Everton Banter Archive November 12 2012

 

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12 Nov 2012 22:21:30
How much would Holtby cost in January considering his contract runs out next summer?

ToffeeMike {Ed025's Note - at a guess £6m..

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12 Nov 2012 21:43:40
you lot will enjoy this. Liverpool team mates ignore Luis Suarez after his goal against chelsea.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2883/1352655651923.gif

sparky

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No one cares

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No one cares, we are here to talk about EVERTON!

ToffeeMike

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Haha who cares if its not about us its still funny as hell !
felliswig

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Why would they ignore him?

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People need to lighten up they have put this up for a giggle so av a giggle grandpa!!

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You can see on the clip that they are all trudging back ignoring him - and he does turn to look for them and notices that no one has followed him - he momentarily looks a bit gutted or shocked

I reckon he might be on the way out of Liverpool in january if that is the response of his team mates

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12 Nov 2012 21:33:50
Big Felli has added a new dimension to his game this season, he's now scoring goals for fun! we paid 15 million for him, and since then he's matured and is no longer getting booked every week, he has expanded his game, now he's a DM,CM,AM all with equal quality, he's 24 and has 4 years left on his contract. So by my calculations and going by market value he has to be worth 45-50 million!

Kurajan

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12 Nov 2012 21:28:23
Any news on mirrallas scan ed? We need his directness and skilful play to turn the draws into wins
Thanks
Eddy {Ed025's Note - he is a quality player eddy, as far as i know they are still assessing the injury mate, i dont think its a very bad one, but hamstrings can be tricky, as soon as i know more i will let you know..

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12 Nov 2012 21:08:49
Whats going on with Victor Anichebe,anyone?

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Nothing, he's always been usless

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He is not useless, been good for us this season so stop ripping our players apart.

ToffeeMike

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I agree. Vic's no
Messi (if only he was :D) however whenever called upon he has done his job with no moaning. He's just unlucky that he has to battle with Jela.

Anyway, he's been missing for the last few weeks due to injury. He was on the bench for Fulham away, up until 14:55. He was replaced on the bench by Duffy because he had thrown up or something like that. And then he wasn't on the bench this week because he picked up an injury playing for the U21s.

Just to confirm, the poster who said something along the lines of 'Moyes and Anichebe have had a bust up and Anichebe will be sold in January' is absolute tosh.

Keith EFC.

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Anichebe was ill, then picked up an injury in the U/21 game.

Cant believe people still slagging him off, the lad is scoring more or less every time he gets on the pitch, what more do you want, looks actually dangerous when he plays now.

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12 Nov 2012 21:04:12
I know we are interested in Holtby but have we even made an offer? He has said he has received offers from England but I think that is the reds and Arsenal. Have we or are we going to make an offer? I dont think we should let this one slip through the net, any thoughts Ed?
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note we have shown interest joe, now its up to him, and cash of course..

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12 Nov 2012 18:51:59
Oh here we go, a few weeks from the transfer window and the rumours start.....

Please stop being so negative, Fellani's going nowhere until at least the summer!

Are these the same people that where saying Baines is going???

Show me some "Evidence" to back up your "Theorys" and I might start listening.

Until then..... Piss off and Troll another site.

Gods Doctor

Please note - All comments will be met with a strong opinion and a view to put you down like an old 3 legged dog with rabies!!

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What's up Doc ? The media starts these rumours off for a very good reason... They're sensation seeking parasites ! They've put 2 and 2 together and on this occasion got 4 because who wouldn't be interested in taking the big fella ? But he stays if we get CL and goes if we don't. Quite simple really.

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Some evidence? for exemple the fact that david moyes himself talked about possibility to sell him?

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No namer..... Show me the link to that interview!

Gods Doctor

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14 Nov 2012 13:24:54
here: http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2012/11/12/marouane-fellaini-can-lead-everton-into-champions-league-says-david-moyes-99623-32215446/

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Why has my other link not be posted? it was from the official everton website... {Ed025's Note - never seen it mate...but the site does frown on references to other web sites, as there are legal issues with some of them..

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12 Nov 2012 17:53:52
if felli was at utd or Chelsea they would want nearer £40 million for him so why shouldn't we??

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We do.

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12 Nov 2012 17:43:13
Ed any news on any possible transfer targets?
Eg holtby nice vadis etc?

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Eddy {Ed025's Note - sorry eddy, nothing yet mate, perhaps it's a bit early..

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12 Nov 2012 16:45:55
What players would u like to see at Goodson in January but realistically speaking ?
Personally I would like holtby or Ince

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Vadis (loan with view to permanent), Donovan plus maybe another loan. I'd be made up if we could get 2 maybe 3 in and not lose anyone.

