Everton Banter Archive May 18 2018

18 May 2018 21:03:50
bookies have brought Fonseca back in to 11/ 4 2nd favourite to be next manager.

18 May 2018 23:03:12
he has signed a contract extension at Shakter it was confirmed today.

18 May 2018 23:22:13
Huh? Fonseca renewed his contract at Shakhtar yesterday.

19 May 2018 09:02:20
I know he did, but the bookies seldom get it wrong.

19 May 2018 09:05:51
Just goes to show you can't believe every thing you see.

19 May 2018 09:16:42
Bookies get it 'wrong' all the time. Their job is to make money, and if that means encouraging bets that have no hope of success, they'll do it.

{Ed025's Note - thats very true coyb..

18 May 2018 17:30:15
. Well, it seems West Ham have chosen Pellegrini as they cannot persuade Benitez. so that puts us in with a great chance of trying to go all out for Rafa, as for me he's the standout contender for the job. perfect for our project and will propel us into the top 4 within 2 seasons!

18 May 2018 18:05:52
I don't think rafa would work with Brands. He wants full control of signings. Hence why he left Liverpool. I do believe he's a top manager though.

18 May 2018 18:51:05
Rafa’s biggest grumble has been lack of funds. Most managers work with DOFs now. I’d be happy with Rafa, his record speaks for itself. As does Emery’s. What is Silva’s record?

{Ed025's Note - very decent actually bluey, google it mate and it may put you at ease mate..

18 May 2018 20:34:10
Other than Hull and watford it isn’t bad really and you could say he didn’t have the greatest squad at Hull and if yiu factor in with it going to pot at Watford he has some good stats.

{Ed025's Note - i think its better than some are saying ST..

18 May 2018 21:40:32
Bluerobbo he did not leave Liverpool because of transfer control, it was a personality issue. Brands and Benitez are both cut from the same cloth, they would be brilliant together. Benitez is a class act, it is that simple. Do your research on Silva and it is plain the bloke has not matured yet. I keep reading look at Silvas resume and history, well yeah of course I have and not impressed. If you need more managerial names then, sorry about that.

18 May 2018 23:57:47
Silva's record is decent but not in the Premiership and that is not me being negative, that is being factual. I want a Manager that we are not going to sack once he hits a rocky road because we know he has the ability to recover. Silva took Hull down and had no answer to Watfords demise (they used us as an excuse) so was sacked. Martinez was hired on the strength of his FA Cup win (the guy took Wigan down and they are only just recovering) and Koeman on his name.

I think it was Ed002 that said Mr Moshri needed to take advice from a knowledgable source, he appears to have done that and now it would seem we are at last moving forward. The most important signing for me is a proven successful DoF and the involvement of Raola (a very good friend of Brands apparently) . Brands will have a major input into our next Manager which is important, if that turns out to be Silva then I bow to knowledge greater than mine.

19 May 2018 09:14:45
I do love when people write about Silva who have no idea what he did before he came to the premiership, at hull they were struggling and he made them a better team he just could keep them up, first season so you can forgive him for that, at Watford he had them flying and everyone was talking about how well they were playing, But saying that at the time they were on a bad run they had what I read 13 first team players out injured, now anyone at any team will struggle with that.

{Ed025's Note - some just look for negatives simon, i think they just want to say "i told you so" if things go tits up mate..

18 May 2018 16:34:42
While David Moyes certainly wouldn't be my first choice as our new manager, I feel some Blues here have short memories . We aren't the club now that we were in 2002 when Moyes joined our great club . Moyes and Kenwright transformed us from perennial relegation candidates to top six and even a 4th place . All that was done on a shoestring . Kenwright provided stability and gave complete control to Moyes, and unlike previous chairmen didn't take any cash out of the club . The work done by both made Everton attractive to FM to come in and invest as heavily as he has . Sadly as this season has shown just throwing cash around isn't enough . Like Farhad I am looking forward not back, but let's give them both the credit they deserve .

18 May 2018 20:26:15
Good post mate.

{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..

19 May 2018 09:24:30
I can not ever see why we have slagged that man off, he left to go man Utd, who wouldn't, he made us a top team who could compete against any team, and all that with hardly any money, we had managers who couldn't do anything and he came along and he was in my opinion our savour, he made us a team that people liked, he made us the people's team, he found good players and honestly believe if we had a lukaku when we had our best years we would of been right up there, he just couldn't find that striker.

{Ed025's Note - its the way he left simon, still taking our money when having agreed to join united and coming back for our players saying that they need to move to a bigger club and all that, it showed a total lack of respect and i could not wait to get rid of the git to be honest mate..

18 May 2018
New image uploaded to the
Everton Player Sightings page entitled, No Moyes

18 May 2018 14:55:55
Just read an interesting stat about Lookman. He scored 5 goals in 11 appearances giving him the second best goals to game ratio behind Lewandowski! While Lookman was doing this we had to watch our one trick pony Bolasie add as much spark as a wet flint. I for one hope this kid is a regular starter next season as he has talent to be successful.

18 May 2018 20:35:15
I agree 100%

It will be interesting to see if the fans believe the new gaffer in regard to players.

