Everton Banter Archive February 10 2016

10 Feb 2016 21:47:04
wheres Swan Ed, has he been banned.

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know degs..

11 Feb 2016 06:25:29
Still struggling with the fact we've won three in a row I guess.

10 Feb 2016 19:37:05
To the poster Charmed, you have my apologies mate and thanks for your input I feel I can speak for us all when I say that.

{Ed025's Note - top stuff stef mate..

10 Feb 2016 21:35:26
me too.

10 Feb 2016 16:41:29
Bluupaul
They left as we were successful under O'neil
They wanted more money and medals
And as will happen with stones and Barkley a bit of success and the big boys come sniffing
Look at Barry
Threw his dummy out the pram and went to train with Hastings his home team club on strike
As the villa would let him leave when Liverpool came on for him

Look where the first batch went
Barry, Milner man city
Young man united
Downing Liverpool

Delph signed a contract with a get out clause to get a fee for him as otherwise he walked for free
He at least got the club some money

Beneteke was all agent

Is the grass greener?
Beneteke couldn't him a barn door ( will probably score a hatrrick Sunday)
Delph a bit part player
Downing Middlesbrough
Barry Everton ( lost place in man city at least he joined a club where he could play my favourite ever Vila player bar Paul McGrath
Milner Liverpool (lost play to Delph he was only a bit part player who couldn't command a regular position yet alone a regular start)

10 Feb 2016 18:28:49
Successful under O'neil? I guess so for Villa. 3 Seasons finished 6th and a League Cup losing Finalist.
Bit like calling Moyes successful, but as a Blue I don't as there wasnt any Silverware!

10 Feb 2016 16:18:00
Mirror reporting Martinez is on inters radar

If I'm being honest I don't know how I feel about this the last three games have been great I'd loves us to keep it up but I do have concerns about Bobby but if I'm honest I also still have a little faith in him to if this was a story 2/ 3 weeks ago I'd have been packing his bags me self

If you ask me honestly if I would like to see the back of Martinez I'd probably say let's wait and see which is a big difference from a few weeks ago.

10 Feb 2016 17:46:42
If he picks howard and stones this saterday, win, lose or drew, I will row him to Italie in person.

10 Feb 2016 20:31:46
Agreed JCW100. I'll help you out with the rowing if he selects Howard. Stones I'd forgive him just about but Howard, give me a shout and we'll get rowing!

10 Feb 2016 20:31:46
Agreed JCW100. I'll help you out with the rowing if he selects Howard. Stones I'd forgive him just about but Howard, give me a shout and we'll get rowing!

10 Feb 2016 23:06:36
Neither should walk straight back into the team NBTB. Howard takes all the blame but Stones has been just as poor. With both out we have kept a few clean sheets so the defence should be left alone for now. Not Robles biggest fan by a long chalk but dropping him now would be criminal, might as well put him on the transfer list if he doesn't play next league game.
RM to Inter? If we do get the new owners we crave then I don't expect him to be in charge for too much longer, they almost always install their own man within first year or so. Would be a good move for Martinez but no so much for the Italians. They like their teams to defend well and erm. you can see where I'm going with this!

11 Feb 2016 10:18:21
Yea think everyone is in agreement with Howard. I agree also Stones shouldn't just walk straight onto the team. Jags and Mori have done very well last few games.

Thing is long-term I'd love to see Stones stay. That's the difference with him and Howard. Howard at end of career Stones is on in his first full season at 21. Stones is only going to get better.

Will be an excellent footballer so at some stage I would like to see him back in the team. He needs to learn more. Why people thought he was never going to put a foot wrong is beyond me. A dip in form is what he had.

Every footballer suffers from that from time to time. Even the most elite. People should stand by him rather than the brigade mad to sell him just because he had a dip in form and we won 3 games in a row without him.

I have no doubt we will gain from him staying here and he will contribute a lot to a team challenging for honours.

10 Feb 2016 13:36:02
Bloody hell.Dortmund fans protest to ticket prices going up to €19 by hurling tennis balls onto the pitch during cup game. Liverpool fans walk out after 77 mins and miss 2 wonderful goals.no wonder German stadiums a always full at them prices.

10 Feb 2016 19:24:21
I agree dentielad
but the german model was made by the club's and the bundesleague hierarchy being sensible and not greedy sods like those running the premier league I am also extremely proud of my club for being one of only four who voted for £30 pound away fan tickets just goes to show what greedy sods the other 15 are.

