Everton Banter Archive May 13 2013

13 May 2013 23:23:10
Mancini sacked! Ok mr whelan let's see now you keep saying certain clubs are not big enough for Martinez well the top 3 teams will have different managers next season one job already gone if Chelsea or man city don't come in for him then there are not many more clubs higher than us, I think if we offer him the job he will jump at the chance as he may just miss the boat, what odds would you of got on the top 3 prem clubs replacing managers at end of this season it's unbelievable just a sham moyes has gone as what has happened moyes could of cracked top 4 next year with his prem knowledge but not to be Martinez will be approached in next few days as long as they don't win at arsenal

My thoughts exactly. if man c and Chelsea don't come in. then where else is he going to go. spurs, arsenal, look. I highly doubt it! But as chinny use to say its a funny old game. jlaff

13 May 2013 22:00:12
VACANCY Moyse say it should be someone with more experience than he had because we are further down the road. and if Bill listens to him which he does, his recommedndation will probably be someone he knows and likes with a strong work ethic. that takes us probably to homegrown talent with premier league experience. allowing for his slip at Sunderland. that might edge us towards Oneill (not my choice) or Martinez. Hughes made too many glaring errors at QPR, Benitez is a non-starter. When Rodgers left Swansea, Laudrup came out of nowhere, but somehow I can't see the new man being an unknown quantity, or coming from abroad.

13 May 2013 21:48:37
Not seen much of him last few weeks, but Gueye was really good for Brestois for a couple of games. I've always liked him, but most people want to sell him it seems on here.

Thought he joined Brest

Stade Brestois is the full name of the club.

13 May 2013 21:14:15
Ed any truth in these takeover rumours? Also
Any news on honda or is that a dead deal now?

Blueboy88 {Ed025's Note - i would be guessing mate, i heard he was in talks, but who its with i dont know...same with the honda situation, he was a moyes pick, now hes not here anymore, and i imagine the new guy will want to pick his own targets mate..

13 May 2013 20:39:18
wish people would stop with the benitez crap the guy would love to be asked just so he could turn us down in spectacular fashion and call us a small club don't give him the opportunity BK have people on here got short memorys or what wise up!!

13 May 2013 20:06:48
So Porto beat Benfica to pretty much win the title in the Liga Portuguese. Do you think that Vitor Pereira may be more likely to join us ed as he may think that he has done all he can in Portugal and join us or do you think that he may want to sign a new contract at Porto and build on his team. He is my personal choice because he is young and plays some good attacking football plus he would be free.

EvertonMike {Ed025's Note - i think he would be interested mike, but i dont know if BK would be interested in him mate..

13 May 2013 19:46:49
Ed do you think putting an ad for MUTV at the top of this page is slightly taking the p*** this week?!
Mushy {Ed025's Note - we dont decide on the ads mushy, they are put on to reflect what you have been browsing mate...not a closet united fan are you? :)

Sir, I will meet you at dawn (and bring pistols)for that one!
Everton Mushy {Ed025's Note - sorry mate..could,nt resist..

13 May 2013 18:56:22
Sunday showed what a nice, friendly, family club we have. we win no trophies but we nice and everyone around the country likes us. Now it appears we're going to get a nice manager to pal up again with our nice chairman and if so we'll continue to be trapped in the 'comfort zone' of niceness (even Moysey admitted that not once in 11 years did Bill question his descisions, is there anyone reading this who has never been challenged by their boss?
Oh God please! Was it Alice Cooper who sang 'No More Mr. Nice Guy'? let's get someone in who will take on the board and stop this perpetual acceptance of 'we're punching above our weight' and that all our best players will ultimately end up in red. then again Turkeys don't vote for Christmas so I guess it's Wigan's Mr. Nice Guy.
(No disrespect to Martinez, he is a good man but not a man to take us to the level that we need).
I will be gutted if this happens as will many others on this site.
And while I'm on one, why has no one asked Ringo to buy us out?
Mushroom Man

13 May 2013 17:36:21
Why would anyone want Paul McCartney to buy the club?

13 May 2013 18:36:41
I am a friend of one of the board members at efc & I am led to believe that kenright is seriously considering 'rafa Benitez' as manager with Stubbs or big dunc as no. 2 to appease any disgruntled evertonians.
I think this would be really good move for everton as rafa is a superb tactician, has won cups, would be great developing our youth academy at the club, & also his family live in the city. He has also come out today & said he wants to stay managing in england as his family live here & the premiership is the best league. as our vacancy is the only one available - this could be a sign that bill has already been in contact.

I take raffa, very good manager wins trophies he is best available option to take us to next level imo

How long do u think moyes will have a honeymoon period at utd. I fear for him mourhino will target him and all this longevity goes out of window if they don't win anythink. the glaziers are businessmen not utd fans its all about the stock market with them, chelsea for the league next year me thinks

Cant tell you how I get my info but believe me rafa is going to be the next manager of everton his odds have been slashed from 50-1 to 8-1 in the space of 5 hours today check it out if you done believe me I've got £20 on at 16-1 missed the early prices as I was in work and couldn't get a bet on

After the game yesterday the way we played and then what Rafa has said about wanting to say in the premier league but not at chelsea

where else is there?

