Everton Banter Archive May 16 2016

16 May 2016 18:44:58
I expect this will split some fans, but, I do have respect for Martinez with the respectful comments he made about Everton the other day. He did what he thought was best for Everton, although that ended up in his sacking and I personally think that was the right decision. I still have respect for the fact that he cared a lot about Everton. Not the right man for the job but I do wish him the very best in his future endeavours. Onwards and upwards blues, let's just hope we get a manager that'll fall in love with what we are as a club and be able to give us the performances and results our grand old club deserves.

16 May 2016 20:13:24
He cared about as much for Everton as he did for any other Club he would have been appointed to, no doubt he will come out with the same rhetoric at his next Club. What is absolutely dumbfounding about RM is the high esteem he is held as a coach and Manager when the stats and facts just do not bear this out. One thing is absolutely certain, if it was not for Moshri, Martinez would still be here next season and he would still be pushing his philosophy while we would be languishing down in the bottom half of the League. I have much more respect for the likes of Hughes, Koeman etc!

{Ed025's Note - the fact is BCT that he is a decent man who applied for and got a job that was too big for him in the end, i hold no animosity towards the guy i have found out that holding grudges does nothing but tear you up from the inside mate, why dont we just move on and look to the future?..

16 May 2016 20:18:20
Respectful comments my arse. His statement was nothing of the sort. It was a snide attempt to pass the blame for his failings as a manager by blaming the board for not backing him (28 million for lukaku nearly 14 million on a dud) to being under pressure from the supporters what a crock.

16 May 2016 21:06:39
I was dubious about his appointment, but to be fair to Roberto, he injected a bit of much needed positivity into the club after years of 'accepting our place' below some of the so called bigger clubs during the Mayes era. He at least reminded us of the possibility of what we are truly capable of and I slightly admire his resolve, delusional though it became, on trying to build a team, a style and a mentality that unfortunately didn't take. Not sure if I'm remembering this correctly, but when he first arrived, apparently he found a load of pictures and memorabilia in storage and had them put up all around finch farm, as he seemed to fall in love with the rich history of the club. Sadly, he got found out as being well out of his depth. I think he still deserves some respect for his passion, at least. I hope he gets the chance one day to do a Ranieri, who after his stint as Greece manager was considered a bit of a laughing stock. Who knows? Maybe Martinez will win the Premier League with Yeovil Town one day. If this ever happens, remember, you read it here first and yes, I will do predictions at birthdays and weddings for a cut of the winnings. Or the divorce settlement.

16 May 2016 21:11:01
Ed25 don't mistake my criticism of Martinez the Manager for criticism of Martinez the person. I do not know Martinez so have no idea if he is a nice man or not. I deliberately talk about him as coach and manager and that is all I can comment on.

{Ed025's Note - we are all entitled to our opinions BCT, i would just like us to move on mate, last season we had so much talk about moyes and i dont want it now to be about roberto, lets go forwards i say..

17 May 2016 02:42:33
I've wanted Bobby gone since last season, but no one can argue about how well he's conducted himself, the way he handled the Stones saga was great. Glad he's gone but he did only want the best for us. I'm just dead excited about the start of a new era for the blue boys!

16 May 2016 17:06:08
Just wondered will Everton let us no when they interview any candidate's or will it be kept secret until someone is given the job, and how long do you Think the process will take, might sound a stupid question but I'm a Cornish Everton supporter for over 35 years and only get my information on web sites or tv.

16 May 2016 18:21:59
I know everyone is keen for news but please please please can we all have patience this time. Part of the reason for Martinez being hired was knee jerk reaction to the impatience of the fans and media pressure and look how that turned out. I agree with the criticism of Elstone, his finger prints are all over many of our failed projects so quite how he got a position on the board on Moshri's arrival is beyond me.

{Ed033's Note - i think Ed002 said on here that discussions with Ajax / Ronald de Boer representatives are scheduled for this week.

16 May 2016 22:16:51
Everton will let us know if and when a new manager is appointed absolutely 100% they will not tell us who they have and are planning on interviewing, just like if you applied for a job. Under no circumstances whatsoever will we ever know who applied and who was approached and rightly so. Just have a bit of patience people.
It takes a while to secure a contract as complex as the one Jose wants 😂.

16 May 2016 16:13:56
exiting times for us blues.

16 May 2016 16:50:57
I agree, there will be quite a few exiting Everton FC this summer 😂.

16 May 2016 17:00:55
EFC paul: surely you mean "exciting" times - many blues would have been "exiting" if RM he remained :-)

16 May 2016 13:23:10
What's so good about Rafa Benitez?

Jose Mourinho left Inter after winning the league. When Rafa took over the following season, they were 13 points off the top.

Napoli were regular title contenders. Rafa took over, and they were fighting for Europa League spots.

Treated unfairly at Real Madrid, but didn't do anything great with the talent at hand.

Relegated Newcastle, although he wasnt given much time, admittedly, but even John Carver managed to keep them up.

Can people not remember the last time we hired a manager who'd relegated a side the previous season, or are we forgetting that happened?

Not saying we'd get him, but go for Mourinho, and work our way down from there. And stop with the Moyes shouts.

16 May 2016 13:37:34
Agree totally about Benitez although I'm impressed with how he done at Newcastle. I know they got relegated but it was a massive ask to get them out of it when he took over. Overall I wouldn't rate Benitez as a manager. Only my personal view of course.

Agree Mourinho must least be approached. I'd this question to answered well, why not approach Mourinho?

16 May 2016 15:12:34
Don't want him anywhere near our club.
Let him cook in the Championship while this big club plays in the prem.

