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25 Aug 2016 18:30:14
According to Italian media we are still in with a shout for gabiadini. hope this one comes off.

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25 Aug 2016 18:34:24
Yes.
Riapre la piste.

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25 Aug 2016 18:43:04
Until someone else gets him. Why are we going in low for these players. I hear arsenal getting perez because will pay in full? Don't get it especially if we have the money?

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25 Aug 2016 15:47:56
Sky now saying Perez to arsenal.

{Ed002's Note - Arsenal has spoiken directly to Deportivo.}

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25 Aug 2016 16:34:21
Apparently a done deal, shame as a good player and will offer something new. Hope we have alternative in mind as the clock is ticking.

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25 Aug 2016 17:39:35
Well we are going up in the world. It used to be teams like Stoke or West Ham who waited to see who we wanted to recruit and now it is Arsenal. Still we will have to wait and see what Parez is like, as ed002 has said "caveat emptor".

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25 Aug 2016 14:26:24
so Koeman has now confirmed we have no interest in Joe Hart, and never have, so let's get behind Stekelenberg, i think he can do a good job for us.

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25 Aug 2016 14:50:43
Agree steklenberg done great so far will be confident with him in goal all season.

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25 Aug 2016 15:13:07
Feel a bit for Joe Hart. Pep has done him over by playing him last night, now he can't play for a Champions League side unless they are happy for him to only play their league matches and not the CL.

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25 Aug 2016 15:16:23
We still need a goalkeeper so who will it be?

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25 Aug 2016 15:33:00
Wouldn't be surprised if we revisit this, city are pricing him out of a move at the moment. That could well change on deadline day if he demands to be played or leave. He won't spend a season on the bench. I think he's have to accept a pay cut to do it though, see what kind of person he is when it comes down to it.

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25 Aug 2016 16:11:10
Ed said a few weeks ago 'don't rule out a move for Begovic'. Chelsea have signed a backup Goalie today, someone called Eduardo. Begovic all day long for me! COYB's.

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25 Aug 2016 17:28:10
Would still go for Hart if the circumstances change. If a Champions league team come in I think he can still play for them as last night was a qualifier.

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25 Aug 2016 18:17:30
Said on sky that he can play CL matches for another team because these were only qualifying stages. either way hw ain't our player so I couldn't care.

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25 Aug 2016 18:43:56
Begovic will sign before deadline day only because man city want a silly amount of money just for a loan but don't rule out Begovic signing on loan first .

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24 Aug 2016 11:36:38
So there are strong rumours we've submitted a £16 million bid for the guy Perez at Deportivo who looks good imo. reports in Italy also saying we're close to sealing a deal for Napolis Gabbiadini at £26 million who also looks good. Ed, do you know if we're looking to sign both these strikers? Or will it be 1 or the other?

{Ed002's Note - Deportivo's Lucas Perez has been performing well this past season and was watched by Arsenal, CSKA Moscow, Liverpool and Valencia. However, the season has been a peak in an otherwise pretty average journeyman career and Deportivo know that his value is at a peak. I suspect the English sides will see sense and will step back although it is known that Steve Walsh Kostas Floris about the player's availability - as he may have done earlier in the Summer when Vardy was expected to move on. Deportivo will be very happy with a sale to England - caveat emptor.

Napoli's Manolo Gabbiadini has attracted firm offers from Schalke, West Ham, Sevilla and Valencia according to the club - but none are acceptable. Southampton, Everton, Swansea, Bologne, Wolfsburg, Eintracht Frankfurt, Crystal Palace and Spurs have all expressed an interest but have not approached Napoli with an offer. Napoli are keen to resolve his future but that might well depend on the future of others at the club and a player they are talking about trying to bring in. And having lost out on Jese they may look to a new contract with Gabbiadini.}}

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24 Aug 2016 15:45:45
So let the buyer beware then Ed.

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24 Aug 2016 21:49:11
Daily mail reporting arsenal are rival us for Perez and they have submitted 16.9 mil for him don't know if this is true.

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24 Aug 2016 23:39:09
If Arsenal are really in for him then they can offer Champions League and living in London - both of which are surely big attractions for European players.

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25 Aug 2016 00:36:31
He signed for deportivo 1.3m a year ago is that right? At least we can expect the club to be for it great business for them.

