13 Dec 2016 23:45:58
100% better. barley bust a gut, lukaku wanted to know. if we do that every week I'll be a happy blue. Bit of confidence now going in to the derby.
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Everton Banter Archive December 13 2016
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13 Dec 2016 23:04:32
Well done to the lads tonight but what was done tonight that's made us play that way why can't we do it every week? Was it the formation? Had the players been told off? God I hope RK remembers to do it again . well done blues.
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13 Dec 2016 23:19:03
Well done Gents, best team on the night won.
We dealt with your forwards and midfield, but not your defence.
Baines cross, Coleman finish.
Baines corner (I think) , Williams finish.
Baines goal line clearance.
Goodison rocks under floodlights.
Respect.
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{Ed025's Note - cheers dags, i think the corner was ross mate..
14 Dec 2016 00:13:18
Ed,
Add Ross to my hit list 😄.
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14 Dec 2016 08:27:10
Fair play Dags for coming on and taking it. Pity your manager can't do the same. I thought he had got better in recent seasons but he was on about the referee again last night! He sounds like a 5 year old. "I am taking my ball home! " . when the other kid scores a goal! lol I suspect you will hammer us next game after Koeman wound him up with his comments!
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14 Dec 2016 08:37:27
Wenger does make excuses mate, he should learn to take the on the chin.
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14 Dec 2016 09:17:47
Or if he had a genuine complaint about a really poor decision. That I would understand. But every game there are those which are borderline decisions and if my memory serves me right. the one he was complaining about was the previous corner which was saved by your keeper. then we took the next one and scored. So how many decisions back does he want to go. I am sure there was a throw in in the first half that should have gone our way! lol. Seriously, I did wonder whether it was a goal kick or a corner, but your defence then had 2 opportunities to clear it but didn't so to come on and blame the ref. He also said he got decisions wrong in other games so expect another fine for him. I wonder if he can afford it? Anyway I saw a post on FB saying the best last minute in a Premier Game. If I was Wenger, I would be saying it was a great game and we nearly got something out of it at the end. I hate to admit this, but Klopp at our biggest rivals would be saying something similar. The guy just oozes charm and respect. But that's enough of my admissions!
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14 Dec 2016 23:13:50
Thanks dags. Would also add in defence of wenger he stayed on the touchline and shuck hands with all our players, first time ive ever seen him do that. Has he got the xmas spirit or is it a farewell to goodison.
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13 Dec 2016 22:32:09
Gotta mention Stecckers in goal for that last minute of chaos. He came and got a haand on a couple of crosses and it would have been easy for him to stay on his line. Who knows what the outcome would have been then? He has had some stick recently so I am pleased for him.
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13 Dec 2016 23:21:23
After rewatching that last minute (I was in the Lower Gwladys so it was a bit of a blur) I may have to change the 5 I gave Stekelenburg to a 6!
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13 Dec 2016 22:22:42
As i said in my last post best fans in the world the fans won us the game tonite behind them all the way from 1-0 down. Get in 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆.
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{Ed025's Note - they just needed something to excite them callum and they got that in spades tonight mate..
14 Dec 2016 07:03:06
That is how we used to be for years and years, the previous 3 seasons the fans were always quiet. All that needs to be behind us now.
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13 Dec 2016 22:22:42
As i said in my last post best fans in the world the fans won us the game tonite behind them all the way from 1-0 down. Get in 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆.
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13 Dec 2016 22:21:32
I don't think James McCarthy gets the credit he deserves for us. I know he offers very little going forward, but tonight, and often against the big teams in our league, I thought he was quality, pressing all over the park and really getting the fans going. Hope he has persuaded Koeman that he is worth keeping at Goodison, far too good for Brenda's Celtic.
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{Ed025's Note - he gave his all there RT and got a hug off ronnie as he came off, its up to james i think and if he wants to stay he must keep up that level every time he plays mate..
13 Dec 2016 23:03:29
Totally agree Royal. An easy target for fans. As is Barkley and Cleverly. Strange thing is imho it was Eamon Dunphy who started it all last season while he was playing for Ireland.
Dunphy certainly knows how to create story's and get people talking. The media seemed to kick on with it after that. We have him to thank imo.
