Everton Banter Archive December 17 2011
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17 Dec 2011 21:09:02
My team for Wednesday versus
Swansea would be:
Howard
Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines
Drenthe Fellaini Rodwell Osman
Barkley
Stracqualursi
Subs:
Mucha Neville Coleman Heitinga
Cahill Vellios McAleny
The reasons that I have chose
these players is:
Howard - Our best GK
Hibbert - Playing well
Jagielka - Amazing at blocking shots
and organizing
Distin - Has speed and height, also,
Heitinga takes too many risks
Baines - A great attacking threat
Drenthe - Against Norwich he
exploded onto the scene!
Fellaini - Good for set-pieces
Rodwell - Is good at driving runs
from the midfield
Osman - His confidence will be high
after his goal
Barkley - Can provide the killer pass
we need
Stracqualursi - Wins lots in the air
and played well against Norwich
Players that I would drop from the
starting 11 from the Norwich match
are:
Neville - Our team captain but he
is too negative and plays too slow
Heitinga - Takes too many risks for
a defender
Cahill - Hasn't scored for a year and
doesn't really look this scoring
either
Saha - Is just LAZY, wouldn't even
put him on the bench. Wouldn't
care if he went off on one
Gueye - Lost the ball too much
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You can't really say Stracqualursi awful
either because he's had barely any
first 11 experience
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17 Dec 2011 20:56:28
Our first team 11 and Subs from
today - my ratings:
Howard - 6
Hibbert - 6
Jagielka - 6
Heitinga - 5
Baines - 7
Osman - 5
Fellaini - 6
Neville - 5
Gueye - 5
Cahill - 5
Saha - 4
Drenthe - 10
Stracqualursi - 8
McAleny - 6
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I agree with you on Cahill's rating he was abysmal today I think Moyes need to drop him for a while and tell him to stop diving down at every opportunity
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Saha 4!! he didnt play especially bad
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Osman was terrific are you high?
Toffeeboy
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Osman was actually a 8
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Saha did play bad
*****Pecko*****
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17 Dec 2011 20:11:01
Tim Cahill - moyes likes him and he's been a great servant to the club but he's reminding me of southall in his last season - living on his name and hurting the club - no goals in about a year whilst playing as one of the 2 attackers tells the story - we don't look like scoring when he's playing - Denis and drench made us look like a different team - and the crowd was totally different when they were on
(sub top fellaini is just toooo slow - he just slowly jogs around the pitch - hardly ever where he's needed - and when he has it he doesn't do anything creative or unexpected with the ball - you're playing centre mid workhorse role mate - put a shift in you lazy sod)
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Thats unfair on cahill, he is not a striker so dont expect him to have great games in that position. when he plays in midfeld hes much much better
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17 Dec 2011 18:34:29
good evening ed ....the gossip going around in the street end is kenwiyne jones for 6 mill,..can i take this opertunity to wish my fellow evertonions a happy xmas,breeno,degsdablue ,tp,wavo blue,wizof oz.and all the other blue noses.....ed how about an end of year award for the best post,,,and one for the biggest moaner,the biggest bull sh,ter,biggest optimist.and so on......wats everones new year resalution...mines to keep it real....HAPPY NEW YEAR TO STEVE.THE BOSS. ROSS...................gandolph {Ed025's Note - well you are certainly up for one of those awards gandolph...merry xmas
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Gandolph you are a legend
Merry Xmas to you too mate
Degsybluenose
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All the best gandolph im getting quite fond of you now ..ha ha you really cheer me up .. tp
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I will gladly accept the Christmas and New Year wishes from gandolph on behalf of all the other 'blue noses'. I've been reading this site non stop but have not posted in a long time so I need to do my bit! Merry Christmas fellow Toffee's and fellow Ed's in particular, keep up the excellent service and here's to another brilliant year full of banter and rumours once again.
All the best,
ToffeeBoyJack.
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Nice one gandolph. All the best pal. Merry Christmas to one all... sorry... one AND all! No matter if we agree or disagree, were all in this together. Come on the blues!! We'll all post before then but hopefully the new year will bring us some joy... Landon hope and glory!
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17 Dec 2011 17:33:55
thought big straq and drenthe changed the game when they cam on, straq won everythin in the air, use him like that with saha or conor mac running on and we might start scoring goals
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17 Dec 2011 17:32:59
This quite simply can't go on any longer, I'm a huge Moyes fan but his tactical failings are getting worse!
