Everton Banter Archive June 12 2018

12 Jun 2018 19:30:21
Just read that Antonee Robinson had a good game against France playing against Mbappe, Griezman and Pogba. I know it's only a friendly and they don't wanna get injured before World Cup, but maybe he could rotate with Baines next season?

12 Jun 2018 21:20:37
With so much speculation about, it’s impossible to know how much truth there is in any of it. Press know we’re in the market for players in a number of positions and we’re linked with any that are available. Brands said himself that the phone hasn’t stopped ringing. You don’t need to find players any more, they find you!

{Ed025's Note - your right blue mate..

12 Jun 2018 22:57:16
Antonee Robinson is already our player though, was on loan at Bolton last season. Lizarazu sung his praises, he was one of the best left backs of the last few decades in his prime.

13 Jun 2018 01:53:43
Could we go through another season with Baines as our only proven LB?

13 Jun 2018 10:00:24
Smit666, who do you prefer as backup to Coleman? Kenny a youth player through the ranks or Martina a proven RB with PL experience? If the management think either Robinson or Connolly are good enough understudies why bring in a journeyman as a backup. If they want to replace Baines then that's different.

13 Jun 2018 14:46:50
Not a direct response to your post Oilblue. Was just making the point that all speculation is, at the moment, just that. I don’t know a lot about Robinson other than he got good reviews at Bolton too. I guess the question is, is his development suited better to playing a role from the bench for us, or in the first team for another team? We have a lot of youngsters, but we need quality and experience on our bench too.

13 Jun 2018 16:06:05
And what do we do if Baines and/ or Robinson get injured?
Put Martina back in?

Coleman 1st choice, Kenny 2nd and Martina 3rd.

13 Jun 2018 16:43:28
"Proven" premier league RB? . That's rather optimistic sa90, you're definitely a glass is half full kind of guy. Baines, Kenny, Martina for me. Kenny was decent last year, more game time will only help develop him further so he has to be ahead of Martina, I think he's a better player too.

13 Jun 2018 16:53:17
I know what you're saying Blue, it's a tricky one. If he goes out on loan he should get guaranteed game time. But then we would probably need to pay out for a top LB to compete with Baines.
I suppose we'll just have to follow Brands' and Silva's opinion on this one mate.

13 Jun 2018 17:08:15
Smit666 the management have stated that the squad is far too big and we need to get reduce the size of the squad before we bring in additions. So having 3 RB and 3 LB just in case is probably too many players. I would look at two for each position with any additional players coming from the U23 postional change ie CB or midfield filling in or loan if required. I hope we sell Martina as I don't think he is good enough but I wouldn't necessarily bring in another LFB unless I wanted to replace Baines and use him as the back up.

13 Jun 2018 18:34:35
Sa90 Baines has one season left at best and it is too early this season and next for Robinson. We need someone integrated with a view to being no1 when Baines moves on or breaks down.
Most positions on the field can be covered by moving players around but L/ RB is a bit different, especially in the prem. If we are having a young understudy we need experienced cover.

12 Jun 2018 12:02:06
Had to laugh at the bs coming from big Sam, it was apparently his desire to lead us into our new stadium! Now after subjecting us to some of the most awful football available, it carries on with

"You must have a team that is going to perform in a stadium of that capacity and deliver. ”

I'm sure he means well but that's the expectation of every fan of every club big or small, now if only he could have used that in his stint in charge. "a team that is going to perform. "

12 Jun 2018 16:31:55
It depends on what you mean by perform his teams win games so therefore in his mind perform. For him its all about not loosing not style.

12 Jun 2018 18:54:01
It's a massive contrast to Silva. Sam is to not lose whereas it's going for the win with Silva. It's why the Sam's and Moyes of this world never win anything at all, ever.

Silva in his short career has more trophies than Sam and Moyes put together. Hopefully with us, he extends that gap.

12 Jun 2018 20:04:11
Blimey BJU just reading or hearing the words Allardyce and Moyes makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Happy days ahead with Silva I am sure.

12 Jun 2018 20:06:45
I understand those points and agree Sam and moyes won't win you a trophy but at least a moyes team showed conviction, Sam's would have been more exciting had they all stood on the goal line. Don't think anyone on here will argue a case for great football under him, mind you with all the football played in 1 half imagine the savings from building half a stadium.

12 Jun 2018 21:14:23
Games played over two halves so both ends got a chance to suffer.

12 Jun 2018 23:08:34
Moyes was a great manager for us on a very limited budget, he was not given time at Man United. It baffles me why any blue can knock him.

{Ed0333's Note - I also think he was very good for you but i was flabbergasted he got the United job, completely out of his depth.

13 Jun 2018 01:51:50
When asked on talk sport who would he play against Tunisia, Died or Henderson, he said. Both. Lol there you go.

13 Jun 2018 12:01:35
Because he only came close once in 11 YEARS to winning a trophy. Made my club sound like a second rate pub team that should be honoured to be on the same pitch as the "BIGGER" clubs and told us after joining United that if he was still our manager he would sell our best players to the "BIGGER" clubs! 《This was probably the reason he NEVER won a trophy with us.

12 Jun 2018 08:03:33
I was talking to a scout from the Irish league and he was of the opinion that by at least 19 if a kid wasn't near first team football he wasn't going to make it but didn't Roy Keane head to England at 21 and Ian Wright develop late I'd be pleased to hear a different opinion on this as we've a great kid at our local club who could do well but he's 18 already.

12 Jun 2018 08:28:05
Yeah lots of examples Jamie vardy Ian Wright Roy Keane Leon Osman are just four off the top of my head but bet there are lots.

13 Jun 2018 01:48:25
I’m pretty sure that at the age of 19, they should be “near” first team football. Of course there might be the odd exception to the rule but look at everyone’s who’s come through our academy over the last 10 years, how many have actually made it to the big stage?

Rooney - he played at 16.
Barkley - pretty sure he was 16
Rodwell - made it big stage, no idea where he is now
Mustafi - won the WC!
Anichebe - don’t know where he is now but did okay for us
Vaughn - I thought this boy was going to be a rocket but never quite reached his potential.
Duffy - not a top player but he’s made it I suppose.

There are probably a few more but none that spring to mind. I guess Richard Dunne and Baines could made it on this list but I have no idea how old they were when’s they broke into their first team squads.

A lot of players like Baxter and anyone that’s 21 or 22 will never make into the first team. Especially when you consider how far they are behind players like Sane, dele alli, Sterling, stones, martial!