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13 Dec 2016 22:15:58
Just got back from the match, ratings:
Stekelenburg-6-Obvious why
Coleman-7-Scored an was a decent threat last 20 minutes. Thought his containment of Sanchez was poor as expected.
Jagielka-7-Solid but no idea what his new obsession is with giving away fouls.
Williams-8-Goal alone is enough, love it.
Baines-8-Great ball in for Coleman, solid game and kept Walcott quiet.
McCarthy-6.5-He's too negative and never makes himself available, always hiding behind other players so no one gives him the ball.
Gana-8-Did everything well, good passes, his tackling and reading of the game was so good.
Valencia-8-Fought his heart out, ran all game and was pretty decent on the ball.
Barkley-8.5-Another who gave his all, always wanted the ball and wasn't afraid of anything.
Lennon-7.5-Never seen him give anything but 100%, presses all the time and his ability to keep the ball was excellent.
Lukaku-7-Some fight in him today.
These ratings may be too high, don't get it confused, this wasn't a good performance by the team but plenty of good performances from individual players. Fought for every ball today.
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{Ed025's Note - i disagree swan, i thought it was entertaining with all the passion and commitment we have been craving for, how you never gave gana a 10 i dont know, and rom was better than a 7 in my book as well mate..
13 Dec 2016 22:30:17
Reminded me if the dogs of war after the first 20 mins. up em and at em. much better feeling going into the rs match. Even lewin tried to get stuck in. Loved it.
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13 Dec 2016 22:31:06
Did you go the Bournemouth game then Swan?
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{Ed025's Note - love it john..
13 Dec 2016 22:34:43
Also thought McCarthy put in a good shift. The guy pressed everything and showed a bit of grit which we have been severely lacking lately.
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13 Dec 2016 22:34:48
I give Swan a 10 for posting again! But yeah we all have a different view on things but it is much easier to disagree after a performance like that!
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13 Dec 2016 22:35:48
I disagree, I think that with the exception of Stekelenburg, who for me should have got a 5, I would have rated most of the players a little higher. Lukaku made a lot of effort, and McCarthy did a good job and actually passed forwards for a change. Coleman was fantastic going forward so I think we can forgive his handling of Sanchez.
I loved the atmosphere tonight at the game. The players finally realised that if they put a bit of effort in then the fans get off their backs and become the 12th man again. The players all put a shift in and you could see the relief on their faces when the final whistle went.
Someone on here said that Koeman needed his game to endear him to the fans, ala the Chelsea home and Arsenal away in Bobby's first season. This may be it. I'm not looking forward to the derby on Monday, but I'm hoping that this may just kickstart our season again. COYB.
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13 Dec 2016 22:42:31
gotta agree with ed. could have let there heads go down after there goal, but we chased them down and got the crowd goin, what we've been craving for. well done lads, all we ask is everyone puts a shift in.
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13 Dec 2016 22:20:03
Together.
The most important word for this Everton we love.
Together.
The players on that pitch fighting for each other.
Together.
Chasing down the opposition defending as a unit and attacking with support.
Together.
The manager stood on that sideline. Heading every ball, urging every tackle and encouragine throughout.
Together.
A baying, vile, vicious, agressive and screaming goodison crowd. Stood shoulder to shoulder with those players on the pitch and not against them.
Together we are not just another football club.
Together
We
Are
Everton!
COYB NSNO IRKWT IFMWT
In Our Fans They Trust.
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13 Dec 2016 22:06:23
Well, that was more like it, Goodson rocking again, thought Idrissa Gueye was immense and Valencia gave his all! Beat the reds on Monday and Christmas will b complete in my house!
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{Ed025's Note - there is a down side though soli...if we win on monday i have to do cartwheels down woolton high street mate...bring it on i say.. :)
13 Dec 2016 22:12:41
At least you aren't doing them naked!
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{Ed025's Note - dont put that past me ST, when i get smashed i am capable of a lot of things mate, i got threw out of a lap dancing club in benelmadena a few years ago for pole dancing naked in a cage.. :)
13 Dec 2016 22:36:12
My God Ed. who stayed in the club to throw you out?
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{Ed025's Note - all the brasses mate.. :)
13 Dec 2016 23:08:43
Ed025 can I go on your next holiday? Sounds right up my street that!