1 heitinga, great player but too easily pushed off the ball again today as with against Stoke, if the ever was a game for Distin it was today
2 Neville in midfield, great captain but at home against teams you should be beating having another defensive minded player sends out the wrong message
3Gueye on the left, this lad has lots of potential and skill but kept wandering from the left wing leaving Baines on his own and therefore diminished what has been our best attackin option all season
4Cahill on the field, an absolute legend but he's not at the races, looks short on confidence and believe, hasn't scored in 2011!! Give him a rest!
5 Drente, unless he wasn't fit can't understand why he only got 20 mins, he changed the game, sensational
6 Moyes insistence on not playing 2 up front at home! When Strach came on we looked like we had more purpose, he won headers and cased balls, he put himself about more than Cahill and Saha in the whole game, we actually looked good and very threatening with 2 up front!
I'm only an arm chair fan but if even I can see these failings surly those who get paid to run the club can see them too. It has to change because results like that ruin my whole weekend!
COYB
Kurajan {Ed025's Note - good post that kurjan...i agree with all of it!..
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Arm chair fan says it all.
I don't know how further forward Cahil has to play to class Moyes as playing 2 up front.
I accept that people don't class Cahill as a traditional striker but he plays as far forward as Saha.
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Arm chair fan says it all.
I don't know how further forward Cahil has to play to class Moyes as playing 2 up front.
I accept that people don't class Cahill as a traditional striker but he plays as far forward as Saha.
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17 Dec 2011 17:17:18
We really need to find a way to start winning again but we can't get any luck. A lot better today, as frustrated as I am I'm at least happy with the effort of the players, if we can select the right players and they play like today we will start winning a lot more games. We need Drenthe on a permanent!
Here's my team which seems to change a lot because of the consistency of the boys! Happy with gueye's performance.
Howard
Hibbert jagielka distin baines
Drenthe Rodwell fellaini gueye
Osman
Saha
AussieBlue {Ed025's Note - today you cant fault the guys, we just need to be more clinical in front of goal..
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17 Dec 2011 16:55:46
over 20 shots on goal 15 or so on target! alot better but should be beating norwich at home! denis did well, drenthe changed the whole game when he came on, he had more shots on goal in one game than the entire team in the last 2 games! need to start winning but a slightly better pefromance today!
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Dont care about stats we need goals cahill drop him and play 2 up front moyes you muppet {Ed025's Note - i dont think he wants to kermit himself..
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Poor that ed {Ed001's Note - that was his best gag!! He had been waiting months to use that one, bless him. Still he will get some new jokes for you next week.....}
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17 Dec 2011 15:55:12
NO one is going to take over EVERTON while Moyes and KENWRIGHT are in charge
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17 Dec 2011 15:53:17
For the moment we're having very bad luck, but our playing style is very dissapointing, send long-balls to the forwards means lose rapidly. so we have to touch more the ball and dominate more the midfield and stop to play in a long-balls because is useless.
PD: we already need rodwell and drenthe in the field.
PD2: I can't understand why ross barkley hasn't been called for the match.
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17 Dec 2011 15:43:07
Here we go again EVERTON v NORWICH after 28 minutes 1-0 to NORWICH
This looks anoth home defeat. All down to MOYES
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17 Dec 2011 14:20:05
Everton XI v Norwich: Howard, Hibbert, Heitinga, Jagielka, Baines, Osman, Fellaini, Neville, Gueye, Cahill, Saha.
toffee haz
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17 Dec 2011 14:12:38
Happy that gueye is starting but still negative selection for a home game!
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17 Dec 2011 10:10:09
1st of february we will have a decent looking team if you look at the rumours floating around apparently all are nailed on ;)
howard
coleman
jags
jonny
baines
drenthe
fellaini
rodwell
donovan
holtby
henry
only one ive heard that has a chance in january is drenthe on a permenant and obv landons already agreed
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17 Dec 2011 08:08:58
Hope this is the team for today:
Howard
Hibbert Jagielka Heitinga Baines
Coleman Rodwell Fellaini Drenthe
Barkley
Vellios
Subs:
Mucha Distin Osman Gueye Cahill
Saha McAleny {Ed025's Note - i like the look of that team mate..
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It's not too attacking or too defending.
Rodwell and Fellaini would help the defence out because they can both, as we all know, defend. Baines, Drenthe, Coleman, Barkley and Vellios would attack their defence too.
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