Everton Banter Archive May 15 2018

15 May 2018 23:02:59
So Watford have officially complained about Everton tapping up a manager they sacked 6 months ago.

15 May 2018 23:30:29
They haven't officially sacked him. He was on a sort of gardening leave and still is I think.

16 May 2018 06:23:14
Surely though Smit666 the fact that Watford have a new manager and not a caretaker or interim means that Silva will not be returning to his previous role and is therefore available, could be wrong as we don't know the ins and outs of payments etc, if he is still on their payroll and has a contract then yes but if his payments are just part of a severence then there is no employment contract. I think the tapping up complaint is regarding the original issue when we offered £12m in compensation as according to reports both clubs have been in mediation for the past 4 months trying to resolve the issue.

16 May 2018 06:54:11
As far as I understood Watford aren’t paying him out the rest of his contract so Silva is in a legal battle with them to get his remaining pay.

16 May 2018 07:20:19
and that will be what Watford want we will pay his contract up.

16 May 2018 09:38:10
Meanwhile, as always with any legal wrangling, it’s the lawyers who almost never miss out on a big fat fee.

16 May 2018 10:11:23
Sounds messy.

16 May 2018 11:07:52
Its actually ‘Messi’.

15 May 2018 22:44:48
Not saying i don't want Silva but if any of the top 6 clubs where without a manager would they ask Silva? Just asking 🤔.

16 May 2018 00:06:40
Another question is? If we were a top 6 club would we be looking at other managers? Yes.
It's all relevant to where we are. If we were top 6 we would be chasing Emery, Conte, Wenger, Tuchel, Ancelotti, Simeone and Zidane.

16 May 2018 07:11:27
As someone else said, we hire Silva (Martinez Mark II) play pretty pretty football and once the other Clubs work it out we start shipping goals once again. 2 or 3 months tops and the hard core 'sack him, get him out' element come to the fore once again. Like it or not Football is a results business, giving financial reward to it's investors and shareholders. Alardyce has fulfilled his brief and the Club finished in it's traditional position of 7th/ 8th I. E. The best of the rest. We need someone of Benitez experience or a Dyche, wind our necks in and allow them the Moyes longevity.

16 May 2018 15:01:14
So the answer is no?

15 May 2018 22:14:37
Not a revamp of the board a restructure.
What's everyone's thoughts on that?

15 May 2018 20:56:06
The merry go round has began Elstone has gone to rugby looks like all the rumours last couple week were right looking forward to tomorrow.

15 May 2018 21:25:53
I knew Elstone was going to rugby 6 weeks ago. The chairman's of all super League clubs voted him in. Worst kept secret ever. Now please announce Allerdyce has gone.

15 May 2018 21:26:15
What will we all do if Sam is given a three year extended contract?

15 May 2018 22:13:56
Move to a country where they don’t show Everton games.

15 May 2018 20:45:33
Personally I am not to excited by Silva his record isn't that great. For me I want a winner at our great club. I would like us to go for emery he did a good job at Seville and has just won the French league with psg and everyone was raving about him before he went there. Or fonseca they might be in easier leagues but they have experience of winning. So mr Morishie throw the cheque book at them or failing that go for rafa another winner comon sense to me surely 😊.

15 May 2018 21:00:42
Same here Tillie. Rafa commands respect for me. just can't see the fascination with Silva . the other point is that the players are just not good enough. bottom line.

15 May 2018 21:50:01
If I could put a link on here, I would put the Silva in training video here that is on YouTube, a breath of fresh air watching him interact with the players and even making the moves himself on the training pitch, stopping the players if they are not doing his instructions and going over it again with them.

I would take Silva without too much fuss.

15 May 2018 23:46:05
After what happened with Silva when he already had a job and we approached him then I don’t think that will happen again. If Silva is given the job, which I think will be a step in the right direction, then we have to all get behind him. Anything will be better than Sam!

