Everton Banter Archive June 17 2013
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17 Jun 2013 23:24:04
On tv martinez said he is looking to open new markets, could this mean he is going to bring in young gems from the south americas?
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No a fruit an veg stall in town. Lol
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I feel this is where Martinez might do better than Moyes - Moyes seemed to scour the championship or scotland/ireland for his little gems - Martinez might do better with foreign finds
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17 Jun 2013 22:04:54
looking forward to seeing the 5 everton lads with england under 20s at the weekend.
we must have the most players in the squad
hope they do really well.
COYB
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17 Jun 2013 21:24:41
is there any truth is michu having a release clause of 7 million in his contract? if laudrup goes from swansea would hope martinez could use his spanish connection to bring michu and pablo hernandez over to goodison, obviously only a hope but ya never know? any ED know of michus contract situation? {Ed025's Note - no mate, sorry..
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Yeah - but others would queue up for him too
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17 Jun 2013 17:54:09
I just wish I could get excited but they are not helping as a club we are constantly being linked with alcaraz on a free.
I don't want that I just wish just for once they could get us excited by at least going for a big player if we have pass to spend we were the 3rd highest chance provides last season we just didn't have a striker to score so what I say is get Moses and by a really good centre forward and if fellaini goes well use 8 mil or so for fer an use the rest again towards a striker.
I. e Moses 10 mil
Alcaraz free
Fer if fella goes 9 mil
Sure we would have left about 25 mil
So spend it I. e bent and Negrado or if u really wanna go for it higuan why not.
Maybe I'm a fool I just think for once in your life guys blow the cash and see what it brings us
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Higuain would want silly wages. Negredo and soldado are abit old. Best semi-realistic options are javier Hernandez and Pierre emerik aubemyang.
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How much would Fred cost? 29 but looks perfect for the prem. If it wasnt silly money he, d be a goer for me Gents. RW
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17 Jun 2013 17:32:26
Won 840 pound thanks to Justin Rose. Just another 9mill more wins and the clubs mine. That's how hard it is for Bill to invest. Doesn't win enough bets. {Ed025's Note - nice one mate..
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17 Jun 2013 20:20:04
Well done oldie
degs
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17 Jun 2013 17:31:50
In my own personal opinion I really hope we don't bring in this Henriquez on loan from Man Utd, it shows a lack of positive intent. This is the same player who could hardly get a game at Wigan last year when on loan and that was under Martinez.
We need a proven striker if we have any ambition of moving forward under Martinez.
As I said this is just my opinion and I'm sure people will disagree.
Dixie 1878
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I completely agree. Martinez clearly wasn't impressed by him at Wigan, so why would we want him. I can't imagine he's better that vellios so why bring in more sub par competition.
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What about Martinez going for Mauro Bosselli?.
He signed him for Wigan for 6.5 million and decided after 4 games he didn't have a future.
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What about a certain Mr Koldrup what was it 1 game and never seen again as he was that bad, so don't tell me that Moyes was perfect either.
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17 Jun 2013 16:07:05
checkout different leak claiming to be our new kit.
i hope this one is real! looks great and apart from the 'nil satis nili optimum' bit missing I actually really quite like the new crest now its simple, neat and traditional. will be much more recognisable from a world marketing perspective with 'everton' on it. well until its all changed again next year (thank you petition signers)
http://www.tsmplug.com/football/kits/everton-shirts-2014/
AussieBlue
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This one was circulated a week or two ago. I actually prefer this than the latest 'leaked shirt' with the double bands on the sleeves. I don't particularly like either, although it could be a heck of a lot worse. Have you seen the Christmas jumper the other lot will have to wear on their travels? Brilliant!
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17 Jun 2013 19:36:03
these were on twitter 3-4 weeks ago, apparently 'nil satis nisi optimum' will be on the back of the collar just above were the squad names are printed
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'apparently 'nil satis nisi optimum' will be on the back of the collar just above were the squad names are printed'
If that is true then I want some recognition off the club, as I made this suggestion on here and to the club weeks ago as soon as the badge came out. I now wish that I was registered on here to prove it. Damn it.
Mike
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The kits will have been designed months ago, Mike haha. That's one of the reasons they can't change the badge immediately, because all the merchandise and kits were already made.
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17 Jun 2013 15:46:09
Ed when will Everton show off the new kits? {Ed025's Note - a week or 2 before the season starts i expect mate..
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Why that long it don't make any sense.
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Surely it will be before first pre season game, because of the badge having changed. 1st game July 14th so week before I would have thought.
