Everton Banter Archive July 13 2011

13 Jul 2011 21:52:24
We need to offload the dead wood before moyes gets any money. We have to keep the core quality of the team the baines, heitinga, fellaini arteta etc of this world if we are going to stay in the top half of the table {Ed025's Note - i would be interested to hear your opinion of the dead wood....im sure we all have our own opinions!..

Not hard to guess, Yak, Yobo, Anichebe {Ed025's Note - for me...they certainly come under the heading of...dutch elm..

Their movement around the pitch echos a dutch elm

You could possibly add heitinga to that list, he would have a good value in the transfer market. Thats unless moyes sees him as a long term replacement to distin

13 Jul 2011 22:05:36
we need players what do you think we should buy ed ? {Ed025's Note - a hitman...for our board of directors..

Good shout ed

13 Jul 2011 21:27:28
what is the most worrying thing at present is that clubs like sunderland spend 20k + even wolves and stoke are spending 12.k + and DM had stated he wanted to do our business early but we are dependant on Yak and Yobo goin, the problem is yobo deal is current dead because of the turkish match fixing scandal and No one is in for yak, do we have no other funds? why not swap loan deal yak for scott parker and sell or swap deal yobo here maybe for Vela ? {Ed025's Note - i like your shout, over parker & vela...but we will do ok, even if we dont sign anyone!..

13 Jul 2011 20:59:24
We all know that we need a striker, we all know that we need a wide player, considering current market values, Young, Downing, Henderson; even young players with potential such as Connor Wickham, we are probably looking at upwards of £30 million for two players.

10 mill on a winger and a striker on loan is all we need.

Im not even sure we need anything. Beckford will come good next season me thinks, and we also have forwards that can come on and make an impact. wideplayers. Gueye will hopefully be good on the left next season. I dont know about anyone else, but i think we need squad players. you know those who can cover when we get our yearly crasis we have players to cover. what do you think ed? {Ed025's Note - i would like a striker...we play some lovely stuff at times, but with no end result...becks will come good this season...and if we have a bit of quality along side him...we could be the surprise package..

13 Jul 2011 20:33:50
the silence on signings is deafening. is anyone at the club going to let us know whats going on?? {Ed025's Note - i doubt it

13 Jul 2011 18:30:40
got message from a mate in london who is a gooner, he has stated that the Jags for arsenal rumours are spreading like wildfire, apparently Wenger is keen to sign him & a bid is likely, cant see EFC turning it down as we need the cash cos we are skint, I blame BK & I can see the reds coming in for Baines aswell cant really blame the lad if he wants to go cos it dont look good for us does it, lets face it there are clubs that finished below us have more financial clout than us, I can only see one way for us & thats down......

up the toffee's

Joe King {Ed025's Note - i cant see them going anywhere....under moysey...they have gone from obscurity....to regular england internationals.....and also my friend....the only way for us, is forward..

We turned 15 mil down last season, i doubt the offer will get higher and i doubt Moyes will budge on his future captain. If anything, Moyes will sell a big player if he has to, and i would guess it would be Rodwell since the impact of him going would be felt as much as Jags, Baines, Felli (when fit) or Arteta (when on form)

SteveBiggert {Ed025's Note - its hard to argue with that..

Jagelka will be everton caption one day and as for moving to the norwegians, i doubt it, jags likes taking points off the dirty reds in the derby too much to leave

Agreed Ed, I live just outside of London with a few mates who are gooners and the only rumour being spread re this story is by the Metro, who incidently, rarely get a story right. I suspect our friend (above) has some Gooner mates who are pulling his chain (at least I hope they are) {Ed025's Note - me too..