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25 Aug 2016 07:35:13
Instead of paying overy the odds for an average journeyman as Ed002 states how about going in for Jay Rodriguez from Saints who is apparently available after a nightmare injury. He is apparently available on loan so would only command a minimal loan fee and has Premier League experience. If it's true Arsenal are rivalling us for Perez then we will get him because Arsenal have the worst negotiating team when it comes to transfers just look at Mustafi deal 😂 but in all seriousness I think Rodriguez has got to be worth a punt.

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25 Aug 2016 09:22:41
I like him too blue but think his injury record speaks for itself.

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25 Aug 2016 10:28:09
I wouldn't touch Rodriguez with a barge pole. is too much of a sicknote.

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25 Aug 2016 14:08:03
As was Louis Saha but we got something out of him. Alls I'm saying is rather than pay near on 20 million for a 1 season wonder who has no experience of our league, take a punt on a proven goalscorer at this level who before his serious injury was not a sicknote. Would you rather gamble £16.5m on a player who may not hack it (think Niasse) or gamble on a proven goalscorer who has had a tough run past couple of seasons. I know which I would gamble on.

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25 Aug 2016 14:24:01
There is a few problems with signing him 1st he is at Southampton they won't do us any favours 2nd he has had a bad injury 3rd and lastly he just not that good we need s striker that will get you 20 goals a season if not more and not s player that will get us 10.

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25 Aug 2016 15:33:10
Has the lad actually played many games in the prem Bluegray? You say he has experience in the prem but I haven't seen much of him in this league as he has suffered too many serious injuries over the last few years. Agree he is a decent player but we have a couple of players in the squad already who spend too much time on the treatment table.

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25 Aug 2016 15:54:20
54 games with 21 goals scored. That was 2012-14 before he suffered his knee injury. I feel he can play up top with Rom as he is a player who can work the channels is good at holding the ball up and can score goals. Yes he has missed the last 1 and half seasons through injury, but realistically who else is there out there that is available that we can attract? I've got to trust Ed002 assessment of Perez as I haven't seen him myself and that assessment is he had one good season last year in an otherwise average journeyman career. Sounds like a Darren Benthe sort of striker then.

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25 Aug 2016 17:05:39
Just looked up his stats on wikipedia, it is 21 goals in 80 premier league appearances. Think I'd rather look elsewhere tbh.

{Ed025's Note - i have been speaking with ED002 spud and he reckons we will have dodged a bullet if he goes to arsenal..

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25 Aug 2016 19:17:57
Them stats were for Jay Rodriguez ed25, in reply to bluegray. I did see ed002's comments regarding Perez though and will take his word on the type of player he may be. Never seen him in action so can't comment myself.

{Ed025's Note - oh ok mate..

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24 Aug 2016 10:41:43
Papers reporting efc are in 'advance talks' for cuco Martina and the daily mail are repoeting efc have submitted a 16m bid for lucas perez. No sure on Martina but perez looks boss. Ikwt.

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24 Aug 2016 11:50:16
Efcfanatic think Lucas Perez would be great sigining for us he scores goals in a competitive league and someone who will put pressure on ROM to perform which he has never had here as for cuco not to sure about but will go with ronnie judgement as all signing so for have been quality additions to squad.

{Ed002's Note - It is to do with Walsh and not Koeman.}

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24 Aug 2016 13:29:05
Ed002: please clarify what RK and SW each bring to the transfer decision-making process at Everton. Does RK specify what type of player he wants OR does he just get given what SW chooses and told to get on with it?

{Ed002's Note - Neither - it really doesn't work like that Sid.}

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24 Aug 2016 15:02:28
Ed002: so how does it work? I think I'm a reasonable poster who understands a few things about football, but I'd like to be better-informed about how transfers "work" when a DoF and a manager/ coach (and maybe others) are all apparently involved - and you're the man who seems to be most knowledgeable. Pretty please :-)

{Ed002's Note - It varies club to club and it is based on discussions about what the best options are, what the club wants to spend etc..}

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24 Aug 2016 15:46:05
Ed002; thanks for that - your replies are much appreciated.

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24 Aug 2016 03:45:31
ed. Is kone from sunderland, now dead in the water, or do you think the club could make it happen.
when one of our players wants out, they always seem able to force the issue, under contract or not.

{Ed025's Note - thats not strictly true JCW lukaku now and stones last year were told they had to stay, on kone it does look like he will stay at sunderland but dont rule out a last minute deal mate..

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24 Aug 2016 07:20:15
Could just be Moyes playing the game, states he is going nowhere while he frantically searches for signings then let's him go
Think back to Lescott, Moyes tried keeping him, he wanted to go and only played at 50% and was then let go to Man City with Kone and his sudden bad back he could well be off.
But then I could have it completely wrong.