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Ed probably means a week or 2 before the pre season starts, am I right ed? {Ed025's Note - a bit later i suggest.
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We're always among the last to get a glimpse of the new shirt. Chelsea released images of theirs weeks ago. Surely if people are going away on holiday, they'd buy the new shirt to wear away. I know we went through a spell of wearing the new shirt for the last game of the season. They could've at least made it avaialble for Father's Day!
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17 Jun 2013 15:11:46
Ed, do you think that Vic is more likely to stay as Martinez was apparently interested in him when he was at the Latics?
Finally, can I just say that even BK and the board can't ruin my summer as I have just finished high school (Brownedge in Bamber Bridge for those who may know it) for good. I had my last exam today and I think I did exceptionally good compared to how I thought I may have done. It was maths - perhaps my best subject.
Bring on the summer ahead and the tv yellow bar saying "tv: Everton bid £200m for Lionel Messi". You never know!
Keep positive guys and get behind the whole team on the 18th, 19th or 20th of August no matter how sad you are with our new manager having come from a team he got relegated. {Ed025's Note - i do think vic will stay keith...and well done with your exams mate..
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This guy does not start for Man U. he is a good reserve at best al la gibson. maybe 18 mill and the reserve striker
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17 Jun 2013 14:57:34
This deal would be perfect for both teams £10m and Hernandez for Fellaini then we could buy Fer.
If only!
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I don't think the player would be very keen on the deal. i'm sure he would rather play for a Spanish club were he to leave Manchester United as he's to good to be giving up European competition at his stage of his career.
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Hernandez isn't worth 13-14m
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How could we then buy fer?
if we got hernandez that's the same wages as fellaini so no savings there, you have to inc a signing on fee and agent fee and a cut to the bank leaving us with around about a pound to spend not the 8 million pound it would cost for fer
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Hernandez is worth 15 m if your looking at market value would get in most prem teams just has RVP and Rooney to compete agains
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Well done Keith, now get a job in finance make billions and buy the club please lol
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17 Jun 2013 12:05:05
I'm liking the regular page updates this morning. But come on Ed, I'm waiting on some genuine transfer gossip rather than all the guesses. Pleeeease get some info for us. {Ed025's Note - im trying mate..
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17 Jun 2013 10:20:55
I've missed the majority of the Honda talk. What is the basis for this speculation ed? You seem quite adamant that there's interest. Hope so! {Ed025's Note - we tried to get a pre contract agreement with him in january, that was not forthcoming, but he was still very interested in coming, heard nothing since..
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Why don't Everton just offer his club some money now to show Honda that they really want him otherwise they will lose out when the bigger clubs come along offering bigger wages when his contract is up.
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17 Jun 2013 09:00:52
Ed Question: Years ago if a player asked to leave a club mid contract he forfeited his signing on fee for his new club.
Confused by Fellani talk, contract expires 2016. If he does want to rip up his contract will he get his cut of any possible move? {Ed025's Note - im not sure mushy, contracts these days are very complicated, and quite frankly, not worth the paper they are printed on mate..
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17 Jun 2013 08:43:01
Ed you seem fairly confident we will sign or at least go for Moses, this guesswork or have you got a few sources? Cheers {Ed025's Note - its guesswork D, my sources wont be back till later in the week mate, and hopefully i will get some info then..
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17 Jun 2013 14:11:09
We need to snap fer up before someone else does.
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Yes that's kenwright for you mate I. Bet we miss out on fer dure to kenwrong
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Just been having the same conversation with a mate. Totally agree that the longer we faff about, the more chance that we'll miss the boat. BK does enjoy a good faff. (Wavertree Blue)
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Prefer mc carthy younger knows prem, Martinez knows him so will hit floor running. ideally get both felliani deal should finance the two deals,. then kenwright could finance couple of more deals.
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He has been playing in u21 comp so can't do anything untill this week anyway
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17 Jun 2013 11:59:26
Hope the anichebe plus £3mill are true for loic remy!
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I hope not. what's going to happen if remy is found guilty in his court case. we lose another striker
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Remember Tony Kay.
We paid a big fee (for those days) to bring him from SheffWed to Everton and he was at the core of our team in the mid-1960s that Harry Catterick built. Then Kay got done for match-fixing (with other SheffWed players) and we not only lost his services, but also had no compensation for the transfer fee we paid. Fortunately, a couple or so years later, we brought in another midfield dynamo, Alan Ball, and he rest is history.
