and positive result!

I wish all my fellow blues and in fact all readers of the site a happy christmas, and a prosperous new year!!

Kurajan

19 Dec 2011 10:55:18
Just a quickie to wish all ED's and fellow blues a very merry xmas, great site folks, keep up the good work.

BATTO EFC

Same to you and your family Batto

Degsybluenose

19 Dec 2011 03:12:29
First of all just wan't to say Merry Christmas to all of my fellow Blues! Right now with my Dreams...

Team after Jan...
Outs:
Bily - 6-7m to a Russian club (will go cheaper if not Russian leaue)
Heitinga - 5m

Ins:
Donovan loan (done deal)
Mcgugan - 1-2m
Rory Donnelly - 120,000
Drenthe (Permanent) 2m
Yohan Tavares - 0.5m
Onuoha loan(with view to buy)
Luuk De Jong - 6m

Team after Jan:

Howard
Onuoha
Jagielka
Distin
Baines
Coleman
Fellaini
Rodwell
Drenthe
Donovan
Luuk De Jong

Bench:
Hannehman, Hibbert, Tavares, Gueye, Barkley/Osman, McGugan, Vellios/Straq

I'm the original poster and forgot to put McGugan/Cahill on the bench*

Like that Kidder

Degsybluenose {Ed025's Note - if thats our side in january...i will be more than happy..

Think i would start barkley over rodwell other than its spot on

Your Football Manager save looks good... Oh wait, are you suggesting Moyes will sign 7 players in the same window? haha

19 Dec 2011 00:31:58
Right again im gna try an put my positive spin on things.. First of all ill take the easy option. We are not going to be relegated an il personally take anyones money who wants to disagree. Were going through a tough time but its more than a good bet that we will finish in the top 10. We have a good group of players which no one can argue against (other than the proven goal scorer which we need) we have one of if not the best youth systems including both the academies and scouting systems. we have a chair man who loves us and is being careful who he gets investment from (blackburn among others are an example of how important this is) i genuinely dont believe its because he is asking to much after all he has done for us he deserves my loyalty. As well as this we have a manager who is constantly linked with one of the biggest roles in world football. i for one will remain positive and not one person on this or any site will change this. Im everton until I die and my.belief in the club will still be there until then. Rant over.. Cropper