16 May 2018 01:28:11
Bignev stick the link up seen plenty of links posted would love to see it mate.

16 May 2018 15:02:25
Dunno if this is the same one bignev.

15 May 2018 20:29:55
People think we should be aiming higher than Silva. Unfortunately most of those higher managers will be aiming higher than us. We have a choice of getting someone in early and giving him time to plan for next season, or wait until after the World Cup and see which of these so called higher managers are still available. If The board believe Silva is the right man then go for option one. If not take a big gamble and wait, although that would only get the fans moaning about not doing anything as happened while we were waiting for Koeman.

{Ed025's Note - the fans will moan whoever we get rick..

15 May 2018 22:04:31
When allardyce is gone the next manager needs 3yrs. regardless of how good or bad first season is. I for one will keep my lips sealed for the next man. never wanted allardyce near the club. he's has to go.

15 May 2018 18:45:08
It’s a managerial merry go round! Spin the wheel and see who we get!
Main things is Sam being gone not sure I can listen to anymore of his rubbish.

15 May 2018 17:15:08
Being reported on S S N that the Everton board meeting is going on this afternoon in London and Big Sam will get his marching orders in the morning when he meets Mr Moshiri, will like winning the pools lol.

15 May 2018 20:38:31
Our normal position in the league missed by one GB and that in an awful season. Big Sam goes then who do we bring in? Silva being touted and for me that is a huge mistake because come Christmas yet again a head will seek to be rolled. There is nothing in Silva's CV (Premiership) to suggest he can get us anywhere near yet alone maintain the position we finished in this Season. In short with our apparent financial clout we should be aiming for someone like Benitez, give him the funds and a measure of control and watch us go.

15 May 2018 14:35:30
The guy hasn't even been appointed and is already being criticised. Does nobody think about context? People like Dyche, Howe and Silva run down because they've not win anything with Burnley, Bournemouth and Hull! No manager would win anything with those clubs. The exception, if you remember, was Martinez! What happened to looking for potential, having patience, giving the new man (if there is one) a chance to build something. Between us and West Ham and Arsenal fans, Fonseca must be itching to leave Shaktar.

15 May 2018 16:22:53
Would be nice to have a manager with a track record of winning things, rather than another one with a track record of being relegated!

15 May 2018 16:39:42
For all those saying what has Silva ever done, look at the guy's record. Estoril: 10th in the 2nd division when he took over, 4th in the 1st division when he left; Sporting Lisbon: won their first trophy in 7 years in his one season with them; Olympiacos: won the league by February, earlier than any club ever had, and with a record points difference; Hull: bottom of the league when he took over, beat Man U and Liverpool and only relegated by 1 point; Watford: finished 17th before he joined, 5th when Everton approached - their highest league position since 1987 and still 10th when they sacked him, dropped a further 4 places after he went. The guy improves clubs' league positions and plays decent football. He works with players and builds their confidence. I never wanted Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce (read my posts) but Silva is a good fit for us.

{Ed025's Note - i like your way of thinking coyb..

15 May 2018 17:29:31
Those are very positive stats coyb. Whilst improving us won’t be all that hard for anyone right now, I am looking forward to an improved style of play. If Silva can sort that then I’m happy to get 100% behind him. I just want us to start showing something that matches the level of investment that’s been put into the team.

Better not bitter.

15 May 2018 18:17:10
I have to say that in terms of tactics Silva is better than the likes of Dyche, Howe, and others being banded about. Be honest given where we are, we are not going to get a highly successful CL or EL manager, but what we will get is a man with good tactical knowledge of the game. We should not judge him on what he did at clubs with less spending power than us, although given what he had at his disposal, I think he did well. If we get him then I will back him. The problem is will the board? It is they who seem to cause the problems. Get him in, give him his chance, back him with a bloody good DOF, improve the squad, and let him go get us some success.

15 May 2018 14:23:43
I said when we was linked months ago with silva i don't want him i personally think its a downfall if we get him there are more proven mangers out ther.