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24 Aug 2016 08:01:00
True Southern Toffee, but do we want that type of attitude at our club? If he's refusing to play until he gets his move, that's a bit worrying to me.

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24 Aug 2016 08:39:49
Sunderland are as much to blame. If they offered him the contract they promised to in the first place he more than likely would not of looked for a move.

Quality addition imho. Think he would be happy here. I do feel for Sunderland supporters but Moyes is obviously playing the game imo. He would be taking a chance holding on to him after the transfer window and risk getting half the price he would get now if things continue in a soar note with the player.

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24 Aug 2016 09:28:46
Nbtb, I originally thought that, but haven't they just offered him that contract and he turned it down?

Saying that, we don't really know what's gone on so if we do get him, I'll reserve judgment and, like everyone, give him my support.

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24 Aug 2016 09:43:17
Moyes wants Jagielka in the deal? and that's the hold up?

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24 Aug 2016 11:09:42
I think kone will move at the last Minit . Moyes will be looking for replacements now. i think Moyes learnt his lesson with the lescot situation at Everton.

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24 Aug 2016 11:19:30
Yes copper but its the way they went about it. Thought they were going to wait until September 1st. Then offered him a contract. Its all very confusing really.

Stig you could be right with the hold up. Jags or McCarthy even may be wanted by Sunderland.

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24 Aug 2016 13:35:44
Moyes's comments about relegation and not attracting players are a double-edged sword.
He might be goading the club into spending big to preserve their Premier League place.
On the other hand - strange though it might seem - the club might cut spending in order to prepare for relegation and loss of telly money, etc.
Plus there's the usual Moyes "knife to a gunfight" excuses as to why his team don't always do well.

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24 Aug 2016 17:03:30
The problem with Kones proposed new contract from Sunderland was that it was proposed by the CEO who has now left the club along with big sam. This meant the new deal went out the door with the old and when the new came in they were in the process of squad assessment thus his contract offer was pushed to the fringes for a while which Kone took exception to.

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24 Aug 2016 17:45:07
Yep exactly FTM! So I can't see Kone doing much wrong. Yes there is argument for both sides. The terms have changed from the arrangement he had made when joining club. Does that make him unreasonable to look for a move? It works both ways imho.

I don't think he's being unreasonable but I bet there are plenty of Sunderland fans who think he is.

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23 Aug 2016 21:01:32
at Everton are in advanced talks to take 26-year-old Cuco Martina, could be confusion today matinez and martina!

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23 Aug 2016 22:03:57
Didn't think rk could go back to Southampton for players?

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23 Aug 2016 22:18:50
Holgate has looked great at right back but I think getting someone like Martina in could allow him to focus on becoming a CB - and if Koeman thinks he good enough to go back for then he could be the solid backup to Coleman we've been needing.

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23 Aug 2016 22:23:58
No that wasn't in the contract we can go back for players but it'll cost a fortune to get them.

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23 Aug 2016 22:59:25
Only the ones that can't get a game by the looks of it 🙈.

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24 Aug 2016 03:02:40
Martina's awful :S Scored a screamer vs Arsenal tho.

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24 Aug 2016 09:40:20
I didn't see him enough to really know how good he is, jus thawing faith that if Koeman thinks he's good enough to sign for a second time, then hopefully there is something there. The goal was incredible but was an anomaly with no baring on my opinion of him.

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23 Aug 2016 15:26:43
BBC Football now reporting our interest in Martinez, sounds as if this has legs?

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23 Aug 2016 16:23:31
Roberto?

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23 Aug 2016 16:26:53
PLEASE say PEREZ instead. lol.

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23 Aug 2016 16:32:19
Just as long as he's not a relative of brown showes!

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23 Aug 2016 16:51:43
Take it easy! Bobbys Building Belgium! Er something like that!

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23 Aug 2016 20:57:32
He means Lucas Perez Martinez, don't worry haha.

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23 Aug 2016 12:46:48
Ledson told he can leave as Oxford and Portsmouth interested. Always thought he looked a good player, just a bit lightweight for centre midfield. It's just another illustration of how brutal Koeman is, which realistically can only be a good thing moving forward. No more 'phenomenals' here.

Also, on a side note, we are being linked with with Munir from Barcelona.

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23 Aug 2016 13:09:07
Ive away rated ledson, and believe he was the next big thing until Davies came along. i'd of sent him out for a two year loan if that's possible.