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{Ed025's Note - you can NBTB, but you must be able to play golf badly and drink lager and jack daniels in copious ammounts, gambling and smoking are not essential but will endear you to the group..welcome aboard.. :)
13 Dec 2016 21:47:04
1000% better. barkley bust a gut, lukaku wanted to know. if we do that every week I'll be a happy blue. Bit of confidence now going in to the derby.
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13 Dec 2016 22:12:29
Goodison lights next Monday, the Goodison roar and Lukaku and Valencia in attack, please Ronnie stick with 2 strikers and run at them next week, I am not asking for much.
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{Ed025's Note - it has to be baz..surely..
13 Dec 2016 21:46:37
I feel like I have just given birth to quadruplets and they are all millionaires. Emotional to say the least! All those who were saying the players did not care or try take a rethink. But those who said we needed 2 up front and to try Valencia up with Lukaku had a point I feel. We seem scared of teams and too negative. When we start pushing on, we can battle ourselves into a game. Koeman is right on that point. but the players seem to start so slowly and back off until we are a goal down.
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13 Dec 2016 22:05:17
I really think the two up front is key Degsy. Even though neither scored today they open up the attacking options for the other players, drawing defenders with them. When Koeman took Valencia off he replaced him with Calvert-Lewin, a 19 year center forward, how refreshing.
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{Ed025's Note - that was another real plus for us mike, and i thought rom was very industrious tonight as well..
13 Dec 2016 22:08:27
Been saying it for weeks, stick Valencia in attack with Lukaku, attack teams and don't sit back, Lukaku has looked lazy on his own, with another striker, it gives our wingers more options than playing a pass to Lukaku who is surrounded by a couple of defenders.
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13 Dec 2016 22:27:13
I think you are right BlueMike75. I have been saying the same for a while.
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13 Dec 2016 22:27:13
I think you are right BlueMike75. I have been saying the same for a while.
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13 Dec 2016 21:49:18
Well that was marvelous, if we play like that for the rest of the season we have nothing to fear. Also great to see the kid come on. Hopefully this will give the players confidence for the Derby.
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13 Dec 2016 21:56:42
It is buzzin in here. About time and more like it. We need a few more young uns in and promoted now, because to play RK's system you need to be able to press for 90 minutes and you only get that from being supremely fit and having the young body to cope with it. One other thing, Stubsy in the commentators box, get him in Ron get him in, defensive coach.
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{Ed025's Note - it was a great night BCT, i was only saying to degsy today that we can play good football and be aggressive mate..thats the happy medium i was on about, im glad ronnie took my advice on board.. :)
13 Dec 2016 22:20:05
Tut tut Ed. you didn't make that clear to me. But I accept it now. And Guye is the new Peter Reid! In and about everywhere. Sat with a bottle of Pinot Grigiot and it tastes like nectar! You can see in the players that it is a fear and confidence thing. it has nothing to do with lack of effort. they are just so scared of giving a goal away that they will not commit to pressing forwards. Hopefully Koeman will now instil in their minds this fact and we will press other teams in the same way.
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{Ed025's Note - i want that every game degsy, you seen how the crowd responded to that passion and verve they were immense and the players must know that when they give 100% like tonight the fans will respond, great night and hopefully our season starts here mate..
13 Dec 2016 21:44:20
That's why you can't beat being a Blue.
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{Ed025's Note - it is tedster..i dont want to put a dampener on things mate but why not the same every week?..
13 Dec 2016 21:59:43
One game tedster and so many emotions the joy of being an Evertonian can't wait for Monday.
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13 Dec 2016 21:43:34
Fantastic win and fantastic performance!
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{Ed025's Note - i hope your not looking for an argument from me NBTB..lol..
13 Dec 2016 21:37:42
Hi Ed That No1 in the bank mate so when will I see you in Bull bay. I did tell you.
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{Ed025's Note - you did AB, im there in march mate..
13 Dec 2016 21:48:03
Where are you guys meeting? The Bull inn?
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{Ed025's Note - the big pub as you come off the bridge..are you coming degs?..
13 Dec 2016 22:25:06
Forgot to say I had a meal in the restaurant in that pub with some rich mate of my Dads when I was about 8 years old. 51 years ago!