10 Feb 2016 13:04:57
Villa fan here
Be careful what you wish

Man U financed by debt

Liverpool first owners

Aston villa

All have American owners
I know you have your beef with Liverpool
But the first owners all most ruined them
the yanks have ruined my club
First 3 years spending in the community etc
Now not even a player bought in on the Jan window
Man U massive debt massive loan payments to the glazers
Be careful what you wish
Barkley stones etc will be gone to finance the club
You think I joke
Look at the villa players who were sold
To balance the books
Gareth Barry
Ashley Young
James Milner
Fabian Delphi
Christian beneteke
Stuart downing
Ron valar.

10 Feb 2016 13:45:32
thanks for stating the obvious.

10 Feb 2016 14:02:11
These Americans supported there managers mate with a lot money they bought bad and your clubs suffered well that was the case with Villa anyway.

10 Feb 2016 14:36:49
Actually not heard any such advice from Liverpool or Manchester United fans. Could that be because they aren't about to be relegated.

10 Feb 2016 15:07:51
What a friendly bunch we are, he was offering a bit of advice which is dead true. These guys might be okay but some fans need to realise we don't have it half as bad as some teams but some Everton fans just love to moan. Where's the arteta money who we sold for 10 million. What about Newcastle selling Carroll for 35 million, where did that money go.
As for villa, Lerner hasn't put any money in yet sold Barry, Milner, downing and young for around 70 million. Sold benteke for 35 million and hasn't put a penny of that back in. Imagine if we sold lukaku in August and didn't spend any of that in the January window.

10 Feb 2016 15:35:15
villa did but benteke money back in on amavi guyge gusteded and ayew.

10 Feb 2016 15:40:39
Ask Martin oniell Honest blue.

10 Feb 2016 15:46:33
to the villa fan and his take on all the villa players THEY LEFT MATE because VILLA ARE GOD DAM WOEFUL nothing to do with owners they left because villa have no vision END OF.

{Ed025's Note - im with HB here, the guy comes on here with some friendly advice and got nothing but grief...his points were valid for me, we dont know these americans from adam and yet everyone thinks they are the second coming!, when the likes of moyes and pienaar left we were all saying "the grass is not always greener" and yet now it seems it is....come on guys i thought we were better than that..

10 Feb 2016 16:03:39
Hi honest blue
I wish the others could see my point of view
Yes learner did back O'neil
Top 6 3 years running didn't quite get to where Learner wanted to go
Learner then got bored
Never heard off him again
Went to Wembley to see our non final
And face in the paper
He appointed non football men
Not necessarily players reqd on the board but football men
He appointed
Business types "suits"
Look at the list
Paul lambert comes in spends 12 million
He was appointed by suits not football men
Told to cut wages due to O'neils reckless spending and wages ( everybody will sign and hold the club to ransom for wages as a Uncle Sam is footing the bill)
Then houiller (suit signing he had had a massive heart attack wasn't fit for the job but a big name to appease the
Fans)
Mcleash another suit appointment bought in cut wages further (master stroke by learner like Everton signing Roy Evans as manager everybody hated him already so what he done we just hated him more)
Sherwood needed a job no ties cheap appointment
Moyes was offered the job and turned it down

Remi Garde cheap appointment but looks a good bloke
But money was promised and didn't come
I am not bitter about relegation
I am bitter about a faceless chairman hiding behind others
Some investment works
Man city prime example, Leicester another success owner
But look at villa, Cardiff, hull wolves Leeds

I like Everton love the ground wooden seats and all
And I wish you well
Bill kenwright has your best at heart
But
So did Doug Ellis.

10 Feb 2016 16:09:04
Get a grip lads. The Villa poster didn't mean any harm. Who knows what's going to happen in the future.

Have to feel for Villa this season. Good club with a good history. Wouldn't be a team that I'd like to see relegated. Hope they return to premiership the following year if they go down. Which looks inevitable.

10 Feb 2016 16:51:04
Well said ed and NBTB, the guy has come on taunting us. I generally feel for villa, they are similar to ourselves in history and just goes to show that these chairman with no passion towards the club can get bored and stop spending.
Was a good point Bretto, didn't realise those players cost that much but there net spend is still minus for the season despite the sky money.

10 Feb 2016 17:05:11
forgot vertout to they spent around 35 mil on those who are young and not buy enough prem proven players I like villa myself but they have kept there deadwood to long like agbhonlor.