We have several players not performing and not selected but fans are so suspicious of the coach, we have ruled out their opinions and are still calling for some players to be given a chance. Will this make 4th chance for some?

Anyway it will be great to have a boss who commands some respect from us lot. It's got a bit Mad Max recently. I'm looking forward to performance improvements, but also to fan v club improvements. Goodison was an embarrassment this last 12 months. Let's get her rocking again as it's what we're famous for. Give the old girl the last few years with the roof blown off.

18 May 2018 12:24:57
Whoever we get as a manager, I Will give my 100% support, but could we please go for one with a track record of winning things, rather than yet another one with a track record for getting relegated from the prem.

18 May 2018 13:05:38
He has 1 relegation on his record and won more in other leagues. He doesn't exactly have a record of failure. Don't even think Pep, Wenger or Mourinho would of kept hull up.

18 May 2018 13:05:49
Silva it is then?

18 May 2018 14:38:04
Totally agree with you jcwblue. He's won trophys yes a cup in Portugal and a league in Greece where the football is that poor I reckon I'd get a game myself. The only thing we can judge him on is what he's done in the premier league where's sorry to say he's a proven failure.

18 May 2018 15:10:49
As we say all to frequently, you can only beat what's in front of you. He won the Portugese cup with Portugese level resources and the Greek league with Greek level resources. His teams were at the level they were and he won trophies.
My support for any manager is contingent on him showing that there is a reasonable plan to improve the team in both results and performances. I think all fans can take set backs if they see that things are going in the right direction.

18 May 2018 16:36:54
I am not a fan of Silva but I will support him as I supported Sam because whoever is manager we should support out team through the good and the bad.
This is at least for 75% of the season then we will see how the new manager is doing.
I do not expect miracles as long as we move in the right direction.

18 May 2018 20:14:08
Silva took over a Hull team that was going so n and they went down. Benitez took over a Newcastle team that was going down and they went down. Not much difference from what I can see. Granted Benitez has managed at bigger clubs, but Madrid had all the money in the world and he was hardly strapped for cash at Liverpool. Silva's has success abroad with teams in more competitive leagues with a lesser budget. I’d take either.

18 May 2018 23:30:57
I have to say it's slightly embarrassing for the people giving Silva grief for getting relegated with Hull.

Can anyone remember just how close he got them from being miles away? And some of the teams they faced? And beat?

If almost go so far as calling you clueless about football.

18 May 2018 11:15:58
i go all out for benitez, but silva would be a good manager as well. benitez because of his experience.

18 May 2018 12:09:13
I like Benitez as first choice but I would also be happy with Silva.

We all need to stop moaning and get behind the club, if it's Silva We need to support him and show him how great our club is.

18 May 2018 23:35:13
Benitez is the best man for the job.
He won't come and I hate saying it. It's been really hard to be objective with Rafa for clear reasons. In the last 2 weeks I've flipped 100% to Rafa. He is clearly the best candidate for where we are.

I'd almost say he was risk free too. You could almost guarantee he would crack 6th in 1st season. And bloody a few to grab top 4 in a year or 2.
You'd know he was doing alright when he falls out with Klopp, Mourinho and Pep again. Whilst he's no threat it's all love and kisses.

18 May 2018 09:56:36
Really hope we have a good clearout of "players" now. Get rid of all that negativity that's been around the club. And sorry but Rooney has to go, far to slow now for this level. Need pace in the midfield with at least two attacking players in there.
Would like to see a four, four, two formation, and would have Gana as the holding midfielder. Oh and Lookman has to be brought back, kids going to be massive talent.

18 May 2018 11:10:23
442 far too old school in order to play fast pressing game like top teams to defend from the front you need to have either 3 or 4 players up front to close down opposition.

18 May 2018 11:16:46
why is everybody so desperate to stick it to Rooney? Yes he's not the superstar he once was, and if he stays then it's best that he's an impact sub. But he showed such passion last season, got a decent amount of goals including the stunner against West Ham, and let's be honest, without his contribution we very well could have been in a squeaky bum situation at the end of the season.
I do think he should move to USA yes, but please give him a little respect.

18 May 2018 16:38:13
It's not having a lack of respect, its reality. He is to slow and his best days are behind him sadly.

18 May 2018 23:40:55
He was a our best player in the stats. But that's hardly a bench mark that's fair to him or us as fans or the club.

But he is doing exactly what he did at Utd for 3 years. Mostly getting in the way and giving the opposition as many goals -shots as he makes the other end.

He's a game thrower waiting to happen. It's not that he's slow (He is, I actually never credited him with any pace) but he sort of intimidates the younger players and I think it's just an emotional decision that clouds lots of fans.

He isn't good enough. I'd like him to stay as a coach or something but he wants to play still. Let him go I say. Especially if we can make a few quid too.

18 May 2018 07:52:02
Morning Blues/ Ed's

Im going to stick my neck out and say Silva to sign today.

18 May 2018 06:45:02
100 million transfer kitty, 6 million a year, total control over transfers. Benitez terms for West Ham Manager. Come on Mr Moshri/ Brands we can easily match that and certain Benitez would work in harmony with Brands - mutual respect. If Sam is worth 6 mill, Benitez has to be worth at least double that. One thing is certain is that Benitez is an upgrade on the touted favourite (Silva) .

