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20 Sep 2018 22:54:29
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18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!

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18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.

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18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.

{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}

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18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.

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18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}

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18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.

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18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.

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19 Sep 2018 17:13:37
I’m probably late to the party on this but if the penalty is a point deduction then what is the maximum number of points that can be deducted?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest CT..

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19 Sep 2018 17:50:41
Thanks Ed. Sorry I realize I posted this on the wrong thread.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

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19 Sep 2018 18:05:53
Again I may be wrong but if memory serves me right didn't Luton get docked 30 pts for something along these lines many years ago.

{Ed025's Note - dont say that james...i was thinking 2 or 3..

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19 Sep 2018 20:09:23
It was bugging me so had a little look into It they were docked 30 pts but 20 were for insolvency problems
That was added to 10 points they were docked for illegal payments to agents so hopefully worst case 10 pts.

{Ed025's Note - still far too much james, it would be hard to recover from a 10pt deficit mate and the pressure of being rock bottom hard to overcome....slap on the wrist im hoping for..

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19 Sep 2018 21:25:04
Same here ed but I can't help but fear the worst at some point they will make an example of someone and with the previous we have and the other ongoing issues I feel we could be the example I just wish that it wasn't going to drag onto the new year and I hope it's given the club the jolt it needs to get things in order and start to do things the correct way.

{Ed025's Note - lets just hope they give us a hefty fine and warn us about our future conduct james, im sure our legal team can bribe the panel as it wont be the first time a brown envelope has passed their way mate.. :)

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19 Sep 2018 22:54:06
Well we were also the honorary (and one of very few) recipients of the retroactive diving ban. So I’m sure we can expect something great.

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17 Sep 2018 22:37:17
So what's changed? . since Moyes left what has actually changed? . other than shelling out over the odds for average players and promises of success from a billionaire investor nothing has changed.
Same old story. injuries, bad luck, poor decisions are the same excuses being used from Martinez and before long Silva too.

How can an unproven manager who jumps ship more often than Uncle Albert be the answer?
Yet again we have the promise and all die hard fans are sucked into the "plan". what we actually have is 6 points from what should be 15 with probably the easiest start to a season any manager could hope for never mind a new one with a statement to make.

Why o why is it always Everton that allow the "bad run" to end be it a team or individual player?
The kids are not good enough, Schneiderlen is not good enough, Tosun is not good enough. I could go on!
Ferguson must go and Silva needs to show very quickly why the owners have put so much faith in him because I for one cannot see it!

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18 Sep 2018 06:44:29
kids aren't good enough yet kenny was one of best on the pitch, morgan not good enough yet we have fell apart every time he hasn't been on the pitch.
you talk about getting sucked into the plan then proceed to waffle about statements to be made? is that not the same thing, suck it up mate and either support or go follow city if you just want an easy ride.

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18 Sep 2018 07:28:09
Jumping on the manager after 5 games is just ridiculous. I'm pretty sure every one of us would want more points than we have. Yes some did get a little carried away with all the optimism but if the alternative is just being miserable and banging on about Moyes then sorry I'll be with optimists.
Things may not work out you may be right, but excuses or not you cannot say injuries/ suspensions have done Silva any favors.
We bought in a lot of players, but unlike other coaches Silva did not try and rush them all into the team, he was patient and it was looking OK. Silly suspensions and a few injuries later and he has been forced to play players who either aren't ready or aren't in form.
Recruitment wise Richarlison, Digne both look class, Bernard showed he may be too and they are all new recruits. There is plenty still to be optimistic about but for some reason you would prefer not to see it!

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18 Sep 2018 09:10:40
Some did the exact same thing last season with Koeman and look at the teams we had to play then in the first 6 games. Will Silva last past Christmas? Injuries will play no more bigger part than it did for Koeman. What will, is the fans ability to stay patient with the management and team until they gel. Silva's change in playing style may give him a little more leeway with some but as you can see some fans are not happy already. For me its fundamentally down to the argument of what type of football are we prepared to watch. Pragmatic football based around defensive solidity that gets results occasional wins mainly draws, but not pretty to watch or a more expansive attacking game that is high risk in the fact that we need to score more than concede. To me it looks like the same situation ManU are currently in the process of trying to figure out with Mourinho. It's said patience is a virtue and I can see why. Patience is what we need but whether Silva get enough, time will tell.

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20 Sep 2018 15:46:35
You can look for blame in so many ways but quite simply defensive errors like a suicidal throw out by Pickford, ball watching centre backs and strikers that could not hit the pre verbial barn door!
Ifs and buts except the outcome and the post motel would have been very different!

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16 Sep 2018 18:25:10
I just spotted Yarmelenlo at Goodison ;)

{Ed033's Note - Pity you didn't spot Andriy Yarmolenko. :)

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17 Sep 2018 10:15:19
pity our defence never, either haha.