13 Jul 2011 17:34:43
Just putting this out there to get peoples opinions.............. Evertonians have short memories it was only 3 seasons ago that the yak scored 24 goals in one season. The season after he scored 5 goals in the first 8 games then was injured for a year, when he came back in the 2009/2010 season he was unfit and needed matches which he didn't get, if you look at the stats though he scored 6 goals in 16 games that season. Last season i think something went on behind the scenes maybe his attitude in training or something ? He only got a chance in october and november last season where he started 5 games on the spin, scored one made 2 assists and got man of the match against liverpool in the goodison derby. Then when saha came back from injury the yak was back on the bench Killing his confidence and match sharpness again.
Then moyes put him out on loan to leicester, i know its only the championship but 11 goals from 19 games speaks for itself. I know he's not everyone's favourite player and i totally agree that he can be lazy but with games and a full pre season behind him for the first time in 2 years the yak will score goals
Were after a proven prem goal scorer who is not old yakubu is still 28 and can score goals, there you go We do need another striker definatly but the yak for me should be kept even if its just for one more season. We should have 4 strikers though..... the yak, beckford, saha and maybe shane long or someone in that price region. Don't know what everyone else thinks but just thought i would share
Paul EFC {Ed025's Note - paul...i respect your opinion and early on in his everton career,i thought he was great! but he seems to have developed an attitude.....everton supporters do not suffer fools gladly.....and wont take to a player, who they think is not giving 100%, we spend our hard earned cash following the blues, and anyting less than total commitment....just will not be tolerated...

I agree the yak can score giving he has fitness and sharpness and a full pre season and he is still only 28
I think something did happen because he was in the team playing well at one point last season then all of a sudden he was benched and didn't even get on as a sub for ages then was loaned out.
He is a goalscorer and maybe with beckford or a shane long type player doing all the running for him he will score.
Also though i agree with ed his attitude in some games last season was dreadful and we expect total commitment even if things aren't going your way, look at the reception anichebe got against man city last season when we won 2-1 at goodison. Didn't play brillliant but his work rate and commitment was first class, thats all we want {Ed025's Note - you have it in 1....we blues appreciate endeavour, and commitment..and will settle for nothing less..

It will be interesting to see if we use yak and yobo in the pre season games and what reception they got from the blues, both of them fell out of favour because of their attitude. {Ed025's Note - yobo will get a different reception to the yak..he has publicly trashed the name of the club...he will reap what he has sown...

Rather have the yak than saha who always injured, anichebe is lazy, cant wait for season to start to see us competing for top 4 place..............

up the toffee's

Joe King {Ed025's Note - thanks for this post...mr....YAKUBU

Looks like we wont be getting a top forward in so why not give him another go.can mind the game against liverpool last season and he was outstanding.hopefully he can knuckle down and start scoring goals for us again {Ed025's Note - never say never

I have to say you make a good point. He didn't get a chance last season and i do remember him playing well for a few games and getting sharper then all of a sudden he was on the bench and wasn't even getting subbed in What we have to remember though is that moyes see's the players day in day out in training and he may have compared yakubu's attitude to saha's and thought saha deserves to start and then the yak ended up getting loaned out. Its a fact though that the yak knows where the net is and maybe just maybe if he gets a good pre season gets himself in shape and shows a good attitude he could be a valuable striker this season because your right he can score We still need another striker though regardless even if the yak stays we need 4 strikers if you look at the top clubs they all have 4 strikers......... id be happy if it was saha, beckford, the yak and long or defoe or just anyone ha ha. {Ed025's Note - i think we are all singing from the same hymn sheet..

Yakubu and beckford could work. They didn't play upfront together at all last season. No harm in pre season in giving them a try {Ed025's Note - im sure david will give it a try...after all...if anyone can...moysey can..

Some good points here about yakubu he is a proven goalscorer but he does need to show his commitment to the blue shirt, it's annoying because we all know what he is capable off.

13 Jul 2011 16:13:48
why is it almost conpletely silent on the press front from everton at the end of the season moyes said he wanted to make early signings and yet not heard a word?? either were skint and there burying there heads in the sand or theres the other reason it could be the takeover rumours were true and maybe were going through the due dilligence stage?? {Ed025's Note - i dont think we have much money...so i think moyes is waiting for other clubs to set their stalls out in the hope of getting a player who is surplus to requirements at another club on the cheap....i dont like it...but we will have to live with it...

Cos we aint got no money you fool, who in the right mind is gonna try & buy a second rate club like ours, grand-dad Bill is never gonna sell he is takin you down

We won't go down especially as the mereyside derbies are a guaranteed six points. Kenny for the sack, avram grant in the anfield hotseat to put the norwegians in the championship. Spot the scouser on the kop