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I'd like to see this lad Fellani everyones going on about, I think he'd fit right in!

Gods Doctor

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Odjidja. Can't see holtby and ince coming, too many competition for them. Maybe Matt PHillips then, seems a bit more realistic to me.

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Sam Byram, Jack Butland and Vadis (loan) would do me.

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Vadis(loan), Holtby (pre-contract), Landon (short term) and a permanent. That's stretching it a bit most probably but would be nice. If we get Vadis then I don't see a place for Gibbo unless we're playing away at one of the 'big' clubs and want to keep it tight

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12 Nov 2012 13:12:37
Who would have thought at the start of the season we would be sat in fourth after 11 games trying to shake off West Brom and West Ham!

Best League in the world!

Blue Bones

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Agreed - apart from the fact that money talks and its all bought and paid for these days - unlike pre 90s where a guy like Clough could take a team like Notts forest and win the European Cup - twice - now fergie n his mates in Europe have stitched it up so its always the same teams at the top - well it was until chelski and Man C gategrashed uninvited - now once the fair play rules come in fergie had got what he wanted again - so same old same old

I'd love it if we finished fourth and broke the mold but teams with more money like chelski and arsenal will come and take our best players if we look like being a real threat
clozem

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Take our players, not without handing over wheelbarrows full of Cash. Players of real value, Fellaini 45m, Jelavic 25m Baines 25m Mirallas 30m. Just my opinion but would not sell any of these players for a penny less than the prices I put on them. Thoughts ED and fellow Blues am I way of with my valuations. Barkley?? in a couple of years we will no his valuation too.

Dero ( Irish Blue )

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I think you are miles away with these valuations myself- Realistically--Fellaini £30-35m, Jelavic £12-15m, Baines £15-20m, Mirallas £10-15m. Barkley?... who knows, same as Rodwell most likely

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12 Nov 2012 12:11:35
Howdy my Royals. Not been on for a while again (well posted) but i'm buzzing atm, love the way we're playing and the big man Felli.

Started thinking about January and then remembered the fact that alan Dzagoev is out of contract in Jan (I believe). He is brilliant, what an unbelieveable signing that would be and it might just be a possibility & it would show the big boys we're there to stay.

Holtby on pre contract would be lovely & his dad would be too lol.

I think we'll need three players, either loan or signings if we're going to make it to the champions league. It'll only take 2 injuries and unfortunately thats the winless streak over.

Lets get 3 players and if it could ever be dzagoev, holtby or donavan, plus a CB (dawson) then I think we'd reach the holy grail of the CL, not just this year but for many to come.

Get ready Real Madrid, We're coming...

Leon EFC {Ed025's Note - love it Leon..

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12 Nov 2012 14:37:03
That would do for me mate

Degsy

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12 Nov 2012 11:55:30
If Andy Carroll Is Worth £35 Million! Then Fellaini has got to be worth more than £30 million that's the price getting thrown around? Myself personally would be edging towards the £40 mil mark! What are your thoughts?.....

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Does it matter? he will be sold..Everton cannot keep hold of there best players. Maybe our Roman may give you 18 million for him.

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Go home and don't insult us with £18M, that wouldn't even buy his right leg, Roman will be fed up soon.

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And your Ruski mafioso can whistle. £30m at least or he can take his custom elsewhere.

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Says the team that have no history


also no name

paddock toffee

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He is good, but I don't think he is worth anywhere near £40 million. Just as Carroll wasn't worth £35 million. I think around £25m is a fair price for Fellaini.

Mike {Ed025's Note - now why does,nt that surprise me?...I'm shocked that you never said less mike!, you really are one miserable sod!

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Typical arrogance from the plastic chelski 'fans'. Let's face it without 'your roman' you'd be a mid-table side and you would probably be supporting Man C instead. Glory seeking tarts with no knowledge of football. Worst 'fans' in the country by a clear margin. Disgraceful.

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For 18 million our david may give you a no. {Ed025's Note - or maybe a PMSL..

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Mike we paid £15m for him as a then 19yr old ? And now, for all-round ability and versatility he has no peers. I agree the donkey isn't worth anywhere near £35m, but the market says otherwise, and if we were to go by that rationale Fellaini is worth £70m as he's twice the player Carroll is. But, realistically, a fair price would be £30-35m IMO.

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In my opinion, £25m-£30m would be a fair price for Fellaini, ed. What price would you say? You can't honestly think he is worth close to £40 million, but if you do, then fair enough.