{Ed025's Note - i dont get all this negativity towards silva you know DFS, good young up and coming manager and very well thought of by all the experts, i dont know what evertonians want anymore we are not an elite club anymore and the top names will not be coming (not that raffa is one of these), cant we just be happy that we are moving on and look forward to the future without slagging the guy off before we have even appointed him?, its not just you mate but why cant we just be happy that the club is moving forward and we learn to walk before we can run..

18 May 2018 07:11:19
👏👏👏👏👏 well said mate, totally agree.

18 May 2018 07:13:48
With you on that Ed mate let’s greet whoever we get and give him a couple of seasons to sort out our. sorry mess, and above all get behind him and look forward to the good times.

{Ed025's Note - its a step in the right direction GB and and after the last 6 months i think we should be doing handstands mate..

18 May 2018 07:20:02
Sorry. I will of course add that if it is Silva, I will back him to the hilt and rather than with Alardyce (he was always a stop gap) , believe he should be given time even if that means finishing outside the top 6 for a couple of seasons as long as we can see we are going in the right direction.

{Ed025's Note - thats all im advocating DFS, lets give the guy a chance and not be defeatist before we give him a shot, it was not a dig at you personally mate but at the negativity that seems to be plaguing this club at the moment..

18 May 2018 07:33:16
I think the signing of Marcel Brands will be the most important thing we have done.

18 May 2018 08:04:22
I think ALL of the managers that have been talked about are refreshing and exciting.

Personally, I like Silva as he has experience of building a club up from the bottom and getting it to the top. He's also a winner in more than one country meaning he's adaptable.

I have no doubt we disrupted his time at Watford when they were doing well so I can give him the benefit of the doubt.

I don't like Benetez as a man and is as arrogant as Sam. He's a good manager but I'm a bit sick of all the old school ones now and would like to see us move into this new era with a more forward thinking outlook.

Whoever it is though I am sure he will have a more progressive type of football and hopefully the board have learned a valuable over the past 6 months.

18 May 2018 08:04:56
If Rafa wants total control over transfers then he will not be coming to Everton as surely the recruitment falls under Brands job description? Maybe this is why he has not been mentioned or considered.

18 May 2018 09:33:02
BlueJohnsUns I have to disagree reg Rafa being arrogant as I have met the man and he was a cracking fella both winding each up other Liverpool and Everton he was on a tour of Alder Hey and he even came back to say bye but I agree with bluegray87 Rafa won't come because he likes to have final say on transfers and I'm more than happy with Silva before he joined Hull he had a 70% win rate at Olympiacos and did very well in Portugal taking a team from the second tier to the premiership and a cup win.

18 May 2018 10:36:13
Maybe Blue. I've not met him personally. However, saying he cleaned up Jose's mess at Chelsea and Real after he'd won most trophies out there and calling us a small club probably just makes him stupid rather than arrogant. Either way I'm not overjoyed at someone coming in who said that about us.

18 May 2018 10:40:40
Yes I like him, but his demands mean nothing, it's all about the money, I would have him here.

18 May 2018 11:24:26
bluejohn 12 months ago I would of agreed but as of today I will be happy with 1 of Silva emery or Rafa all different coaches who will bring something different to the table one thing is for sure this close season is the biggest on our history.

18 May 2018 17:05:58
My contention is that Silva is unproven and for me far to like Martinez (another who at the time I and others warned about) . We need someone that will command respect. If we want a young and upcoming Manager how about home grown such as Dyche. Benitez it is for me though, the guy has done it and more importantly knows how the game works and knows what it takes to succeed.

18 May 2018 17:06:31
After the last 6 months of football served up by Allerdyce I would have my missus as manager. If it's Silva let's get behind him . I have a feeling that he is going to surprise us.

18 May 2018 17:07:41
The problems with Silva is not his tactics or style but apparently brings problems where ever he goes. (or so i've heard. )

18 May 2018 23:36:21
whoever becomes manager, there’ll be some discontented fans. Their views are valid and honestly held, so I’m not criticising them.
What I will point out is that our two most successful (trophy-winning) managers - Harry Catterick and Howard Kendall - had fans calling for their sacking on some occasions, but the club stood firm and reaped the benefit.

18 May 2018 23:51:51
Some of our fans are starting to sound like ones at other clubs. wanting change all the time for change sake. We need some stability now. With maybe a couple of signings. Wholesale changes is not what we need. Look what happened last season with 5 new players coming in.

18 May 2018 00:20:36
It's good to be back. I suggested Blanc sometime ago and I still stand by that. He has premier league experience as a player and plays a good brand of European football, and is very meticulous. Roy Keane always respected him calling him a consummate professional. He also has a good rep so could attract some good players.
What do you thinks Ed's.

COYB.

{Ed007's Note - Roy Keane is one of the most perfect example of human evolution ever seen on earth in the past 200 years, we should all strive to be more Keane-like and the world would be a better place - but he's a bit of a nutcase underneath all that charm and charisma.}