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13 Dec 2016 22:24:09
Let me know when it is. I just retired and bought a little caravan. All this summer I toured all over the country. my family are on the wirral and have a caravan in Llanberis, so with a bit opf planning could be up there. Also get a game in. I am coming up from Cornwall for the Man City game so pleasebook me a performance like todays Ed.
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{Ed025's Note - i will tell ronnie your coming home degs, im tying a yellow ribbon around a tree as we speak.. :)
13 Dec 2016 22:25:06
Forgot to say I had a meal in the restaurant in that pub with some rich mate of my Dads when I was about 8 years old. 51 years ago!
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{Ed025's Note - i thought i seen a bit of bomb damage in the snug mate.. :)
13 Dec 2016 21:34:46
Hi Ed what on earth are some of these posters on about, glad they don't pick the team R K to lose the game they should be ashamed of themselves, what a load of HOGWASH, GuernseyBlue.
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{Ed025's Note - its what happens when confidence is low mate..its not now..lol..
13 Dec 2016 21:48:09
BLXXXXXXXXDY right, cheers ED.
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13 Dec 2016 21:29:50
So so sorry Ashley knee jerk mate great goal.
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13 Dec 2016 20:37:10
What a great cross from baines left back to right back.
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13 Dec 2016 21:47:49
We'll Ed, you've gone quiet I did tell you the next 3 games were easy wins.
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{Ed025's Note - you did mate...and just like the monkeys...im a believer.. LOL
13 Dec 2016 20:07:42
Take barkley and Williams off and push up this is a disgrace.
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13 Dec 2016 20:19:16
To deep and we give the ball away to easy but looking better now come on everton.
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13 Dec 2016 20:22:24
When Barkley has had no game time and Is under scrutiny he should be chasing every ball down and dieing for the team!
Williams is also out of form and needs to take charge at the back!
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13 Dec 2016 21:35:01
What plonker suggested take Williams off he may of just won us the game. An I may be watching a different game but I think barkley has done well tonight. has anyone noticed a difference in koeman today too he has been up and down the line being very vocal I think it's the sign of a man who was just starting to feel the pressure.
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13 Dec 2016 21:51:51
Gana was class ed I was impressed with valenciea mate I would of been happier if koeman took off mccarthy tho an put valenciea in his position. I think the team as a whole played there socks off mate today against a really impressive arsenal team.
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{Ed025's Note - it really was shakey mate..
13 Dec 2016 18:50:00
I see Kooman wants to lose the game by playing Mccarthy who is poor.
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{Ed025's Note - but ross in and 2 up front mal, with that line up we could beat them or get slaughtered...or even a 5-5 draw mate.. :)
13 Dec 2016 19:02:20
Maarten Stekelenburg
Leighton Baines
Team is:
Seamus Coleman
Phil Jagielka
Ashley Williams
Ross Barkley
Idrissa Gueye
Aaron Lennon
James McCarthy
Romelu Lukaku
Enner Valencia
Substitutes: Joel Robles, Ramiro Funes Mori, Mason Holgate, Tom Cleverley, Kevin Mirallas, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Gerard Deulofeu.
Good to see two up front and Calvert-Lewin on the bench, a welcome change.
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{Ed025's Note - yes mike, its no good sitting back and letting them swamp us mate..
13 Dec 2016 07:57:37
Morning Ed025 RK says we need more balance? It's the same team we've had now for many years and they've not been this bad but here goes my first of three wins starting tonight.
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{Ed025's Note - if we do AB the next time i play bull bay i will call in and buy you a pint mate..
13 Dec 2016 18:46:48
Hi Ed didn't know you were a golfer mate I'll see you there.
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{Ed025's Note - i found bull bay very hard AB, i play off 14 but only got about 28 stableford points when we played it, mind you it was quite windy mate..
13 Dec 2016 18:54:18
It's always windy there mate but it's one of the best. Nice to see two up front tonight.
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{Ed025's Note - yes AB, i think you had a word with ronnie so you could get that free pint mate.. :)
13 Dec 2016 18:06:32
My team selection for tonight
Joel
Coleman Holgate Mori Baines
McCarthy
Davies. Gana. Barkley
Lukaku. Valencia
With the instructions to work their socks off!