More chance of him going to city now

Pellegrini is the new manager of City. says it's a done deal, and he knows his 'onions'. If he says it's done, it's done.

13 May 2013 16:53:43
Benn flicking trough the recent posts and seem no one thinks BK will be looking for a new manager until end of the season but I would think we need to start looking now and be ready to appoint at the end or at least a couple of weeks after so the new man can plan for next season and get some deals done so i'd give it 3 weeks tops before we see the new man in. by the way i'm for Martinez :)

13 May 2013 16:09:34
"They will never be as good as they were in the 80s when they won things but I think if you look since the Premier League started how many top-10 finishes we have had it has improved. " That seems to be a telling quote from the outgoing manager. Does it suggest he doesn't see us ever getting the investment to make us rivals to Manchester United? I was delighted with the Moyse reception, but it is now on and upwards and I would love to see Bill K with the the smile of a "trophy won" on his face. Please let someone see the West Ham game footage and realise what a great thing it is to be an Evertonian, and that our dreams don't extend only as far as top four. we want the lot. and don't want a league title to be just a pipedream. other clubs have wasted huge amounts of money buying the wrong players. just someone give Everton a chance to rise to greater heights. no one should accept that we will never be the champions of Europe one day. No dream, no fight!
Oscar

13 May 2013 15:41:54
Anyone claiming to have seen managerial candidates at Goodison Park or Finch Farm must be a wind-up merchant or just plain wrong. Aside from what BK said quite clearly about waiting until the end of the season, any opening discussions for now would surely be over the telephone (to begin with), or in London (where BK has his business offices), or somewhere in secret. The idea that anyone would appear in plain view at this stage is preposterous IMHO.

13 May 2013 15:25:32
can we please tone down the wild speculation about potential managers seen at goodison, and others holding talks. Kenwright said after yesterdays game, he won't be rushing into an appointment, he will wait to the end of the season and then give people a clearer idea of where we are in the process and what direction we will be taking. Effectively until then, there is no-one having talks. Also I think Baines will stay, he loves everton, but I do think we will lose Mirrallas

Lose Mirallas after 1 season? I just can't see it myself. Not unless someone offers silly money and I don't think he has put himself on that level just yet.

13 May 2013 15:12:06
I know u may think not a chance in hell, but I think Moyes will be back within 4 years

Rich84

I wouldn't be surprised to see him back at some point as our manager

13 May 2013 14:36:22
Martinez will be getting the job with Alan Stubbs promoted to his assistant then Sheedy and Ferguson both promoted likewise up the Everton ladder. That is not mr claiming to know. That just seems the most realistic and in my opinion best option for us. I would be very happy with that but would prefer Ferguson his assistant. Also if your one of the people asking for Benitez to be our new boss and you think this would be a good idea you seriously need to have a word with yourself.

Tell you what, you explain the thinking behind your views on Benitez, the I'll explain the thinking behind mine. Deal?

Tell you what, you explain the thinking behind your views on Benitez, the I'll explain the thinking behind mine. Deal?

13 May 2013 14:13:49
rafa with stubbs as number 2 kop mob would be seething. open your minds and get behind it.

Mate, I'm backing the raffa bid!.

It hurts to say it mate. but Rafa ticks ALL the boxes! In terms of experience & also knowledge of foreign players etc he leaves the rest miles behind. We sould not let our hearts rule our heads if we really do want Everton to progress over the longterm and be able to compete at the top level every season. As stated it chokes me as a lifelong Blue for over 45years but you can't argue over the mans credentials. his only fault. he managed the Red S****! Would you rather have Mark Hughes, Malky Mackay, Neil Lennon etc? Our Backroom staff ex players are not experienced enough & would defo need a top Coach to work with them. I don't envy Bill Kenwrights massive task. Street End Boy

13 May 2013 14:00:59
Has anyone else read what Benitez has said today? Is that him putting himself forward for the job?

Also being from Wigan I'm already sick of hearing Martinez wouldn't leave an FA cup winning side for us, surely he has some ambition!

13 May 2013 12:27:47
Having second thoughts on Martinez.

Got a few years experience now and has done well at wigan

Plays attactive football

Will be able to work with smaller budget

Handles himself well whenever he is interviewed.

Look at how many relegated teams in the premiership the past few years have english / british managers.

Foreign is the way forward. Laudrup and the new fella at southhampton doing well as is AVB.

He has probly spent more money at Wigan than what moyes has spent in the same time, has any got these figures for us I'm curious

He has fought relagation for 3 years and if you a classing finally going down as 'doing well' then I suppose you're right Martinez must be the way to go!