16 May 2016 20:15:08
Agree with Hugo about Benitez I just don't rate him, Start with Mourinho, and work our way down, if we were unable to secure a top manager and it comes down to a Moyes return Hughes etc. I think I would prefer to give Unsy a go under a director of football. If nothing else we would see the kids come through.

16 May 2016 12:44:54
Just a quick question, the young players were excellent yesterday with Davies probably man of the match, going off his record, do you think that if Mourhino comes in, as everyone wants because he is a winner, that any of said youngsters will get a chance?

16 May 2016 13:24:03
Mourinho isn't coming mate.

16 May 2016 13:40:56
A Murf ever see Shawshank Redemption the movie. Hope is a good thing. Even though the chances are probably something stupid like 15% of the arrival of the special one.

16 May 2016 13:56:42
I do have hope that he is coming mate, its 1% so not likely.

16 May 2016 15:34:52
If Jose comes then these kids will not get a look in unfortunatly.

16 May 2016 19:49:25
You don't no the kids won't get a chance look at his previous clubs all huge clubs with multi million pound stars you can't drop those type of stars he was managing for young kids.

16 May 2016 12:16:44
mourinho 1st rafa 2nd, need a manager to interest new players, rather have moyes bak than fdb.

16 May 2016 12:21:04
Why would you want to go into the past with moyes? we need to look into the future.

16 May 2016 12:42:07
not Rafa for me mate, he's a nob.

16 May 2016 18:33:41
Not going to get Mourinho, not to sure he would be a good fit for us anyway. My son says Benitez but I agree with the other poster that said remember what happened the last time we hired a relegation Manager. For me it is Pellegrini, with De Boer next.

16 May 2016 08:55:43
Regarding Mourinho being linked with Everton or not, it is obvious Man U is his first choice. If and a big iff, he came to Everton he would be off if the chance to manage one of the so called big clubs came along no matter what his contract dictated. So personally would look at others.

Reference to new ground location. Any site at or close to the river needs to be looked at very carefully and to consider weather conditions seriously due to very windy weather down there and how it could affect pitch side.

16 May 2016 06:01:22
Can't wait for the summer now big hopes for us, I think we will shock a few pundits and teams. We have class players and the youngsters we have will do well.

Got no idea what manager we will get, but I will give him time like I did with rm.

Anyway it all starts from here.

16 May 2016 08:23:32
Everton 80/ 1 for title 2017, worth a punt, Leicester 28/ 1 can't see them getting anywhere near the top 4 next time due to sales and other clubs spending massively but who would have thought they would win this year, still can't get over how mad that is.

16 May 2016 08:58:16
Name these class players? Please don't say Barkley or Stones been found out big time.

16 May 2016 09:16:54
Imho Stones and Barkley are class players just mismanaged. Why do people insist on putting the players down? They carry out the instructions they are given and try their best. Even though the trying their best can be debatable this last month or so.

Change of manager with a number of plans not only one and proper management will see these players reach their potential. Its as simple as that for me.

Barkley I will never slate. He gets too much stick. He's a top lad and still very young. He's only a kid. Supporters nowadays don't seem happy unless they are giving out or putting down someone, anyone.

I have given out about RM but that was after 2 and a half years of reluctantly supporting him. What happened to supporters actually supporting the team?

Don't care how much they earn even though I think they earn far too much. If you call yourself a supporter then support the team. As I seen a post on here in the last couple of days. No matter who our new manager is I will support him even if I don't agree with who it is. Everyone needs to be given a chance.

If we continually slate our players, especially young home grown ones, no players will want to play for us. Rant over.

16 May 2016 09:51:00
Come on Al, Stones had no way of pushing on with RM in charge and Barkley was told to pass sideways or backwards and never tackle, to me that is reigning someone in, i'm pretty sure we will see things different with a new manager in charge, you could see a difference in Barkley on Sunday straight away, no looking behind him and running at their defence, imagine if the new manager told Barkley he had a free role, and when you lose the ball use that speed and power and go get the friggin ball back, he would be immense and we will see it next season.

16 May 2016 10:07:32
Anyone notice that Stones even with Roberto and his Staff's influence gone, could still not resist messing about with the ball in our area. I still say if we are to get the best out of this lad he has to move outside of the back four. He can tackle, he can run with the ball and he can spot a pass, tailor made for a Libero position in my view.

16 May 2016 10:30:09
Older posters on here will know that bringing youth players into a first team environment can be risky. Being a professional footballer takes great mental strength as much as skill, fitness etc. Older players know all the things to do and say off the ball to distract the younger ones. I remember reading stupid comments 2 years ago on here about Moyes holding Stones and Barkley back and Roberto giving them a chance. This was the same Moyes who gave Rooney his debut at 16 and Jose Baxter our youngest ever player his debut. I knew then that these comments were ridiculous. Anyway, so Roberto did make Barkley and Stones first choice in the positions he wanted. I watched with interest to see how they got on and I have to say that at times they both performed quite brilliantly. However, I also noted that they also had games were they were clearly "rattled" and when the crowd started turning on them I realised that Roberto had put too much weight on these very young shoulders. Yes certain players are strong and certain young players can overcome situations that develop to the point where being on the pitch is a heavy weight. I fully believe that both Stones and Barkley carried too much expectation this season. I saw both play very well at the higher level of international games, so I know it is about confidence, burden and other personality traites. Both are class but both need space and support. That is from their manager, their families and us fans!

16 May 2016 11:27:24
They both played well yesterday it would appear that on the surface anyway some pressure was lifted. I just fail to understand despite evidence to the contrary why/ how Roberto Martinez has this reputation as being one of the best young Managers around. Perhaps it is not Roberto at all and it is his choice of Staff, he did after all bring his Wigan Staff with him.