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17 Sep 2018 17:01:24
Now that’s funny 👍😂.

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17 Sep 2018 20:34:55
Sorry, in fairness posted before kick-off was hoping it went missing. Hopefully I spot someone playing centre forward for us soon.

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15 Sep 2018 00:03:59
ed002 did we tap him up as they call it or did we speak with his agent and put formal bids in for his services? i no we wer very public with our pursuit but was there anything illegal that u no of? from the outside it seems we followed the rules but i bow to your greater knowledge and u understanding of the rules mate.

{Ed002's Note - Everton made an illegal approach for him after Watford rejected a request to talk with him. Nobody is denying that.}

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15 Sep 2018 11:33:54
thanks mate, poor from the club that.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}

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18 Sep 2018 14:56:52
Nothing will happen other than slap on risk with fine, if they make an example of us by anything bigger like points deduction then they will open a big can of worms as tapping up has gone on for decades, and I would say most transfers are done with some form of tapping up.

{Ed002's Note - This is not the only tapping up investigation ongoing with Everton and the club has previous history.}

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13 Sep 2018 09:58:19
some injury list we have at the minute but i am confident with our current squad we have plenty of cover if you include our 23s who we have available aswell we will still have pickford Kenny zouma holgate dinge, sniderlain Davies siggy Bernard lookman and tosun I would back that team to beat West ham.

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13 Sep 2018 10:39:59
Bernard is injured isn't he?

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13 Sep 2018 14:37:57
play dowell there then if needs be or anthony evans or give hornby a run up top go two up top, we have options in the club.

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11 Sep 2018 12:48:52
Hey Ed 025 further reading of Mr Moshiri acquiring half of Bill Kenrights shares of 18% and the rest from Abercomby it goes on to say because of this Mr Moshiri will be able to accelerate our move to Bramley Moore, what's your take on this mate.

{Ed025's Note - i would like to think so GB but a lot of these stories are just guesses mate, i can see the logic in it but as far as knowing goes im in the dark on this one..

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11 Sep 2018 11:50:38
Just been reading, Mr Moshiri has increased his share in Everton up to 68% with the option to raise further to77%, by July 2019.

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10 Sep 2018 18:56:59
Seamus out injured, hope its not bad.

{Ed025's Note - we seem to have a lot out at the moment GB..

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10 Sep 2018 19:14:42
We do that mate.

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10 Sep 2018 21:01:03
Coleman has been quiet for the last couple of games. Maybe we can see how Kenny does under Silva if Coleman has a knock.

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10 Sep 2018 21:49:39
We’ve got good cover in the squad now. A rest might do Coleman good and it’s an opportunity for Kenny to shine.

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11 Sep 2018 02:44:03
Good point mate.

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11 Sep 2018 10:01:08
Could be good it let's us play kenny without putting colemans nose out of joint.

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13 Sep 2018 05:52:27
I'm sorry Blue79 but if Coleman could do with a rest 4 games into the season then he's got more problems than that foot injury.

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04 Sep 2018 11:33:38
First time I've posted a rumour. A friend I have who works for the club has said we are very interested in Josef Martínez. brands sees him as the perfect fit for silva's style and he's the right age.

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04 Sep 2018 21:27:42
linked to him in the summer if i remember rightly.

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04 Sep 2018 23:03:01
Plays in USA I think. Atalanta or some team like that.

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05 Sep 2018 16:18:45
yeah great record for Atlanta but poor everywhere else he has been. Not sure he is the answer but if brands and Marco are happy who are we to disagree. Hopefully just a late bloomer.

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06 Sep 2018 12:13:41
I wouldn't call his record poor considering he was young at the time he was in Italy and Switzerland. His last 2 seasons in the MLS have been much better though.

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06 Sep 2018 15:51:04
37 in 58 in italy isn't a bad record before america. 84 goals in last 105 games ad say he knows how to put the ball past the keeper.

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06 Sep 2018 16:02:13
Sorry everyone my bad. Need to validate information before regurgitating as was completely miss-informed!

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07 Sep 2018 10:11:52
Watched him for Atlanta when Rooney first started over there. Looked lively with good movement/ pace . He stood out enough to only remember him and Rooney from match. Maybe worth a punt.

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07 Sep 2018 10:12:21
don't have to apologise mate, he could be a massive flop but if Marco and marcel fancy him then get him in I say.

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02 Sep 2018 11:11:40
Do we know if Mina is nearing his debut?

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02 Sep 2018 13:09:43
I'm very surprised that most of our last day signings are taking so long to get fit. Hopefully after the international break we will see more of them playing.

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02 Sep 2018 15:21:05
The players yet to play are having a pre season as Silva said a few weeks back. So it’s no surprise that they haven’t featured yet and are also carrying a few injuries that are not likely to delay their debuts past the International break.

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03 Sep 2018 13:55:18
Think mina will be getting game time after international break we could certainly do with his ability in the air at the moment.

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