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23 Aug 2016 13:09:19
Would be a huge disappointment if he left now. Don't understand how you can possibly dismiss a player like him when he's only 19 (and achieved a surprising amount) and plays in a position that we need bodies for. Sure, he could be another Jose Baxter or George Green, but he could also be another Mustafi.

Never understand why we don't just keep hold of them until they're around 21, give them some game time in league matches and then make a more educated decision as opposed to just getting rid of another player we were told to get our hopes up for for no apparent reason.

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23 Aug 2016 14:20:45
Wow Ander you are a permanent ray of sunshine.

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23 Aug 2016 14:26:29
Because if we do what Ander says then we stop the next generation getting game time.
Tom Davies has flown past him in the pecking order. let's trust RK eh.

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23 Aug 2016 18:58:02
Think I may actually agree with Ander partly. Obviously you play on talent and not age. I think what he's saying is keep most, who potentially have something, until 21 ish and attempt to bleed them in to some sort of first team action until we decide whether they are good enough or not, then if not then bin them. Of course, if a Tom Davies comes along who is younger and better than the next, then he comes ahead. Isn't that normal football? Talent over age?

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23 Aug 2016 20:47:23
So I've been told, Parky. To be honest, I'm not always this negative, it's just a couple of years of Martinez has broken me. Hopefully Koeman will help me learn to love again.

Exactly Kingo. I'm obviously not saying keep every player that comes through the ranks, but I feel we are too brutal when it comes to getting rid young players. As I said, I feel 21-22 is around the age you can finally dismiss someone, but before that age I think it's way too early to really know if they'll make it especially when they're not given a chance.

That said, I did forget about Tom Davies and while I don't think Ledson being here would hinder him as such, I can understand why maybe it's not the end of the world to let him go.

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23 Aug 2016 21:37:35
It isn't the end of the world as we've all said Tom Davies is a better player. I do think clubs often give up on players too early, but maybe as Ledson wasn't going to get a look in and wasn't required, the club is letting him go for the good of his own career and considering him as well. We will know that the club rates him if they put in a buy back clause.

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23 Aug 2016 22:21:15
Yeah, I would definitely put a buy back/ sell on clause, just in case, but if they do that it does beg the question of why not just loan him out again? They've shown with Garbutt and McAleny that they have no problem with holding onto players who don't seem to be getting a chance.

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22 Aug 2016 23:00:09
Everton have tonight reportedly pulled out of the race to sign goalkeeper Joe Hart. efc deemed his £7million a year wages as too high and with the excellent form of Stekelberg thus far, Hart is no longer on Koemans wishlist. Other reports from France tonight indicate that Lyon winger Rachid Ghezzal has informed Everton of his desire to stay in France as he wants to be playing regular European football - so won't be joking Everton either. not a particularly good day on the transfer front then, but hopefully some good news soon elsewhere.

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23 Aug 2016 06:39:35
I think the £7million was just the loan fee Soli, which if true is a huge fee just t loan a player. Not surprised that got knocked back.

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23 Aug 2016 07:16:38
Joe Hart's situation will change dramatically the closer we get to the 1st Sept, would not be surprised if he came in the last minutes of the window.

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23 Aug 2016 10:03:27
His reported wages are £135k so that is £7m a year plus whatever loan fee
I agree Murf Hart's situation will change if he doesn't get a move and a move to a club which keeps him near the top, he won't want this to cost him his England number 1 jersey!

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23 Aug 2016 10:13:00
The 7m included what he is paid per week, 135k apparently, Toffee ace. Bit steep for a year, wouldn't be worth loaning if we still had to pay around 20m to sign permanently. Not too sure this is dead in the water just yet though, doesn't seem to be many offers on the table if the press are to be believed. As Murf says, this will possibly drag on until the window is closed.

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23 Aug 2016 11:40:35
That is too much for a goal keeper especially for one who is not wanted at his club. Its reported he is on £120k per week and his contract expires 2018-2019 season. Not a bad wage for getting splinters.

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23 Aug 2016 13:53:00
My feeling is it's a tactic by city to make sure any transfer is a permanent one rather than a loan I think they know they are asking way too much, It's the same as we did with Lukaku slap 75 mil asking price hoping no one wants to pay it and we get what we want, we keep Lukaku. City are probably hoping we come back with a purchase offer instead of a loan offer.

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23 Aug 2016 16:29:31
It's even better if Everton go for Butland, then Stoke go for Hart.

{Ed002's Note - Not going to happen.}

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