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Yeah right, 18 million, maybe we'l put a swap deal in why we're at it, Tony Hibbert for Mata anyone?
Toffeepidge

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12 Nov 2012 15:47:30
I'm sorry mike but 25m you're having a laugh, he's arguably the most inform player in the prem and he keeps getting better, he's only 24, and why shouldn't we get 40m if he played for utd that's the price yoy would be looking at, when you look at what other players have gone for, carrols,torres,even 20m for downing, we should be asking top dollar, even palace are asking 20m for zaha, and if you think that's to much, remember I bet every team in the prem would want him in their team right now but saying that I wouldn't sell him in jan, he could be the difference between cl and europa league.
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I wouldn't sell for £50m! If we're serious about getting 4th, we have to keep hold of him! Plus who could we seriously get as a replacement?? {Ed025's Note - good point mate..

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Market forces was the important phrase used by another. If I am right, Felli signed a new 4 year deal a few months back. That means he is tied to us unless he goes on strike or causes unrest as per Lescott. In which case we reluctantly hold out for the highest bidder. Then we only deal if the deal is right for us. Moyes does not give players away. Unless they are past their best. I would guess he would command a fee of 40 million. The fee paid by Reds for Carroll.....compare with the fee paid by United for Robin Van Persil.....24 million. It's all about contracts and like I say Felli signed a 4 year one. We hold the upper hand. Degsypulford

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He penned a new 5 year deal last November I believe, degsypulford, so he still has 4 yrs remaining plus he's still just 24 therefore would have a re-sale value. We're talking at least £30m here and probably more. He's the complete player.

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12 Nov 2012 11:15:04
were really missing jack rodwell ha ..weres he playing now?

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I think we are don't get me wrong it was a good deal and we strengthened our squad and would not be in top 4 if it wasn't for that deal. But I think Rodwell in the midfield instead of Neville would be stronger. I believe jack would have been better playing attacking football and on the same wave length as Mirrallas etc.

Robbie

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I don't think he'd have made a blind bit of difference as he's always sidelined. How many games has he played for city, 2 or 3 ? And let's face facts, he's not that good yet

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12 Nov 2012 11:11:37
I would just like to give credit to Tim Howard he has come in for some criticism lately but he made a couple of good saves Saturday and also came out and taken a cross and commanded his 6 yard box. he should take credit for 3pts also.

Robbie

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12 Nov 2012 09:29:14
Hope holtby on his way as a 1st team starter. maybe donovan bench and see how hitzelberger gets on may save us a few quid do for the bench. I know hibbert and gibbo injurd but bench was poor saturday. Glad we picking up points and long may it continue! Coyb paul c

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11 Nov 2012 23:53:12
Sorry ed ... Not really banter but do you know if the club are auctioning off the Poppy shirts from yesterday?

Cheers

BigPhil {Ed025's Note - yes they are Phil, with the proceeds going to the poppy appeal mate..

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Ed, Do you have the details of when the auction will be? BlueTone {Ed025's Note - they are being auctioned via the clubs web site tone..

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Cheers buddy!

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12 Nov 2012 07:51:41
fellaini has 3 years left on his contract hasn't he? so unless we get a bid of 40million in january, we keep him. tell him wait tilthe summer, see if we are in the champions league. if not cash in on him. after all he owes us as we have made him the player he is today. would be nice to see us do that as he is contracted and if we get rid of him in january i think any chance of 4th will go, regardless of who we bring in. also we really need to sign at least a cm and striker as backup in january as our very small squad may struggle towards the end of the season. for example our bench vs sunderland was pretty poor with the likes of vellios and gueye. i also hope moyes will use this contract situation to blackmail more funds in january and also keep fellaini. 2 important games coming up before a tough december and its crucial to take maximum points vs both reading and norwich. coyb!!

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He has 4yrs left on his contract I think. He signed a new 5 year deal last November or thereabouts I believe.

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It's pretty simple if we finish in the champs league places, Fellaini stays, if we don't he goes.
The way I look at it, if we finish 4th we keep Fellaini and we will qualify to the groups and receive good money for doing so.
If we don't get champs league Fellaini goes and we receive good money from his sale.
Either way we are going to have money next summer

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That is the way i am looking at it to. i would really love to see some loyalty by big felli and give us the chance of getting 4th therefore helping him and us play champs league. like you say we will hopefully be playing champions league next summer which brings in extra cash and attracts more players, or we don't and we get 30+ million for fellaini. moyes is the bigger concern i hope he signs and with any money he gets in the summer we know he has a good eye and will 3 or 4 quality players in the summer

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