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13 Dec 2016 18:39:18
Davies not in the squad, played last night for the U21's. Doubt if Holgate will be in the starting 11 also would say the same forJoel and Valencia. Probably a permutation of the regular Koeman pick players we have seen playing over the last few games.
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{Ed025's Note - god help us then mike.. :)
13 Dec 2016 18:54:45
I would love to be proved wrong Ed but Koeman has given no indication that he would be using the youngsters or changing goalkeepers or using two up front.
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{Ed025's Note - ross is recalled and valencia is partnering rom mike, it looks like hes throwing caution to the wind in this one mate..and i applaud that..i think.. :)
13 Dec 2016
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13 Dec 2016 17:34:10
I usually really look fwd to when efc are playing live on sky but we are playing rubbish plus we have arsenal liverpool then leicester so no looking fwd to them games.
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13 Dec 2016 12:01:25
DCL included tonight, could it be history repeating itself?
Youngster comes off the bench to score wonder goal against Arsenal!
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13 Dec 2016 12:35:16
Wake up Mushy, I think you are having a dream 😊
Be awake by 7.45 so you can witness The Goons winning 2-0 lol.
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13 Dec 2016 13:13:57
Hi gunner, we got 3 easy games next and it's starts tonight with your lot before we play Hull easy home win, good luck for the rest of the season.
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13 Dec 2016 13:18:18
It's Inconsistent Arse mate not Barca! 😁.
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13 Dec 2016 19:36:05
Haha, thank you boys 😏.
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13 Dec 2016 21:39:31
Hi gunner I did tell you.
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13 Dec 2016 10:35:39
As we all no we aren't playing the best but tonite is were the players need us as fans to show r support we r not like any other fans we r there in the bad times an the good we all go threw it together an no matter what we sing r hearts out let's get behind them tonite an try lift them out this hole we and them r in COYB.
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13 Dec 2016 09:50:54
Hi Ed, tough one tonight I would take a score draw against the Gooners, I just want to see the lads play for their shirt and show some fire in their bellies or it could be last chance saloon for a lot of them, GuernseyBlue.
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13 Dec 2016 08:36:10
Everton boss Ronald Koeman says he needs "more balance" in his side as he looks ahead to the January transfer window. quote from the Guardian.
I am not going to say a word more on this!
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13 Dec 2016 05:37:23
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Midweek Premier League Preview
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13 Dec 2016 02:44:36
I think Everton need to get back to basics, we are making the game so complicated with formations, get back to 4-4-2, each player with a task, defend, play the ball forward, attack.
A good three minutes our sub spends listening to our managers notes, do this, do that, move here, run there.
These players are professionals, work on a system in training and don't change it after 10 minutes, half the players have not got a clue when we keep changing from this to that every 5 minutes.
It's not rocket science, stop over complicating and keep it simple.
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13 Dec 2016 07:17:38
They call it old School Baz, I call it realism. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I do agree with you in short but to take a more pragmatic view, don't we have to adapt to the other Teams tactics. Our last Manager was very bad at this, at least Koeman tries to respond. Hopefully now that he has settled in, his long term view has now become far more solidified with changes possible in January.
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13 Dec 2016 21:46:55
Kendalll always said let the other team worry about us, let them make the changes to try and out think us, changing your style against other teams is strengthening their chances and weakening yours, roll your sleeves up, put the other team on the Blackfoot, sitting back you will eventually get caught out, best means of defence is attack.
2 strikers tonight and we get a result, marking 2 strikers creates space for our flanks.
Job done, well done Everton, same again next game please Ronnie, 2 strikers.
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{Ed025's Note - amen to that baz..
12 Dec 2016 23:23:09
I've refrained from posting too much lately because I'm hurting just like the rest of you. Anger can sometimes cloud your judgement and you focus on the wrong areas.
With anger there is frustration which can then lead to a loss of confidence in what the manager is trying to do.
It sounds a bit Yoda but it's true. It's what has happened to the team at present.
A win can build confidence that relieves frustration. More clarity and less frustration creates belief and you become happier in your role and your judgement becomes better.
It's a process but it can only work if those players on the pitch, the manager and fans work together. None are doing it right now but if any club can it's this beast we support.
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13 Dec 2016 08:37:25
agreed.
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