10 Feb 2016 16:12:42
Ed money was spent badly at Villa mate and they never recovered but there was a chance for them I don't think anybody was slating him but the same goes for the yanks that are looking at us they are getting slated left right and centre and they have not even announced there plans yet it's because Villa did not work out with there yank owners we can't tar them all with the same brush FsG are doing a great job with the Reds money seems to be always available new stand getting built Arsenal not doing bad just saying mate.

{Ed025's Note - i have no problem with the yanks taking over stef, we have no right to judge them one way or the other until we have first hand experience, i just thought the responses to charmed was uncalled for and less than friendly mate, he took the time to post and give his views on the takeover whats wrong with that?..i like to think we have a good bunch here who are fair and amicable and as supporters represent the club even on forums like this.......on a side note.. how about george shaw winning the everton goal of the month?...thats why i love this club..

10 Feb 2016 18:37:46
Spot on Ed025. Charmed was only giving the example of Villa and stating his opinion. Ok, he shouldn't of jumped to the conclusion that Stones and Barkley would be sold.

Apart from that I can't argue with anything he said. I trust Bill's judgment and will go with what he thinks is best. But even Bill said he can get it wrong at times as well.

As Ed025 says we will never know until we go through the motions. No one is saying for sure its going to be bad. No one can say for sure its going to go well either.

I think its good to get different opinions. Especially from posters from other clubs. Even if I don't agree with them. Everyone should be free to do so.

I'd like to think any Everton poster would get proper respect in another teams site. Only right imho.

10 Feb 2016 19:05:58
Yes that was a class act by the club ed and if this takeover goes through I don't think we will lose that class a I read Moores likes to put money into charity'sso efcitc should be ok and continued. Also I apologise to the Villa fan if I sounded ungreatfull for his info. Ed we as fans have been through the mill we have been let down so many times takeover here there and everywhere with no truth to it whatsoever, we have a board that won't invest but promised the sun moon and stars yet they want the council to build our new stadium, finally after all these years a takeover looks real and will possibly happen and then negativity comes from fans that have had experience from a takeover that did not go too well come on and give us there thoughts, we don't mean to be rude it's just we have all been longing for this for sometime and maybe we are just afraid deep down that this could be a mistake and just don't want to hear it . It's just down to fear and excitement.

{Ed025's Note - i hear you stef, but being rude is an excuse mate not a reason, dont get me wrong it was not abusive but we are nice guys here lets keep it that way..

10 Feb 2016 21:23:58
Thanks for the post charmed and I totally get what your saying about villas situation I feel for u mate. I don't think the fact that there American is the problem football is a business now mate and new owners that ain't sheiks or Russian gangsters are businessmen and youv got to hope a successful team is high on his agenda. For any negative comments youv received on here I don't think there is any malice In it at all I think I speak for a lot of evertonions when I say I'm sick of being average, sick
Of being the underdog. So I'm willing to take the risk and if it goes tits up so be it. But if it goes well and we get the stadium sorted ect that could be the base to remain a big force in domestic and European football for many years to come.

10 Feb 2016 22:02:46
Wow bit harsh on the kid there he's just giving his own experience with a yank owner can't see what he done there

Make no mistake villa are a big club and it must cripple there fans seeing what's going on there heaven forbid if we are ever in that position would any of us still have the graciousness to warn the next club that's changing ownership got to say bit disappointed reading some of that there think it's been said but we are better than this lads.

10 Feb 2016 23:17:59
Charmed, there are many different circumstances for the clubs you mentioned. Man U and our neighbours have high profiles around the globe so money was there to be made by taking them clubs on. With respect, our two clubs do not have that profile so taking either of us on is a bit different. I do hear what you are saying though but, if these Americans take us over, we will just have to see where it leads us. The very least we will do is support them until they give us an indication that they are here to asset strip. Maybe these will be the ones to buck the trend you speak of, we will have to wait and see mate, we just can't write them off as money grabbers due to other people of the same nationality doing so to other clubs.

{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point spud..

10 Feb 2016 09:05:16
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10 Feb 2016 15:33:26
Don't disagree with that just tend to put more emphasis on us kicking on based on the prospective incoming investment from new ownership, rather than RM's acumen. Certainly their (the American's) CV (unlike Roberto's) bears a long list of mediocre businesses they have turned into successful one's.