13 Jul 2011 15:54:36
come on guys whats with all the doom and gloom here. ok so we have no money lets be realistic here we never have any money so there is no point in dwelling on it, remeber when we finished 4th our two main signings were tim cahill from division 2 milwall and marcus bent our team is much stronger now than it was back then. get off BK's back he is a die hard evertonian and is as frustrated as we are, the fingers need to be pointed to the board members with so much more money than bill who do nothing. the problem last season wasnt the lack of signings it was the poor form of the current players i think 4th is certainly asking too much of the boys but i think top six and a path back into europe would mean that bit more money for moyes to pull off bargain deals like he has with cahill arteta pienarr etc
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Moyes certainly knows a bargain (cahill, neville, arteta, beckford, jagielka etc ) He has always worked on a budget since his north end days. He is good at wheeling and dealing and getting the best out of his players, whoever we sign i expect us to be top 8 comfortable again, hopefully better {Ed025's Note - i agree with most of it...except the top 8 shout....we are a big club...and our aim should be europe..at least..

I think part of our problem is aiming for 5-7th. Half of sport is psychological. We should start the season aiming to win the league. With our best 11 out we can beat anyone. Look at the team - good players from front to back. ManUtd go out each year aiming for the top - so when they have 10 minutes left on a game and only drawing or even losing they pull out everything to get a win becasue they know they need to win. If we go out aiming for 6th then we will onloy put in the effort to make 6th. Aim for the top and try - REALLY TRY - to win every game, the same as the other top clubs do.
coyb
mike {Ed025's Note - mike..i really like this post, i agree with everything you say...we are a big club, and we should be competing for the top honours...so i say to david and the team....nil desperandum carberundum.....dont let the bas*ards grind you down..

13 Jul 2011 15:18:35
Please if anyone out there now if we are going to sign someone soon

Don't hold your breath. A good winger and a striker on loan. Kranjcar for 8 mill and wellbeck on loan, would be my bets. That would give us a chance of challenging for 6th place especially if the youngsters step up to the mark next season {Ed025's Note - i would settle for that..

13 Jul 2011 10:45:13
The one player I'm personally disappointed we didn't go for was David Vaughan. Out of contract, low wages, Blackpool's key player last year.I've resorted to hoping the young players will step up big time... Gueye, Baxter, Vellios, Barkley etc...

I agree about david vaughan but i think that their isn't much value for money at the moment. Is there anyone in particular that you would of liked which we could of attracted if we had the money? I can't think of anyone. There are a lot of average players going for over the top prices, i prefer we sign quality not quantity, otherwise stick with what we have got.

13 Jul 2011 09:52:11
Lewis holtby is defo a bluenose, was interviewed a few mths ago saying that it would be a dream of his to play for everton someday Goal scoring midy playing for scalke I think. Moved to germany with his dad in the forces Check him on u tube Coyb

13 Jul 2011 05:07:10
it could be the case that we have the money to spend but moyes isn't letting on he has any money at all?
it would mean he could conduct business without people watching very closely cause if he said he had lets say £30 million to spend everyone would be looking at everton to see who they are after? {Ed025's Note - 30 m.....??...with BK at the helm.......more like...30p

I think we will sign someone for defensive cover for under 5 mill, a stirker on loan and the rest of whatever budget we have on a winger, maybe kranjcar. I really don't think we have the budget to do anything else

13 Jul 2011 02:29:27
about time yobo showed some respect and gratitude. not only is he very well paid, but when his brother was kidknapped everton moved mountains to help him, time off, and cash advance and hostage negotator and private investigator. well jo, it's pay back time, either mend your fences with moyes, or agree a move that will help the club, time to man up. p.s your remarks about playing for a competative team, now seem a bit odd if they bought there title. {Ed025's Note - well said....great post..

Great post mate, so often football players forget their role and who put them there

12 Jul 2011 22:10:02
Ok boys heres the story Nzogbia will sign for about 13 mil followed by 2 more big signings that are being worked on I dont know who the other 2 are but nzogbia is defo going to happen {Ed025's Note - lets hope so

Ye ye ye look there's a big flyin

How do u know this??

I think he probably woke up with a good feeling, thats where most these rumours come from. I keep on trying to say we only need a forward and left back cover. If we keep coleman at right mid for the start and play Gueye on the left we will be fine. Or like people have been saying arteta could play on the right

12 Jul 2011 22:51:10
Why are we posting rumours of buying players when we clearly have no money ?? We are on a downward spiral if we cannot get investment into our club...... its very worrying when there is only silence from an ineffective board..... P Lyons {Ed025's Note - you obviously...have your head screwed on...but have faith, in the messiah......we,ll do ok..