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17 Jun 2013 11:43:10
I've noticed posters say they wouldn't take Maloney or Kone because of their age but I don't this should be a factor because they are both good players. Age didn't stop us bringing in Pienarr or Hitzslesperger ( sorry for spelling ) this season and both helped bulk up squad and also play in games to a good standard.
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100% agree with you there my friend. I could list hundreds of Premiership players who were playing they're best football at 30+. I read on here yesterday that apparently Leon Osman's had it now he's 30+ even though he had one of his best seasons last year and broke into the England squad! I found that a very amusing read. One word springs to mind for some supporters That post on here. Fickle!
Dog Puke Peter
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Totally agree about Osman. check his ratings for last season, he's in and around the top 20 midfielders!
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Normally most people wouldn't care if we brought in one or two players 27+, but the reason people go on about age is the fact that we have a lot of players 27+:
Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Pienaar, Osman, Jelavic, Heitinga, Mucha, Hibbert & Hitzlsperger
We need to be lowering the age of our squad, not increasing it
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17 Jun 2013 11:20:48
I'd be quite happy with the following signings this summer;
1) fer 2) Honda 3) mcmanaman/or Moses 4) negrado/ or soldado, + maybe Alcaraz on a free + kone/or bent if we could get them on the cheap as cover upfront, may also need some cover in the goalkeeping department too. I don't think we need to invest that much on defence or anywhere else as its time to start budding the youngsters from the academy e. g. - stones, Duffy, mcaleny, barkley, etc.
I would definitely sell heitinga, & fellaini (but only if we can get near to £30 million for him or £24 million + decent arsenal squad player in return maybe ones that are haven't always been in their first team consistently last season e. g. - Rosicky, vermaelan etc or though I don't think there would be much chance of that as wenger probably wouldn't allow it
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So really not an original thought in any of that then.
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You'd be QUITE happy with that? You're a hard man to please, I see, and come the end of the window will be sorely disappointed. I'd be absolutely delighted with Fer and Honda and, at a stretch, Moses on loan.
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I wouldn'd like to see so many midfielders come in. it's the only place we don't need to change!
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Our midfield is quality, but apart from super kev, whos a forward really one thing our midfield lacks is genuine pace imo, it takes us an age to turn defence into attack. Then again having every man back in our own area from corners doesn't help, hopefully that will all change in the coming season.
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17 Jun 2013 10:32:26
Paulo Dybala from Palermo, 19 Striker and as Palermo got relegated I reckon we could get him a lot cheaper.
He gets compared to Sergio Aguero
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Josip ilicic would be another class signing from Palermo. Have always said that he should be our replacement for Fellaini if/when he leaves.
Hank
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17 Jun 2013 09:52:09
Imagine having Joe Kinnear in charge of all transfers. oh lol
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17 Jun 2013 10:41:30
You missed out Pardew managing his buys, poor Geordies
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I'm not bks biggest fan, but Newcastle and Joe kinnear seams like ashley likes winding the geordies up.
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Just when you think it isn't possible to laugh at Newcastle anymore, they go and announce this.
Pardew on a 8 year contract and now Kinnear as DOF.
Mike Ashley = The gift that keeps on giving.
Mike
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Just a set up by ashley to get rid off pardew
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Dont knock Joe Kinnear he has made some very astute purchases recently my mate saw him down at sports direct buy a newcastle kit 3 weeks ago know he's got a job with the toown.
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Out of touch with modern game pardew will leave within next 6 months so he will be picking his team from players kinnear bought I smell relegation battle for Newcastle this season
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17 Jun 2013 09:13:15
So we all know Martinez will officially start work on 1st July. When do we expect our 1st transfer to be announced? How about for a bit of fun we have a sweep stake on when our 1st new signing is officially announced? At least we can then work out who the genuine posters may be with all the rumours.
I'm going for the 23rd July and based on the rumours on various sites and papers Alcaraz is my choice for player.
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If it's Alcaraz I think the deal will be wrapped up quickly, the second week in july or thereafter
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Ok just to point out he won't be 1st transfer as he won't be contracted to a club so it will be a free agent signing transfer will be a paid amount to a club sorry for defining your question but my answers will be
First week July leroy fer reason for this is I believe this has the least paper work to sort out as negotiations won't need to much talking about fer would jump at chance it's just about if fee is the same and medical but that should not change we know about the injury but that is on record now and will always be there
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Alcaraz is contracted to Wigan until July 1st.
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16 Jun 2013 21:17:42
I see Soldado wants to play in the PL. think he's playing tonight for spain. Think he would be out of our price range wouldn't he Ed?
Andy {Ed025's Note - sadly, i think you may be right..
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