15 May 2018 12:49:16
Just read an interesting article on Onyekuru. According to a close friend Anderlecht age intentionally no played him since his return despite him being fit to increase there chances of getting him back next season.

He wasn't included in nigerias provisional squad so it currently looks unlikely that he will be playing for us at the moment : (

It's a shame tbh as he looks a real talent. Him on one side with lookman or Walcott on the other would be a real force.

15 May 2018 15:04:59
Well if I was everton I'd loan him out to another team and in there league so he will go against them.

15 May 2018 10:55:43
I'm surprised that there's so much excitement around Silva and Fonseca - one was sacked due to an underperforming team and one is untested. Rafa, if available, is a no brainier. Eddie Howe too seems to have been forgotten about. Why? He plays the football we all crave and will be able to attract the players to improve us, more so than at Bournemouth. If we want to aim really high, get on the blower to Ancellotti!

15 May 2018 11:08:16
Eddie Howe is like Martinez for me attractive football but leek goal and he has had doe to spend so not for me . As for Silva Watford was flying but changed when we can in for him so it is what it is but surely he can attract better players than Howe aswel.

15 May 2018 12:03:55
Weve had Allardyce for what seems like the last 6 years. I'd take Silver the lone rangers horse at this point.

15 May 2018 13:15:05
Here we go again. People are against a manager who hasn't even got the job yet. God help him if he doesn't wn his first 3 games.

15 May 2018 14:23:54
baffles me how people can be so negative before anybody has been appointed it's it's Silva or fonseca he gets my full support end off we have just basically got our own way and got rid of Sam the next appointment needs our full support nothing Less.

15 May 2018 15:08:48
It's the way of things now, got abit of money now we have to win the league straight away, No one manager is good enough no player seems good enough, we are everton, in 8th position and a long long way behind the top 4, who ever comes in will be slated just because everyone loves to moan.

15 May 2018 08:56:36
My preference is Fonseca, I'd take Emery as 2nd choice Silva 3rd. Any of you Ed's have a preference.

{Ed001's Note - why not try for Nagelsmann? Everyone else is looking at his age and being put off.}

15 May 2018 09:59:47
Great shout that ed. Looks really good manager. Just wonder if he going to try stay where he is and build that side.

{Ed001's Note - won't know if you don't ask.}

15 May 2018 10:17:59
I put a post about this last week and I don't have a clue why he doesn't seem to be high on a target list but Silva is?

His record is brilliant and seems to tick all the boxes. My opinion is he would be one of very few managers that the fans could unite under.

15 May 2018 12:06:37
Is it a good idea to have a manager whos younger than most of our squad?

15 May 2018 14:04:49
It is if he knows what he's doing. Doing well with hoffenhiem (I think) . Similar to when Eddie Howe got Bournemouth job the first time. Was only very young in management terms. Even Kenny when he got the player managers job across the park and won trophies.
Just like players, it should be if you are good enough then you are old enough.

15 May 2018 04:52:18
Reading Fonseca held talks at West Ham chairman's mansion. I will be seriously disappointed if we lose out to that mob.

15 May 2018 06:20:11
To be honest with you mate if look at it he has no affiliation with either club. At the Moment unfortunately West Ham are probably a more attractive proposition with the new stadium and being located in London.

15 May 2018 08:18:07
But alsways finish below us sir and we habe a owner who gives money to spend unlike the other 2 clowns and are going places with the right appointment west ham are a team going no where . And they don't even own the ground they rent off the council 😂.

15 May 2018 08:19:52
Fonseca is good in Europe and Russia but this the premier league so who nos am saying towards Silva as premier experience and only lost his job as head seated by us but who nos what will happen were Everton exciting times and anything's better than the other fella.

15 May 2018 08:21:55
he has turned them down according to ironmike on the West ham page who is pretty much in the know about all things West ham.