According to a report by Deloitte. since 2003 wigans nett spend is under £8 million.
Evertons is around £38 million and Chelsea almost £600 million.
I think this a fairly accurate estimation.

stewillow

You have also got to consider the fact that moyes has sold to buy better players and are budgets are actually very similar

13 May 2013 11:37:09
good send off for moyes yesterday and nice little send off for neville and cahill too. however I loved how we showed moyes that although he is off, we are still everton and we will survive and we are bigger than he is. thought mirillas played well yesterday (if fit he could have a real good season next season), thought pienaar played well too, as well as coleman and jags. thought the only players below par were osman and anichebe, but the others were so good it never mattered. we really showed our club in a great way yesterday with the eyes of the world on us and moyes. not particularly fond of martinez as new manager, however I loved his tactics and his attacking intent vs city. plus he still has in no way committed himself to wigan next year. pretty convince he is our new manager. just waiting til end of season to announce it because we are a team of class and won't disrupt another teams season or resort to naming other clubs small! VERY PROUD EVERTONIAN

1878barlow

13 May 2013 11:01:06
So many posters are anticipating the big TV money swelling our transfer funds, but how much of that will really be available? I'm concerned that we have borrowed money in the past (to keep the club going) and used various sources of future income as collateral and now we've got to the point when some of that future income has arrived and will have to be used to repay - or refinance - a lot of that debt. Until we have other sources of higher commercial income besides the TV money, we'll struggle to compete with those clubs that do. A modern stadium that provides more matchday income is absolutely vital.

13 May 2013 10:44:19
Whatever Dave Whelan's comments about the size of Everton, he also definitely said that when Martinez does tell him he wants to leave Wigan, then he would release him immediately. Does that mean he wouldn't want compensation?

13 May 2013 10:02:23
Hi all fellow blues, am new to this, just thought I'd give my shout on who I'd like to see manage our amazing football club. klinsmann is the man for me. really feel he could take us to the next level

Slaven Bilic for me. Ticks most of the boxes

Dog Puke Peter

The next level - you mean the Championship?
That's the division I'm fearing - not the league title.

The championship?The title?. I just said the next level ie europe consistently!be positive man!

13 May 2013 09:28:23
so proud to see so many blues asking for Rafa. can't imgine the other side doing the same in this situation and think it would really gut them too, let's sign him

Please don't. Never liked the bloke as a manager and don't want him as ours PLEASE.

13 May 2013 09:17:07
Why is it so insane that Rooney would want to come back?Ok he's on 200k per week, does he need the money? No has he won the title? Yes, Champions league?Yes Does he want to play for Everton again?Yes, Could he make the difference to push us into top 4? Yes, Could he survive on a paltry 75k per week? Yes, so at the end of the day, why not, surely he would want to do himself and the club justice and not come back as a 33yr old has been.!

People going on about Rooneys wages are missing the big picture. he's a cash cow that's why ferguson gave him that bumber deal because of the money he generates to utd, u imagine the profile this would give to everton on Rooneys return. any worthwhile board would make easily 10 million a year in commercial deals if not more. we have to think bigger would Rooney helps us into top 4, a good chance, meaning more money. ita deal worth chasing.

"any worthwhile board would make easily 10 million a year in commercial deals if not more"

lol you said it all

I'm with you on this one mate. The problem with our club, they wouldn't know what to do with a cash cow if it came along and bit them on the arse.

13 May 2013 09:05:13
Any one this man sneaking under the radar.

Jurgen Klinsmann
14/1

13 May 2013 07:16:03
Dave whealan at it again mouthing off, I hope Wigan go down feel sorry for supporters but don't slate everton. We are Everton and when we get some financial backing the giant will wake and then we will see, mr whealan, you can try and convince who ever you want we are not a big club and your right, we are MASSIVE, know across the world

Jc

13 May 2013 02:02:00
The way we played against west ham there must be a few managers dreaming of managing us brilliant football!

Not every team will be as non-competitive as West Ham were. We were very good and played some lovely stuff, but they were definitely already "on the beach" apart from their goalkeeper.

13 May 2013 01:11:39
On motd gary linekar asked malkey mackay if he would want the everton job yes or no and he said ask michael laudrup if he wants it so in other words he didn't say no and i'm not saying we should go for him or anything i'm just saying maybe he would like to if we offered him the chance

Every current manager would surely reply diplomatically - usually about "being flattered to be linked", but also saying something like they "enjoy their current job and are focused on that". Even those currently out of work would be very restrained - at least in public and on the record - and not want to appear desperate.

1st reply-Unless your name happens to be Mark Hughes :)

13 May 2013 00:36:41
God bless moyes,
What he's done for our
Beloved blues will always be in our history and our hearts, promote from within, Duncan or Stubbs for me, once a blue always a blue! Coyb

13 May 2013 01:51:11
I agree am waiting for that too dave whelan sayin we are not big enough for him hahha really you are getting relegated

Dan The Man

12 May 2013 23:37:53
There has been money for Jurgen Klinsmann

Hasn't he got enough money already?